Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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Excuse the mess, street car on Drag Week! I ran it in index classes also, and went with the competition engineering weight box/ battery box, mounted on the opposite side of the trunk from the batteries. Had lead shot in bags 25lbs. and some 10lb. steel weights, etc, will easily hold 200lbs.
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Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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I use these weights. They are approximately 10 lbs each and are bolted to the rear most trunk floor through the frame rails. Stuck down the middle of the weights is a T Handle I made to change up to 160 lbs of weight in a couple of minutes. I bought the complete weight bench setup from Habitat for Humanity for next to nothing for the weights.
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Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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Used to use weights but two years ago went to the ET Genie http://www.etgenie.com/. Using Crewcheif Pro I am able to adjust the genie to run within a .01 virtually every time. Might be something to look at and is legal in most index classes as it is a manual adjustment done from outside of the car.
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Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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My weight box is a battery box. As you can see, the box weighs 25#. My added weight are bags of tungsten rounds:
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Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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Thanks for the idea's guys . I have always tried to adjust the throttle cable or just played the stripe at top end with the brakes and think now I will try to use weight. Looks like a box with some bags of lead shot and maybe use the trunk and maybe a box where the back seat would be to help spread some of the weight around. Russ
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Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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I "believe" some index racers use the MSD Power Grid and program taking out timing at the start of a run to slow them down. If you look at some of the 60ft times you can see how they slow it down at the start of the run. Is this legal in NSS, NMCA rules? It's not in Victory NSS series. This is the one thing that can completely foul up NSS or any other non-electronic racing. Heck, as far as I am concerned, it will foul up ALL racing. Not only can you slow up 60 ft times, there is a world of "adjustments" that can be made down track. Read articles about "slew rate" in drag racing.
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Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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I SAY IF YOU CAN HOOK A LAPTOP TO IT OR CAN CHASE THE DOTS WITH IT IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!. I am with you there!
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Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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I SAY IF YOU CAN HOOK A LAPTOP TO IT OR CAN CHASE THE DOTS WITH IT IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!. I am with you there! Same here I do not agree with allowing the new programmable digital boxes and I also have seen some weird 60ft and 1/8 mile times as compared to the 1/4 mile final ET. However like Jim said the boxes are legal. I did ask once when they started to allow the digital boxes and was told that if anyone is caught at the RACE with the laptop hooked up they would be DQ'd. However who is really going to police that???? I can see and have "heard of" some doing it and if I ever really see them I will speak up. I still run a 6AL digital but not programmable box. Myself I think the digital box has no place in an NSS car. If it gets out of hand I'll just drop out and race points locally
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Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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Thanks for the idea's guys . I have always tried to adjust the throttle cable or just played the stripe at top end with the brakes and think now I will try to use weight. Looks like a box with some bags of lead shot and maybe use the trunk and maybe a box where the back seat would be to help spread some of the weight around. Russ If all your trying to do is slow it down why don't you just lower your shift points?
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Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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I don't know of anyone running a grid, but the digital 7 boxes can pull timing out and all that jazz can't they?
We still use the 7al2 as well.. And Russ we use that same gold weight box with free weights in 10 lb increments. The weight seems to do ok... Sometimes with more weight we just hook up better and go faster lol
Casey That's exactly why I no longer use weight. I don't think any of us have enough power to need traction control. I know I don't. Doug
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Re: Index racers ---- weight boxes?
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I have been slowing my car down from a high ten second car to an 11.50 car for many years now. Last year we tried 11.50 index racing and Won a Track Championship. I don`t use weight ( I`ve had one hernia surgery and don`t want another) but I use a Moroso throttle stop , mine is modified a little but it bolts to the corner carb bolt and can be set to restrict the throttle from opening all the way ,on my car the secondaries are barely opening and one turn is about 6 hundredths. A word of advice if you use it don`t just use the one bolt to hold it as it will turn slightly on the stud/bolt. I purchased the Jegs throttle cable/return spring bracket which also mounts to the carb bolts/studs and simply drilled another hole and added another bolt so it can`t move. I have considered a plate system but my results with my current set-up have been great.
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