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Early A trans crossmember #185943 01/06/09 07:46 PM 01/06/09 07:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az Jambbii OP mopar
Jambbii OP mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az	64 Dart 273/904. I am swapping in a 360/727. Is the trans crossmember the same for both transmissions? Thanks, Josh 70 Challenger 1960 Town Wagon P Pump 24v cummins project 06 Mega 3500 Drw 2wd 12 Durango R/T 18 Power Wagon 67 A100

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: Jambbii] #185944 01/06/09 07:48 PM 01/06/09 07:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,176 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,176 Park Forest, IL	Yep. You will have to clearance the tunnel a little to get the 727 in though. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: slantzilla] #185945 01/06/09 07:54 PM 01/06/09 07:54 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,146 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,146 Mesa, Arizona	Quote: Yep. You will have to clearance the tunnel a little to get the 727 in though. You'll also have to notch the passenger side of the crossmember for the exhaust to clear. This is the TTI modified crossmember. 4928208-Crossmember.jpg (88 downloads)

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: dart4forte] #185946 01/06/09 08:58 PM 01/06/09 08:58 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	there's a broad range of tolerances there, a few 727's will clear w no banging, most will clear with flattening or removing the pinchweld, a few need the tunnel hammered for clearance in addition to the pinchweld removed. BEST is to mock one up in your particular vehicle & see what you have, a person sure doesn't need to be hammering if they dont have to. Trim the crossmember on the one side w a whizzer to get it exact then remove it & weld some flat pieces across the gap you have created. 727 bolts in the same. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: RapidRobert] #185947 01/07/09 02:17 PM 01/07/09 02:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az Jambbii OP mopar
Jambbii OP mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az	I thought I was going crazy. Put the trans in the other day (or I was trying to) and I couldn't get it all the way up with a poly bushing installed. This is the first ealy A body I have every played with and the seems to be little issues around every corner it seems. Thanks, Josh 70 Challenger 1960 Town Wagon P Pump 24v cummins project 06 Mega 3500 Drw 2wd 12 Durango R/T 18 Power Wagon 67 A100

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: Jambbii] #185948 01/07/09 02:43 PM 01/07/09 02:43 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee R rbstroker super stock
rbstroker super stock R Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee	After disappointing results on my 273, I am seriously considering the 360 swap into my 1965 early A. I want to keep my cable operated 904 however. What oil pan did you have to use for your installation? Any other major problems?

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: rbstroker] #185949 01/07/09 03:29 PM 01/07/09 03:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: What oil pan did you have to use for your installation? Any other major problems? center sump pass car 360 pan fits perfect. The aftermarket flex plate(I forget the #) takes care of the 360 to neutral balanced 904 issue. Add an ear to one of your 273 mts. I've use a 273 water pump on the 360 timing cover to keep my orig rad. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: Jambbii] #185950 01/07/09 03:47 PM 01/07/09 03:47 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: This is the first ealy A body I have every played with and the seems to be little issues around every corner it seems. Thanks, Josh Josh when you are done you'll be glad because they are sooo lightweight. Post your Q's. If you are going SB use a 904 especially since in your case you do not have enough tunnel clearance without modifying it & a 904 will hold up fine(just ask TBF ) live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: RapidRobert] #185951 01/07/09 05:28 PM 01/07/09 05:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az Jambbii OP mopar
Jambbii OP mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az	I am actually building the car for a friend. 360 magnum, 11-1 comp. Eddy heads , big comp cam and I want to use the 727 because its already built ( my old one out of the challenger) I am using a standard 360 car oil pan and it looks to clear fine with Schumacher poly engine mounts. The TTI headers make everything a huge pain in the butt to work on. I figured I could put the trans in with the headers on...Nope and then come to find out a 727 doesn't clear now Does anyone have pics of the clearancing they have done to make these fit? Josh 70 Challenger 1960 Town Wagon P Pump 24v cummins project 06 Mega 3500 Drw 2wd 12 Durango R/T 18 Power Wagon 67 A100

