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360 oil pressure #1784983
03/21/15 04:11 PM
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I built a 360 with speed pro H116CP30 pistons, crank turned .010 (matching bearings of course), McCandless machined smog heads (2.02 1.60 cut .020 ports tapped and plugged) air gap intake, Edelbrock 750, MP high volume oil pump.

On the initial start up the oil pressure was approximately 45 psi at 2000 RPM. It's slowly decreased as it warmed up to around 25 psi. it holds 15 to 20 PSI at Idle when it's warm. But once it's nicely warmed up it only maintains 25 to 30 maximum.

It's a Mopar performance standard pressure high volume pump. Do these numbers sound right to you guys? I'm pretty sure I'm going to add the high pressure relief spring to the pump.

I have the engine in a 2700 pound street/racecar with 29 inch tall tires and a 4.56 gear. I suspect I'll finish the quarter mile around 6000 to 6500 RPM. if memory serves the general rule is 10 PSI per 1000 RPM.

Thoughts?

Laine

Re: 360 oil pressure [Re: Lmopar69] #1784984
03/21/15 04:24 PM
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You failed to mention what weight oil? On the .0025-.003 builds with 30w I normally get over 75 on startup and over 30 at idle of 1000 rpm and hits 75 at any above, thats with the melling hv72 pump.

Did you do the normal breakin and drain oil and cut filter for inspection?

Im wondering what others will say.


Re: 360 oil pressure [Re: Lmopar69] #1784985
03/21/15 04:46 PM
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Your idle numbers are fine, but the start up and higher rpm numbers are low. The pump is likely bleeding off pressure too soon due to a weak relief spring.
Unfortunately on a small block you need to drop the pan in order to stiffen the spring.

Are you running at least a 10w/30 oil?

Re: 360 oil pressure [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1784986
03/21/15 05:46 PM
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Oops. Using Havoline 10-40 with zinc additive. The engine has about 20-30 minutes of break in time on it. I drove it about a 1/2 mile once and, of course had to do a little burnout for a buddy. ;-). Kept the rpm low though.

I would say it's ready to get some abuse now. But, first, I guess I'll change out the relief spring.... Yay, pulling the engine again. But, then there is that snowball effect.... I want to replace the cam. I think it needs a bit more than the 284-484 that's in it.

Laine

Re: 360 oil pressure [Re: Lmopar69] #1784987
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That's good oil pressure.. I would like more, but that's ok..

Re: 360 oil pressure [Re: Lmopar69] #1784988
03/21/15 10:34 PM
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Quote:

I have the engine in a 2700 pound street/racecar with 29 inch tall tires and a 4.56 gear. I suspect I'll finish the quarter mile around 6000 to 6500 RPM. if memory serves the general rule is 10 PSI per 1000 RPM.

Thoughts?

Laine


Its too low. I'm assuming the 3/8 pipe plug on the rear end of the dr horizontle oil gallery is in place (the one that is hidden inside), & if the oil weight is correct (I ain't an oil guy) then as said pull the pump & see what is up with it. Holler with any developments. EDIT Direct reading gauge?

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Re: 360 oil pressure [Re: Lmopar69] #1784989
03/21/15 11:41 PM
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Are you using a mechanical or electric gauge? You might want to recheck with a known good gauge before you tear into it.

Re: 360 oil pressure [Re: NITROUSN] #1784990
03/22/15 01:37 AM
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I'm sure the plug is in. But, I gotta pull the engine to put the high pressure spring in, so I plan to double check everything.

Mechanical guage. I had that same thought. Tried two different ones, even two different tubes. Both read the same.

Thanks fellas

Re: 360 oil pressure [Re: Lmopar69] #1784991
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You might pull the dist/intergear & preoil (CW) with the 5/16 hex shaft & see what develops and the plug at the rear end of the dr horizontle oil gallery is straight down in the dist hole so you will be able to (easily) check that (visually) at the same time. if that is it it'd sure be a stroke of luck for you expecially if you can install it from the dist hole & I'll check mine later today. it'd take some doin but might be doable


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Re: 360 oil pressure [Re: Lmopar69] #1784992
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On the initial start up the oil pressure was approximately 45 psi at 2000 RPM. It's slowly decreased as it warmed up to around 25 psi. it holds 15 to 20 PSI at Idle when it's warm. But once it's nicely warmed up it only maintains 25 to 30 maximum.





How warm is nicely warmed? Have a temp gauge on it?


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