anyone have the paint code for the organisol black in ppg enamel???

DDL-9355

If you want the 88% correct textured finish you must use DDL9355 Lacquer. 88% correct because the texture additive changed slightly from the orig. If you want the catalyzed, semi-gloss, smooth sheen finish enamel it's DCC9355...

Lacquer it is then, thanks.

Organisol Black Revised 01-2009

You must lay the paint down wet or the texture will stand up instead of lay down and you will have an extremely rough finish that attracts everything.

Use the slowest thinner you can find and add some retarder as well if it is above 80 degrees. If possible use over black primer.


Allow surfaces to dry for several weeks before painting cover coats. This is important.

Put 2 light cover coats of semi gloss black over grey primer, allow to dry at least 24 hrs or more before organisoling

Use a gun with a big tip 1.4mm or larger

Cross coat the large area surfaces in 3 directions –eliminates streaking of texture diag first, short length, long length with overlapping passes. It must go on wet.

Test spray before committing to car. Practice a little. Use SLOW thinner !!!! Lay on WET!
Do not lay on dry, paint horizontal.

Patience!!!!! Thin per instructions min 150%

After getting full coverage of texture typically 4 coats thin each progressive coat 25% Use your judgment Think about 6 coats.

Allow each coat to dry for at least 30 min.
Allow each coat to dry for at least 30 min.

Texture must cover surface completely-there should be no gaps in the texture. The purpose of laying it on cross coating & wet is to get the texture to lay down. I am no expert, but I do paint and I have done my fair share of wresting with this paint.

Edge it in with a touch up gun,

Use fine line tape on all paint edge breaks

Do the bottom side of the hood first-part of your practice

Paint All other surfaces at the same time as the top side of the hood.

Make sure grille is out of the car

Across the tops of the fender & across the front header panel be sure to add 1 extra coat of Organisol to resist the long term wear of the paint from stones etc..

Organisol Black Revised 01-2009


Ummm what expert is this from????

The original tech article was written by me for the SIAC All American Racer magazine in about 1985. It has been revised a few times now as the knowledge base grows. Were you even born yet in 1985 there Mr quik 77???

I don't see where any one is called an expert...
I could keep the what has been learned to myself, but instead I share it so people can paint expensive paint properly. If you have nothing positive to contribute please go away.

Good post, just wanted to know the author, thanks for being a dick about it.

Sorry if it was taken wrong.....Tom is not a household name.....So many experts in the field, just ask them,...so it wasnt a personal dig.

Just wondered where the "two week" paint job idea came from....thats all.

Tom has been doing this stuff for quite a while and I for one value his experience and willingness to share what he has learned.

Its very simple... If you don't want to do it the way Tom has suggested.. don't do it that way.... Belive me, Tom won't care what you do.

Tom has outlined a method that has worked well for him. Take it as that.

Thanks for the great information.

Well im sorry im not the nut swinging type, poof out of the blue a new way for 2009.

Thank god this isnt the way it was done back in the day or maybe they would of had time to make 50-60 per year....

Sorry but in 85 I was in the military, not working on the two week paint job.....

I said it wasnt a personal dig at the man and here comes the nut swingers....WT-F.



Tom has been doing this stuff for quite a while and I for one value his experience and willingness to share what he has learned.

Its very simple... If you don't want to do it the way Tom has suggested.. don't do it that way.... Belive me, Tom won't care what you do.

Tom has outlined a method that has worked well for him. Take it as that.

Why did chrysler elect to use a textured semi-flat black rather then a non-textured?
I always thought, or perhaps read it somewhere, that it was to "hide" minor imperfections in the fiberglass top surfaces.
If that was true: then wouldn't a "ruffer" more-textured surface be more "correct"?

I sprayed a TA hood years back & must have used 1/2gln of PPG mixture before it came out nice: right texture & no zebra stripes.

Just another source to throw in the mix. I think Frank B has some lacquer mix left , but Roger Gibson has a urethane mix that is right on in my opinion, and is easier to apply than lacquer. Price and customer service both good. Another A-12 owner and I both used it and

We did a year or so ago and it came out quite a bit shinnier than we liked and no texture to it at all.

It had so much gloss to it that we had to dry mist it to try and tone it down and still were not totally pleased with it.

We painted the organisol tonight (db12 and I) used Tom's method only we did not wait a full 30 minutes between coats, but enough to dry to the touch and it looks great! Out of all the times spraying it through the years this by far looks the best! Highly recommend the black base coat as we found out quickly it's very hard to cover after thinning 150%. Thanks again Tom!

Kevin, Ive used SEM Hot Rod black, Its a urethane, it's not bad but no texture and a bit to glossy for my taste.

Autocolorlibrary.com has a textured 30% gloss urethane in there Hot Rod Flatz line.

I was referring to the hot rod black. We've never tried the ppg enamel, just the lacquer.

Tex, you should post a pic of the hood when you get a chance.

Sure will!

heres the ddl formula

Strong black DMA358 794.5
Coarse Poly DMA349 24.4
Texture DMA364 171.1

Adam Thanks But I have a can with that on it with like half a quart left in it and they can not get the swade or what ever to mix some more.
So was looking for the new single stage DCC that he was talking about if it is better than the dupont singke stage hot rod black.

I sprayed a Charger fiberglass hood and set of valve covers with nos organisol DDL9355. Yes I said valve covers.

It took almost a qt of paint using a HVLP spraygun laying down 6 coats to obtain proper coverage. It was put over black epoxy primer. The texture is quite different from the currently available PPG lacquer mix. The pictures do not do the "look" justice.

Tech notes:

I used "retarder" [slows the drying time, adds gloss]

I made 6 passes, thinning as I went-Cross coating

I spent a lot of time setting up the work area.

It was 60 degrees.

Disclaimer: I am not a professional painter nor an expert

One more...
btw real organisol is irridescent...

This is a very nice fiberglass hood by Glastek.
I cut the holes for the turn signals and drilled the hood pin holes...

this what you will see when I am finished

Tom Quad, I like the valve covers you did

Tom,I'm not beeing a smart-a$$,but how long has it been since you have sprayed the organisol ? I'd like to see the hood after 10 years, if you have catalized version, it should be fine, but if it's raw lacquer,I don't think it's such a good idea to lay on so many coats especially wet on wet,I wouldn't touch lacquer with a 10 foot stick,but that's just my opinion

DDL 9355 Organisol is very thin paint before you even thin it the required 125-150% or more. To get enough fill of "texture per square inch" it requires more than several passes...and it does not go on thick even wet so you can make 6 passes or more. You need to put it over a well dried black epoxy primer or semi gloss black lacquer if the primer is not black. Remember the flakes need to lay down in the paint not stand on edge so the paint must go on wet and thin.

I can show you the same exact organisol formula painted by me around 1984 the exact same way as yesterday currently covering the hood & fender tops of my AAR. It now has well over 60,000 miles of wear on it and could use a refresh but still looks good. See April 2004 MCG magazine cover and story.

I'll bet ya didn't know that over time Organisol wears as it ages from washing the car, driving it in the rain [imagine that] or when you wipe it down with a califonia duster. Is that worn effect patina???

It's interesting that it has held up without cracking and splitting the paint or primer under the organisol for so long,I just never like the idea of spraying anything over old or dry lacquer,as it would soften up and possibly shift with so much thinner from organisol sitting on it ,knowing the lacquer is not catalized