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Charlie's pans #1788517 03/25/15 11:49 PM 03/25/15 11:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 993 Louisville, MS Dustedu OP super stock
Dustedu OP super stock Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 993 Louisville, MS	I talked to Charlie Gilbertson about building me a new dry sump pan a few weeks ago. He tells me he is thinking he will be closing shop. This really is a bummer to anyone who has or knows his work.

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: Dustedu] #1788518 03/25/15 11:59 PM 03/25/15 11:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA W5DART66 top fuel
W5DART66 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA	Why?

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: Dustedu] #1788519 03/26/15 12:02 AM 03/26/15 12:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,361 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,361 Las Vegas	From what I hear he IS closing shop and would not take an order for a new pan. I hear he lost two long time employees and does not want to train new people, or possibly just a shortage of younger people who want to work hard and learn a trade. I saw Mancini quit carrying them on their website which is what prompted my inquiry as we are in need of two oil pans. Talked to a Canadian friend of mine and he told me the same. Hopefully I am wrong but did not sound good. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: Al_Alguire] #1788520 03/26/15 12:38 AM 03/26/15 12:38 AM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 144 Western Ohio - formerly Southe... H hemid68 member
hemid68 member H Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 144 Western Ohio - formerly Southe...	This is bad news for the Mopar racers! That guy knew how to build a pan, and make it fit your car. I've had 3 and all were great! Dan

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: Al_Alguire] #1788521 03/26/15 01:04 AM 03/26/15 01:04 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,164 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,164 PA.	Quote: From what I hear he IS closing shop and would not take an order for a new pan. I hear he lost two long time employees and does not want to train new people, or possibly just a shortage of younger people who want to work hard and learn a trade. I saw Mancini quit carrying them on their website which is what prompted my inquiry as we are in need of two oil pans. Talked to a Canadian friend of mine and he told me the same. Hopefully I am wrong but did not sound good. I honestly can't blame him one bit on the retraining deal. I personally retired at the age of 53 (3 years before I planned on) because of it. 33 years of Millwrighting, Allegheny Ludlum Steel discontinued the government financed apprenticeship program. They started hiring 20-30 year old guys with mechanical papers then it was on the job training. These ( I call them kids) wanted to surf the web and text all day instead of learning the job. Department heads told my boss they didn't want the kids and keep sending the oldtimers. I didn't mind doing my share but slowly we all got tired of forced overtime, getting sent on every break-down, and watching the kids drink coffee in the shop everyday. Happily retired now and enjoying every day of it. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: Dustedu] #1788522 03/26/15 09:06 AM 03/26/15 09:06 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 452 new york usa P pattyboy 572 mopar
pattyboy 572 mopar P Joined: May 2008 Posts: 452 new york usa	Charlie is 74 years old so he told me last week, He has decided to retire,he currently is trying to have someone hopefully take over the entire operation,but that's only speculation currently.....pat (surely his talents will be missed)

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: pattyboy 572] #1788523 03/26/15 02:45 PM 03/26/15 02:45 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Charlie is a personal friend and is still building pans for BGR.He isn't doing any retail fabbing until he figures out if he is closing the doors or may sale the business to and outside party.The business may relocate down south.We can only hope what ever decision he makes is the best for him.We certainly wish Charlie the best,we have enjoyed a long and respectful business relationship and enjoyed our candid conversations. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: Dustedu] #1788524 03/26/15 03:09 PM 03/26/15 03:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,000 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,000 Oregon	Charlie has been a great guy to go to for pans. He has built a number of custom pans for me and is always willing to try something new or share some info. But we're all getting older and at some point a person just doesn't want to get up early and bend sheetmetal all day! Not to mention hassle with people over unpaid invoices and wrong material being delivered and all the other hassles that go along with running a small business.

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: AndyF] #1788525 03/26/15 05:54 PM 03/26/15 05:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi rowin4 master
rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	Thats sad to hear, but at age 74 it's probably time to take a vacation. It's to bad that he didn't have a guy that could have taken over the business .Like the above post, I also have seen the young guy's that seem to think that the cell phone is more important than the job there supposed to be doing. it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: rowin4] #1788526 03/26/15 06:33 PM 03/26/15 06:33 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	I got one in a deal on a R1 engine I bought, unfortunately I can't use it. It's for a chassis car and mine is stock suspension. Very nice pans, it's sad to see craftsmen like Charlie close their doors.

