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Pinion snubber with SS springs? #183447 01/04/09 08:02 AM 01/04/09 08:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH torredcuda OP super stock
torredcuda OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH	I am working on a Duster I picked up last spring that has SS springs on it and an adjustable pinion snubber.While talking to a guy at the track and he told me not to use a snubber with the SS springs as it won`t let the springs work as they are supposed to -right or wrong? https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.hunt.750/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Northeast-Mighty-Mopar-Club/365435766974452?ref=aymt_homepage_panel `72 Barracuda 340/4spd `70 road runner 383/auto `73 road runner 400/4spd `76 W100 clubcab

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: torredcuda] #183448 01/04/09 09:19 AM 01/04/09 09:19 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish master
bonefish master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	i wish i could answer that for ya but i thru mine in the trash.

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: bonefish] #183449 01/04/09 09:43 AM 01/04/09 09:43 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks 572_dup2 Back On The Bumper!!
572_dup2 Back On The Bumper!! Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks	I never had any luck with it. Shawn Jennings

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: 572_dup2] #183450 01/04/09 10:14 AM 01/04/09 10:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	the whole purpose of the snubber is to help stop the springs from wrapping. a good set of ss springs shouldn't have as much spring wrap as a stock set of springs. if the snubber is set at the wrong distance it could cause a traction issue. but set up correctly there shouldn't be any problems. lots of old stock racers have used them for years. experiment with it, you don't want it hammering the pad just slightly touching on launch

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: 572_dup2] #183451 01/04/09 10:15 AM 01/04/09 10:15 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH B blownzoom440
blownzoom440 B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH	and my dana 60 has no pad for a snubber so i never used 1 with my springs.

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: torredcuda] #183452 01/04/09 11:52 AM 01/04/09 11:52 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	With the SS springs you can dump the snubber BUT you will need a good adjustable shock to control the lift of the body. Snubbers were used back in the days of poor shocks

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #183453 01/04/09 12:00 PM 01/04/09 12:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: With the SS springs you can dump the snubber BUT you will need a good adjustable shock to control the lift of the body. Snubbers were used back in the days of poor shocks not really but ok , glad to see you are OK I know a stock racer who still runs one and does pretty dang good.. good shocks will help anything.

No Snubber needed [Re: torredcuda] #183454 01/04/09 12:12 PM 01/04/09 12:12 PM
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Saskabusa enthusiast S Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 259 Scatchamatoon	I ran one on my car. I had it touching the floor pan at rest. caused nothing but problems and eventually broke the tail housing. I diched it, copied 572 spring set up and the car launched much better. My advice is to pitch it. Clamping the springs had much more of effect than the snubber ever did. 1974 Roadrunner 1967 Charger

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: Saskabusa] #183455 01/04/09 12:21 PM 01/04/09 12:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: I ran one on my car. I had it touching the floor pan at rest. caused nothing but problems and eventually broke the tail housing. I diched it, copied 572 spring set up and the car launched much better. My advice is to pitch it. thats because it's not supposed to be touching at rest.

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: torredcuda] #183456 01/04/09 02:36 PM 01/04/09 02:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 205 ohio prochamp enthusiast
prochamp enthusiast Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 205 ohio	on my car i use it when i'm on a good hooking track.my 60 fts are consistently .02 quicker.when i race on marginal tracks i take it off and i get a better hook.i use it as a tuning aid not a fix-all.

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: prochamp] #183457 01/04/09 02:47 PM 01/04/09 02:47 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI P prochargedhemi super stock
prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	i use a pinion snubber with ss springs and have had O issues. when still the snubber is about 1/2-3/4 away from the floor. good for 1.48 60' outta my boat. tried back to back test with it on/off and the car would loose about .15 just on the 60' with it off and picked it right back up once i put it back on, everyones combo is different as i know mine def is, but it works so i leave it alone.

Re: No Snubber needed [Re: Saskabusa] #183458 01/04/09 02:54 PM 01/04/09 02:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI D dizuster master
dizuster master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	Quote: I ran one on my car. I had it touching the floor pan at rest. caused nothing but problems and eventually broke the tail housing. I diched it, copied 572 spring set up and the car launched much better. My advice is to pitch it. Clamping the springs had much more of effect than the snubber ever did. I actually had the exact opposite problem. The pinion snubber broke and I didn't know it. The car kept breaking tailshaft housings/loosing bushings/etc... I found the broken snubber, put it back in, and never had another trans problem again. I will admit that the car had a slightly short drive shaft, but basically the snubber prevented the axle from winding up, and pulling the driveshaft out. This was on an 11.80's 340 duster...

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: prochargedhemi] #183459 01/04/09 02:58 PM 01/04/09 02:58 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I'm wondering if you guys that have tried it (with and without) have tried to adjust the shocks to make up for it.... or was it just put it on or take it off

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #183460 01/04/09 04:42 PM 01/04/09 04:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH torredcuda OP super stock
torredcuda OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH	I know it`s there for preventing axle wind up so even with the stiffer SS springs it could help.Sounds like it depends on the track,car, and supsension setup so I`ll probably leave it off to start and use it as an option for dialing in the suspension later. https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.hunt.750/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Northeast-Mighty-Mopar-Club/365435766974452?ref=aymt_homepage_panel `72 Barracuda 340/4spd `70 road runner 383/auto `73 road runner 400/4spd `76 W100 clubcab

Re: Pinion snubber with SS springs? [Re: torredcuda] #183461 01/04/09 05:27 PM 01/04/09 05:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,807 North Dakota Azzkikrcuda top fuel
Azzkikrcuda top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,807 North Dakota	I have tried running with and without the snubber on my car. I always 60ft's better with the snubber on. I have it set 3/4 inch from the floor. I take it off when driving on the street though, so it doesn't beat up the floorpan. The only Carbs I care about are under the hood!

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