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Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: SPWC] #185989
01/07/09 05:24 AM
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Silly question time....

Do you have much fuel in the tank???


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Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: fastnos] #185990
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Do you have much fuel in the tank


At least 6 gallons

Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: SPWC] #185991
01/07/09 10:51 AM
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I dunno how other members feel but when you get the new fuel sending unit in there (as yours seems to be missing a wire) I'd remove the sock from the feed tube and put an external fuel filter. It's a PITA to get inadequate fuel delivery and having to drop the tank every time. Let the dirt roll through and catch it externally. I have 1 filter on the subframe and another just before the carb.


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Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: fastnos] #185992
01/07/09 11:41 AM
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Silly question time....

Do you have much fuel in the tank???





I was gonna make a comment about that too, the original post said he shook the tank and didn't hear anything and i thought to myself geez that would be my luck, spend hour's of troublshooting and find out the tank's empty

Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: MNobody] #185993
01/07/09 12:59 PM
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Actually what I shook was the little brass float that I replaced. Sometimes by looking at them you cant tell they have a pinhole leak,so if you shake them next to your ear you may hear some liquid sloshing around. In this case I didnt,but replaced the float anyway.

Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: fastnos] #185994
01/07/09 01:13 PM
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spwc I was wondering why I didn't hear any cussing about having to drain the tank, then when you said it's got 6 gallons in it, enough to give a reading but not enough to spill out.


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Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: SPWC] #185995
01/07/09 02:15 PM
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Is the grounding strap that clips to the fuel line and the outlet line of the fuel sender present? Grounding the tank may not work-the sender gasket will probably electrically isolate the sender from the tank. The factory strap usually falls off after time. Year One (among others) sell the strap-look for PN FD58862.


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Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: Hrtbkr] #185996
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The strap is present.Its a longer one than the one Yearone sells. I cleaned both the outlet of the fuel sender and the inlet of the fuel line where the strap makes contact in order to provide a better ground .

Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: SPWC] #185997
01/07/09 07:12 PM
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I dont like those straps anyways, cheaply made these days. You install it on the tube and if you happen to be like this gentleman here removing it and checking things, the tongs snap and its junk. Why not just get a 18" length of solid copper wire, 14 gauge, attach a small hose clamp to it on the tube of the unit and solder an eyelot terminal on the other side of the cable up by where the shock mount is and screw it into the subframe. Thats how my 69 is hooked up.


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Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: 70dart360] #185998
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That wire goes from the windings of the sending unit to the post. Without it theres no way it could possibly work.


When you take it back out you may find that it has a strap making the con. between the reostat and the terminal on the flange instead of a wire. I just went to the shop and looked at one I took out of a 69 B Body.

Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: pushbutton] #185999
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You Temp gage is working correctly. When you turn the car off the heat goes up, no air/water movement. Start the engine up and it heat come down, all good.

Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: 474218] #186000
01/08/09 12:07 PM
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I have fixed bad sending units on my 64 Polara and 65 Dart. The Polara's unit had a small sweep arm that rides across the rheostat broken off and I soldered it back on 3 years ago...it's been fine ever since. The Dart's was a little different and I had to drill a tiny hole through the strap mount, then used a shortened finish nail to reattach it. I was planning on just replacing them, but since I was able to repair them I saw no need. They may fail again some day, but for now that's $100 I could spend on other parts. Lucky for me, the Polara's unit sits high in the tank and if there's only a half tank of gas you can remove the unit without draining the tank!


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Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: SPWC] #186001
01/08/09 01:18 PM
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HOLD ON!!!

Let me ask a REALLY dumb Question. Enclosed I have a pic of a sending unit from Autozone from thier online catalog.It shows a wire(you see it?)

I got to looking at the sending unit I pulled out and reinstalled and there was no wire,and I remember thinking to myself "how does this thing register?" I also saw 2 places with male electrical spades thinking that maybe an "optional" wire went to these.

Guess what im asking is...My sending unit doesnt have the wire like what is pictured,is this normal,or do I need to install that wire?




do you have an original sending unit or an aftermarket unit ? original factory units do not have a wire , they use flat metal as a wire inside ... if i remember correctly ...

then there is this ...

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The strap is present.Its a longer one than the one Yearone sells. I cleaned both the outlet of the fuel sender and the inlet of the fuel line where the strap makes contact in order to provide a better ground .




did you check to make sure that your fuel line as actually making good contact to ground ? if it's not the fuel guage will not work , it would be the same as if you didn't have the strap

Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: pushbutton] #186002
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That wire goes from the windings of the sending unit to the post. Without it theres no way it could possibly work.


When you take it back out you may find that it has a strap making the con. between the reostat and the terminal on the flange instead of a wire. I just went to the shop and looked at one I took out of a 69 B Body.



Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: pushbutton] #186003
01/08/09 10:27 PM
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That wire goes from the windings of the sending unit to the post. Without it theres no way it could possibly work.


When you take it back out you may find that it has a strap making the con. between the reostat and the terminal on the flange instead of a wire. I just went to the shop and looked at one I took out of a 69 B Body.







I understand what your trying to imply, but I think he's smart enough to see if the straps gone too. I was talking about the connection in general, think the strap is factory, wire is aftermarket. Maybe the later came with a wire, I can remember. Sorry if I confused ya.


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Re: Went through all that for Nothing...Now What? [Re: 70dart360] #186004
01/08/09 10:29 PM
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maybe its a wireless sending unit???

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