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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: fast68plymouth] #18141
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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: fast68plymouth] #18142
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I think fast has touched on the real reason behind muscle street. I have ran muscle street the past two years and really enjoy racing the class because I don't have to go and drop $10,000 a year for a race car. I have spoke to Ben about opening up the rules from last year's rules and I think he has a good vision about what he would like to see. It is definately an entry level class and as it goes along cars will definately get faster because guys will start building cars for the class. The balancing act is to get as many cars out without anyone getting a distinct advantage. As you see at the bottom of Ben's rules page it says rules may be revised for parity. Last year's rules was a fiberglass hood period correct and fiberglass bumpers. This year's rules are bolt on fiberglass with no one piece front ends. This really doesn't change or give anyone a distinct advantage because the car will have to make weight. It will also let a guy jump in with fiberglass bumpers who under last year's rules wasn't legal. The W5 heads should be reviewed and if allowed I would assume they would carry a weight penalty because of the advantage over the other heads.

Ben,

Maybe we can get the administrators to put a sticky on this thread to keep it in front of everyone's eyes. I am in for Rockingham if it happens.

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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: Greg] #18143
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I think the rules look pretty good the way they are. I wouldnt change a thing. If my car is ever back together I would be interested in competing in this class.

Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: AdamR] #18144
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I personally like the stock block rule and think that it would keep Muscle Street an entry level class. I also like allowing W5 and Indy setups in Muscle Street.


For Vegas they are paying out $2,500 I can run one class (MS or Xtreme) or split the purse and run both. The promoter is not really sure what type of cars that we would get in that area. Any thoughts or ideas, the ads are coming out soon so I need to get them an answer. If it goes well they will want to add more for 07. I also thought about a Vegas rules only deal, a Muscle Street power adder combo type class. I will put this together and let you review.


Here are the list of tracks that I'm currently working with for the final race:

Rockingham
Bristol
Milan MI
Mopar Nats
E Town

Right now Rockingham is the most interested and ready to put a deal together. His show is the earliest and he has to have all the ads ready soon.


I made the rules an Adobe PDF (this should be real easy to print off). I currently don't have anything listed for Vegas but will put up or Vegas only draft.



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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: PROMAX] #18145
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I don't understand why a block is such an issue. Alot more horsepower can be made with heads,cam and compression then you could ever get out of a block.
As far as entry level the block only cost $2200. this is alot less then many other mods.

Well I guess us big block muscle car guys will have to stick to grudge racing!

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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: DodgeCharger] #18146
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What about W7 W8 W9 heads

Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: scottb] #18147
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Scott - Look at the rules. LOL They are allowed in the Xtreme street.

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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: StrokedW7] #18148
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I did not read much of extream rules when it said power adders when read threw and found out you get a 300 lbs weight brake for no nos so im in also

Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: scottb] #18149
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I did not read much of extream rules when it said power adders when read threw and found out you get a 300 lbs weight brake for no nos so im in also






Im sure Bob will want to go too. Should be a GOOD time. I think I am going to go work on my car this weekend.

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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: DodgeCharger] #18150
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I don't understand why a block is such an issue.




Because the Mega block would allow people to build large cube motors.

Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: AdamR] #18151
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im definitely interested and i go to the Rockingham show just about every year.

no Indy -1 heads in Muscle Street?? not even w/ a weight penalty?

guess ill need to 'cage the car before then CHIP


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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: AdamR] #18152
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I don't understand why a block is such an issue.




Because the Mega block would allow people to build large cube motors.




Why not just add a weight penalty for the mega block. Also limit it to conventional oil pan and pickup. I think the bigest cube you can make would be a 528" without going to an external pickup.
My cars already heavy and I can add weight. But these rules that allow a weight break don't really help since it is not very easy to lighten a car that needs to appear basically stock.

Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: DodgeCharger] #18153
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I have the tenative Vegas Rules posted. Let me know what you think.


Maybe I will setup a poll taker on our website for Mega Blocks in Muscle Street. I want to keep the rules open to get good car counts but also need to keep it competitive for all.


Dig the blue Cuda! I'm working on a 72 Tora Red 340 one right now.


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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: johnnyB] #18154
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Got the poll up for Muscle Street and allowing Mega Blocks.


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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: PROMAX] #18155
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Got the poll up for Muscle Street and allowing Mega Blocks.


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so....you'd let the Mega Blocks in....even though there arent any available.

how does that level the playing field when the only people that can use them....are people that already have them??

if you want to let them in.....then at least wait until they are available to the general public.

i just built a nice little 451 that would be great for that class.
why would i bother showing up to run heads up against someone with a 572??


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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: fast68plymouth] #18156
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Got the poll up for Muscle Street and allowing Mega Blocks.


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so....you'd let the Mega Blocks in....even though there arent any available.

how does that level the playing field when the only people that can use them....are people that already have them??

if you want to let them in.....then at least wait until they are available to the general public.

i just built a nice little 451 that would be great for that class.
why would i bother showing up to run heads up against someone with a 572??




To try and beat him!

Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: DodgeCharger] #18157
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Here's another debate: what about R blocks for the small block guys?

Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: 65Dodge440] #18158
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I don't know much about small blocks.What is an R block?

Re: Heads Up Races for 2006 [Re: 65Dodge440] #18159
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I agree with dwayne, If you allow the Mega blocks and R blocks your going to have people showing up with 540 plus cube BB and 430 plus cube small blocks. Then the guys with 340s and 440s wont have a change. Plus its going to lead to the after market block guys wanting to run bigger heads to feed there motors because it wouldnt be fair for them not to be able to feed there big cube motors.

It seems like it takes away the entire point of the class.

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I don't know much about small blocks.What is an R block?




R blocks are the Mopar Perf race blocks for small blocks.

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