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Racepak or other Data loggers.... #1783648
03/19/15 03:21 PM
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Can they log the basic sensors you already have? Meaning non-racepak sensors, just your run of the mill temp and oil pressure type one, or do they all have to use THEIR sensors?

I think I need a logger, but man they are pricey...And then to display what they are reading you need another set of sensors and gauges...I want to look at putting one in, but need it at a more reasonable price tag when all is said and done.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: Dragula] #1783649
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Racepak is the best because they are almost impervious to noise. But you have to use their V-net sensors.

Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: Dragula] #1783650
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Most data loggers use a 0-5v sensor so if racepac
does then its just another sensor.. it could have
another ground but I dont know their stuff

Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: Dragula] #1783651
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Just put a Racepak Sportsman in the car this winter.... I've got ALOT to learn! Cool seeing how high the converter flashes after tbrake release. Seeing actual shift rpm in relation to your shift light..... and noting how long my 1-2 shift was takng in relation to my 2-3..... Self inflicted hydraulic leak was slipping the band. Eventually I want to add oil psi, coolant temp, and one O2 sensor at least. I bought mine used at a lil savings...

Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: J_BODY] #1783652
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Quote:

Just put a Racepak Sportsman in the car this winter.... I've got ALOT to learn! Cool seeing how high the converter flashes after tbrake release. Seeing actual shift rpm in relation to your shift light..... and noting how long my 1-2 shift was takng in relation to my 2-3..... Self inflicted hydraulic leak was slipping the band. Eventually I want to add oil psi, coolant temp, and one O2 sensor at least. I bought mine used at a lil savings...




When it comes to temps they use the standard K-type
probes.. a 1/4" K-probe will work great.. just gonna
need to weld a boss onto the radiator then use a
1/4" compression to 1/4" pipe fitting... you can
look on line to find K-probes pretty cheap

Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: J_BODY] #1783653
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So much valuable information can be gained with a racepak. I caught my high volume oil pump sticking and going over 130 pounds of pressure and when I tried switching from a milidon oil pan to a canton my oil pressure was dropping under 20 pounds of pressure when I left the Line on the trans brake.


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422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
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Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: pittsburghracer] #1783654
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I think their pressure sensors suck. I've had to replace 3 of them in 3 years at $185 a piece. They are good recorders, but overpriced. They are the best choice right but, IMO the Racedata I started with was less trouble and better sensors, unfortunately they are out of business.

Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: Mopar_Rich] #1783655
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Quote:

Racepak is the best because they are almost impervious to noise. But you have to use their V-net sensors.




Rich... or anyone... is this V-net sensor anything
special or is it just a 0-5 volt sensor.. how many
wires on their sensors

Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1783656
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Been looking at the Datamaxx units as well. Same issue I think...I would need their dash to see the data live.

Both are pricey, and if RP sensors fail with that kind of regularity, I would probably go thru the roof spending that on it to have it fail...

That's all my Autometer stuff did was quit on me....

I bought the cheapest Sunpro crap I could find the last time out...Two seasons and still working....I think all the gauges are made in the same factory these days regardless of price..

If I spend the coin, it has to last....Or be cheap enough to carry spares.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: camastomcat] #1783657
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Going on my 4th year with my racepak with zero issues on a car that is raced every weekend from April into November. Oil, O2, trans temp, water temp, fuel pressure, and all the ones that are included.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: pittsburghracer] #1783658
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I have a odd ball unit.. called a "Informer" but its
out of business.. but all the sensors are just standard
stuff.. I happen to have a FEW of them left over from
work.. thats pressure and temp sensors.. that unit
gives me 18 channels(read outs).. I use most of them
but 8 are EGTs... to be honest I wouldnt buy anything
that needed special sensors... you can buy the standard
0-5v and K stuff on line pretty cheap

Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: pittsburghracer] #1783659
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Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1783660
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Quote:

Rich... or anyone... is this V-net sensor anything
special or is it just a 0-5 volt sensor.. how many
wires on their sensors





The basic sensor is a simple 0-5V sensor, but ... (there's always a "but" isn't there?) they use the V-net to make it dirt simple to add and remove sensors with no additional wiring. It's like a long daisy-chain or a CAN network, You just insert the V-net module anywhere in the network and it works. But that requires the V-net module electronics to communicate with the network. The sensor is simple but you still need the electronics interface.

Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: Mopar_Rich] #1783661
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Well I have been using Racepak stuff for probably 6 years now. Never had to replace a sensor on any of my cars. Their system MUST be run with their sensors as well. IMO there is NOTHING better than racepak for data logging. Their customer support is also awesome as well.


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Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1783662
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I'm installing a logger dash soon as the parts come in

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Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1783663
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Quote:

Well I have been using Racepak stuff for probably 6 years now. Never had to replace a sensor on any of my cars. Their system MUST be run with their sensors as well. IMO there is NOTHING better than racepak for data logging. Their customer support is also awesome as well.




Racepak juct came out with a GPS sensor to show MPH. I was the first to buy one

Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: boatracer572] #1783664
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Racepak has the best reputation, but they are pricy. Don't be afraid to shop other brands. Be advised that sensors are addictive. I have 21 and want more.


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Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: rickseeman] #1783665
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You can buy another logger to save a few bucks..........but in the end, you will always WISH you had bought a RacePak

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Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: Monte_Smith] #1783666
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For someone that has no data logging parts.. Whats a ballpark price to purchase a complete system?

Re: Racepak or other Data loggers.... [Re: Jeepmon] #1783667
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Quote:

For someone that has no data logging parts.. Whats a ballpark price to purchase a complete system?




The sky is the limit honestly. You need to decide what you want to log first, then decide which logger will fit your needs best. The Racepak sportsman is less expensive but has more limited capabilities from the factory, channels that it can monitor and type. The v300 has more capability while the 500 has the most. Prices for the base units go from $850 for a Sportsman to $3200 for a V500o unit. All other channels(sensors)are extra and those prices vary and interchange with each unit.

Read all you want here
http://www.racepak.com/Drag_Racing/Sportsman.php
For most bracket guys a Sportsman will do all they want or need.


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