Re: Early a-body weight
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I believe the valiants have a four inch shorter wheel base than the Darts. The trunk lids on the Darts weigh a bunch, and so do the hoods. A 2dr post valiant should be the lightest early A ever built. If I were to ever build another street BB car, I think I would go right to a strut front end to gain the room and get weight off the car. When you boil it all down, a strut front conversion is not cheap, but neither are the alternatives. The strut deal will have the most clearance for motor and headers, and be the lightest. If you go with a Dart, by tubbing it and moving the rear axle six inches forward, you can gain a lot of weight transfer and it will really help on the street. The pic of my racer has the axle moved six inches.
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Re: Early a-body weight
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I bought a 62 Plymouth max wedge roller one time and they handed me the title and it said 410 or 415 hp and 3040 or 3080 pounds. I thought wow this thing must be bad.
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Re: Early a-body weight
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The early A bodies are 106 WB for the Valiant. The Darts I believe, were 108.
The 62 2dr post Valiant/Lancers were the lightest, which is why they were so coveted by slant 6 racers, I've heard some of them brag about getting them down to 2400.
Mine weighed 2907 without driver at the beginning of Drag Week 2011. That's all steel, all factory glass, 2 seats, exhaust, iron headed small block/904 with a full cage, and ladder bar 9".
Since then, I've added aluminum heads, and a tubular k-member, but also dyna-mat and carpet, so probably not much different.
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Re: Early a-body weight
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The Valiants were always the lightest rides for the A-bodies... I dont recall the wheel base on the different years.. I had a 69 Valiant A-100 post car.. the registration weight was 2940 but that weight is based some averages.. I never weighed it before I started cutting
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Re: Early a-body weight
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I found a web page that lists the 65 Dart wheelbase at 111 inches, which makes sense. I moved my axle 6 inch forward, and am at 106 or close. Base weight was listed (curb weight) 2844 lbs. I found a page on the Valiants. 1965 dr post ways 2680 curb weight, 106 WB. The specs for both cars would be slant six, with the lightest trans, no options.
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Re: Early a-body weight
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I found a web page that lists the 65 Dart wheelbase at 111 inches, which makes sense. I moved my axle 6 inch forward, and am at 106 or close. Base weight was listed (curb weight) 2844 lbs.
And I'm sure that was the /6 car for that curb weight
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Re: Early a-body weight
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Yeah, just found the same thing. I knew the 67 and up Darts were 111, but didn't realize the early cars were too. Well, that's not good...get a Valiant!! While the 62 is the lightest, it's a little shorter from firewall to core support, so if you must have a big block, get a 63-66. I've had one friend with a 64, and another with a 65, that made awesome BB cars.
Expect to modify the trans tunnel, as it is very small. I enlarged mine because I run a CSR carbon shield on my 904, and needed the room to get it in and out.
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Re: Early a-body weight
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The 63 never had a v8 and have slightly less room in the firewall area and the windshield wiper motor sticks out noticeably more.
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Re: Early a-body weight
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This is the modified firewall and tunnel on my Dad's 65 convertible Valiant Signet...gasser style.
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Re: Early a-body weight
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Still a ways to go, but should be an interesting ride...
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Re: Early a-body weight
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Gasser Straight Axle, Chevy Spindle and Brake Kits, 58-1/2 Hub-to-Hub Part # 9103950
It's a speedway motors piece, we already had the Vega steering box.
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