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: RapidRobert] #185952 01/07/09 05:30 PM 01/07/09 05:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az Jambbii OP mopar
Jambbii OP mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az	We had a custom radiator built, looks the same but out of aluminum! Quote: Quote: This is the first ealy A body I have every played with and the seems to be little issues around every corner it seems. Thanks, Josh Josh when you are done you'll be glad because they are sooo lightweight. Post your Q's. If you are going SB use a 904 especially since in your case you do not have enough tunnel clearance without modifying it & a 904 will hold up fine(just ask TBF ) 70 Challenger 1960 Town Wagon P Pump 24v cummins project 06 Mega 3500 Drw 2wd 12 Durango R/T 18 Power Wagon 67 A100

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: Jambbii] #185953 01/07/09 05:45 PM 01/07/09 05:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa R roadrunnerreds mopar
roadrunnerreds mopar R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa	I put together a 65 dodge dart 2 door sedan.i myself wanted an a body but wanted something different.i put together 360 and 904. i could not imagine trying to put a 727 in the car as tight as a 904 is in there.i got the tti headers and the special starter and the starter did not fit.I used a regular mini starter on it.It is a close fit when it comes to some of the header tubes and i wish i had put fittings in the side of the block instead of using the 90 degree oil filter adapter and used a oil filter relocation kit.dartman366 did the fittings in the side of his block for a oil filter relocation kit. I did modifiey my cross member myself for the tti headers.Brad 4930477-IMG_1089.JPG (116 downloads)

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: roadrunnerreds] #185954 01/07/09 05:48 PM 01/07/09 05:48 PM
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roadrunnerreds mopar R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa	another pic 4930481-IMG_1090.JPG (124 downloads)

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: roadrunnerreds] #185955 01/07/09 05:50 PM 01/07/09 05:50 PM
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roadrunnerreds mopar R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa	pic 3 4930489-IMG_1088.JPG (115 downloads)

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: dart4forte] #185956 01/07/09 06:08 PM 01/07/09 06:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,146 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,146 Mesa, Arizona	Quote: Quote: Yep. You will have to clearance the tunnel a little to get the 727 in though. You'll also have to notch the passenger side of the crossmember for the exhaust to clear. This is the TTI modified crossmember. Something I forgot to mention is that if you use Schumacker polygraphite motor mounts you will raise the engine close to 1/8th of an inch. The poly bisquets do not settle or squish like the rubber. This will affect the headers collectors in that the bottoms of the collectors will be in line with the crossmember.

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: roadrunnerreds] #185957 01/07/09 06:14 PM 01/07/09 06:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az Jambbii OP mopar
Jambbii OP mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az	Does this look like the right crossmember and mount? 4930562-000_0971.jpg (96 downloads) 70 Challenger 1960 Town Wagon P Pump 24v cummins project 06 Mega 3500 Drw 2wd 12 Durango R/T 18 Power Wagon 67 A100

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: Jambbii] #185958 01/07/09 06:15 PM 01/07/09 06:15 PM
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Jambbii OP mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az	another 4930565-000_0972.jpg (105 downloads) 70 Challenger 1960 Town Wagon P Pump 24v cummins project 06 Mega 3500 Drw 2wd 12 Durango R/T 18 Power Wagon 67 A100

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: Jambbii] #185959 01/07/09 06:34 PM 01/07/09 06:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Does this look like the right crossmember and mount? Wrong crossmember

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: RapidRobert] #185960 01/07/09 06:44 PM 01/07/09 06:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az Jambbii OP mopar
Jambbii OP mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 554 Mesa , Az	Quote: Quote: Does this look like the right crossmember and mount? Wrong crossmember I figured something was wrong! Anyone have pics of the right one and what does this look like it was out of/ Thanks, Josh 70 Challenger 1960 Town Wagon P Pump 24v cummins project 06 Mega 3500 Drw 2wd 12 Durango R/T 18 Power Wagon 67 A100

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: Jambbii] #185961 01/07/09 07:07 PM 01/07/09 07:07 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee R rbstroker super stock
rbstroker super stock R Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee	Looks like an early "B" body to me. This is the land of the free because of the brave

Re: Early A trans crossmember [Re: rbstroker] #185962 01/07/09 07:26 PM 01/07/09 07:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa R roadrunnerreds mopar
roadrunnerreds mopar R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa	here is one that is not modified. Brad 4930735-IMG_1094.JPG (106 downloads)

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