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727 T/F THROTTLE LINKAGE ADJUSTMENT??? #184366
01/05/09 07:13 AM
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When I last rebuilt my 727 I fitted a TCI Trans Scat shift kit (came with the rebulid kit). I performed all mods as per the so called 'RACE' criteria. I chose this as I still wanted full automatic shifting for cruising etc, and manual when at the track. Of course this requires the throttle linkage to remain connected and I was just after opinions as to the correct method of adjustment remembering the manifold bracket had been modified for my Victor intake. At the last oportunity, I adjusted the linkages as per the factory workshop manual hoping to correct premature upshift i.e. trans shifts (D range) from 1 in to D all before 15 - 20 MPH and no kickdowm is evident at any speed. Once the transmission rod is adjusted with the 3/16 rod in the bellcrank...do I just keep adjusting the carburettor rod until the corect shift pattern is obtained or is there another way to correctly adjust the linkages? Please help with any opinions....may just have fit my full manual reverse pattern if all else fails!
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Re: 727 T/F THROTTLE LINKAGE ADJUSTMENT??? [Re: moparmacka] #184367
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Service manual specs give you a good starting place. Then fine tune from there.


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Re: 727 T/F THROTTLE LINKAGE ADJUSTMENT??? [Re: moparmacka] #184368
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I've had someone hold the carb wide open while I
was under the car and I held the kick down lever
full rearward and then adjust to that point. Readjust
if its too much throttle pressure(doesnt want to shift out)

Re: 727 T/F THROTTLE LINKAGE ADJUSTMENT??? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #184369
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Quote:

I've had someone hold the carb wide open while I
was under the car and I held the kick down lever
full rearward and then adjust to that point. Readjust
if its too much throttle pressure(doesnt want to shift out)





thats what i do too except I just take the throttle spring off and put it on backwards to hold it wide open so i can do it myself. then I adjust down from there if it shifts too high

Re: 727 T/F THROTTLE LINKAGE ADJUSTMENT??? [Re: moparmacka] #184370
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trans shifts (D range) from 1 in to D all before 15 - 20 MPH and no kickdowm is evident at any speed.




Are you saying the trans shifts directly from 1 to 3 and there is no 2nd gear or that it shifts 1-2-3 quickly? Being in 3rd at 20 mph with light throttle is close to factory spec (depending on axle ratio).

If the trans is shifting direct 1-3 with no 2nd gear there would likely be no kickdown at WOT because 2nd isn't there and there is an internal problem.

If it does shift 1-2-3 quickly and there is no kickdown the linkage needs to be adjusted; lengthen the top rod.


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Re: 727 T/F THROTTLE LINKAGE ADJUSTMENT??? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #184371
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Quote:

I've had someone hold the carb wide open while I
was under the car and I held the kick down lever
full rearward and then adjust to that point. Readjust
if its too much throttle pressure(doesnt want to shift out)





I had to fine tune mine. With the kickdown all the way back, it would kick down nicely but in D 1st and 2nd gear would not upshift on their own even by the time I hit 5500rpm. So then I adjusted backward until I was happy with it. If it's shifting 1-2-3 by ~25mph under light throttle that is normal.

Re: 727 T/F THROTTLE LINKAGE ADJUSTMENT??? [Re: John_Kunkel] #184372
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Yes that right! It shifts 1-2-3 very quickly. And it will do so not just at light throttle but 1/4 to 1/2 also.... Does it make any difference if I adjust the carb rod or trans rod when holding the trans kickdown lever fully back?

Re: 727 T/F THROTTLE LINKAGE ADJUSTMENT??? [Re: moparmacka] #184373
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Like Daytona said, with a shift kit it's possible that the trans won't upshift at WOT with the lever full back; IOW, the trans might need more rpm to upshift than the engine is capable of. Not uncommon.

First, be sure that the carb you are using (if aftermarket) has the correct Mopar throttle lever adapter, if not the linkage ratio will be wrong. Then keep lengthening the top rod until you get kickdown and the light throttle upshifts are to your liking.


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Re: 727 T/F THROTTLE LINKAGE ADJUSTMENT??? [Re: John_Kunkel] #184374
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the longer the linkage the higher the shift points, the standard shift points are 18mph for 1=2 shift and 28mph for the 2=3 shift with light gas pedal pressure,( like you have an egg under your foot) yours may be different because of the shift kit. Check with the manufacturer


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Re: 727 T/F THROTTLE LINKAGE ADJUSTMENT??? [Re: 65dragnet] #184375
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Thanks guys .....all makes sense now!







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