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: B G Racing] #1788527 03/26/15 07:17 PM 03/26/15 07:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	Quote: Charlie is a personal friend and is still building pans for BGR.He isn't doing any retail fabbing until he figures out if he is closing the doors or may sale the business to and outside party.The business may relocate down south.We can only hope what ever decision he makes is the best for him.We certainly wish Charlie the best,we have enjoyed a long and respectful business relationship and enjoyed our candid conversations. He sounds like a great craftsman and a nice guy. In the entertainment business he would definitely be a prime candidate for a much deserved "roast". I hope he chooses the path best for him at this point in life. Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: jcc] #1788528 03/28/15 04:50 AM 03/28/15 04:50 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA Bigbeep super stock
Bigbeep super stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA	Last summer when I destroyed my first Charlie's pan I called him looking for another one. I was in a hurry trying to get the car back together for the 10 Grand Nats at Norwalk. I ordered one Friday and Sunday morning drove up to his shop and picked it up. Super nice guy who still understands what customer service is. He built that pan on the weekend and was wiping it off just as I walked in his shop. Showed me around the shop and talked for a while. He told me the story of his long time employees leaving. The industry will miss his workmanship, but at 74 years young it is time for him to enjoy his golden years. Now, if I only had the cash to buy the business turnkey! Beep 8473278-IMG_0352.JPG (126 downloads)

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: Bigbeep] #1788529 03/28/15 12:27 PM 03/28/15 12:27 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,509 Tulsa, Oklahoma 340Cuda master
340Cuda master Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,509 Tulsa, Oklahoma	As much as I had to see him close up I can certainly understand his decision. Who else is out there we can look to for his quality and customer service? Bill

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: Bigbeep] #1788530 03/28/15 12:48 PM 03/28/15 12:48 PM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,407 Ambridge, Pa. R rickraw top fuel
rickraw top fuel R Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,407 Ambridge, Pa.	Wonder what the business is worth.

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: rickraw] #1788531 03/28/15 01:33 PM 03/28/15 01:33 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,675 Akron, Ohio U.S.A. roadhazard master
roadhazard master Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,675 Akron, Ohio U.S.A.	When I talked to charlie I asked if he was going to sell the business, He didn't think anybody would be interested in purchasing it, for whatever reason. I wish somebody who might have an interest would contact him before too much time passes. I have my hands full over here with gaskets

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: Bigbeep] #1788532 03/28/15 01:58 PM 03/28/15 01:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,066 Mo. racerx master
racerx master Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,066 Mo.	Nice welds

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: roadhazard] #1788533 03/28/15 02:01 PM 03/28/15 02:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,164 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,164 PA.	Guys like Charlie never fully retire so if the right person stepped up and bought it I'm sure he would do some consulting work. When you work that hard to get a quality company up and running for years, you would hate to see it die. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: pittsburghracer] #1788534 03/28/15 02:44 PM 03/28/15 02:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER master
CHAPPER master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	Quote: Guys like Charlie never fully retire so if the right person stepped up and bought it I'm sure he would do some consulting work. When you work that hard to get a quality company up and running for years, you would hate to see it die. ...Seems I remember YOU saying you were retired,,,,,maybe YOU could step up and set an example about "never fully retiring" and buy it?? If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: CHAPPER] #1788535 03/28/15 02:53 PM 03/28/15 02:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,285 Ohio 6 64dodge572 master
64dodge572 master 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,285 Ohio	Looks like a done deal: http://www.thompsonauctioneers.com/

Re: Charlie's pans [Re: 64dodge572] #1788536 03/28/15 04:02 PM 03/28/15 04:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Looks like a done deal: http://www.thompsonauctioneers.com/ Thats too bad.. I talked to Charlie a couple of times and he gave me some ideas on pans that I was building... he knew I was only making mainly stuff for myself... but he does deserve the retirement

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