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UPDATE: Starter issues - resolved!
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03/17/15 11:41 PM
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68 D100 4 speed 318 This is the huge 3 bolt deal My old napa starter started getting tight after the engine heated up. I replaced with another napa and it grinded every time i tried to start. That happened for a day or so and i loosened it and was able to rotate it slightly. I thought i cured it until a single time last weekend when it happened again. Any ideas? Anyone ever put a dab of lithium grease on the teeth to help it mesh? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shruggy.gif" alt="" />
Last edited by wally426ci; 04/14/15 08:52 AM.
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Re: Starter issues
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03/18/15 12:38 AM
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No on the grease fixing it. I'll assume you tightened it good. bell bolts tight? otherwise take it off & another visual & see if you can see anything loose/out of whack. Something is changing (moving). Holler back with any news
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Re: Starter issues
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03/24/15 08:52 AM
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Ok, to follow up: So far, I believe it is ok. I elongated the holes with a large rat tail file on the starter body itself. This allowed me to move it another 1/8" or so away from the flywheel in order for it engage nicely. When I took it off before, I could see that it would hit the flywheel but not engage all of the time. It is possible that the bell housing is slightly moved, but I thought these were like a 727 (mine is NP435) where they have dowels/pins. Time will tell. Thanks for helping! 
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Re: Starter issues
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03/24/15 01:45 PM
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thanks for the heads up as I have a BB/NP 435/hyd clutch setup going into a 65 D100 & I will check that (potential) issue when I get there
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Re: Starter issues
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03/28/15 10:26 PM
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Back to square one. It did it again. It may be a coincidence but it seems to only be if the motor is hot after driving a while.
I may try another starter since the old one didn't do it. Is there anywhere I can send the old starter to get rebuilt?
not being a smart azz but try your yellow pages. most alternator shops also rebuild starters.
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Re: Starter issues
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03/29/15 10:03 AM
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The problem is the old starter would never grind when warm. The old one would crank slow.
both indicate mis-alignment. maybe some shims?
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Re: Starter issues
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03/29/15 01:41 PM
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I tried filing the holes but no luck so far.
have you actually looked at it while the starter is being engaged?
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Re: Starter issues
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03/30/15 09:29 AM
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I did with the inspection cover off. I thought I had it engaging smoother. Now it is starting to seem like a heat related issue....
I thought so too when I read this thread. Headers? you might have to fab up a heat shield or wrap the area of the exhaust near the starter.
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