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difference beteween single and dual plane #178014
12/29/08 02:28 PM
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hello wat is the difference do wr get more power what is the best ? i have a 340.

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Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: nico06] #178015
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Dual plane usually more/better low end and the single plane for more top but may take away for the bottom.


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Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: MoparforLife] #178016
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and a LD340 IS OK what is the best compromis ( i don't know in english)


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Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: nico06] #178017
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IMO an excellent choice. Very good manifold. I use one on this car in the pic.

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Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: MoparforLife] #178018
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what is IMO ? where i can find it ?


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Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: nico06] #178019
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Generally if your motor spends the most of it's time (say 85-90%) on the street between 2500 and 4000 rpm a good dual plane like the Edelbrock Performer RPM or The old LD340. If you run a lot of gear, a 4 speed or a lot of stall 3200+ Generally a good single plane like the Holley Strip Dominator or the Eddie Victor 340 will work better.....by better I mean will produce the highest average torque throughout the powerband you run the most. The compromise is how much low end torque are you will ing to lose to gain how much above say 4000rpm where a single plane will start to show an advantage....every combination is different but with a mild 340 in an A body the performer RPM (or it's air gap alternative) is a pretty good choice unless you have really good heads becuase the intake alone doesn't make the big top end power pay off interms of ET...it's the combination of compression, head flow induction (intake and carb), exhaust flow and gearing.

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Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: Streetwize] #178020
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I would run the performer RPM Air Gap...its the best compromise of everything. I have seen several dyno tests where they make almost as much peak HP as the single planes but don't really give anything up down low to the other dual planes.

I think it looks cool too!


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Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: nico06] #178021
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IMO = In my opinion. He is saying that an LD340 is a good choice

Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: BSB67] #178022
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IMO = In my opinion. He is saying that an LD340 is a good choice



That is the problem. Not even one on eBay right now.
I repeat my experience with ordering an airgap. I had one ordered from Ray Barton and he asked me what I was running at the time and I told him an LD340. He told me to run what I have, that any improvement would be minimal and not close to cost efficient. Called Edelbrock tech and was told the same thing. says something for 'old school' technology. If you don't already have one the next best choice would be an Airgap.

Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: MoparforLife] #178023
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What's the difference between the LD340 & the Air Gap? Alum vs cast?


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Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: LS-300] #178024
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LD340 is old school technology and the Air gap is the same basic intake as the RPM only with an 'airgap' under the plenum/carb to in effect make for a cooler fuel charge.

Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: MoparforLife] #178025
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ok so go fot ld 340 ! somebody have one ? AND DO I HAVE TO HEEP ME HEADERS OR LOOKING FOR 4 BY 1 AND THE CARB ? which one ? THE BEST SIZE FOR EXHAUSt ? thanks


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Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: nico06] #178026
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Go for the Ld340 if you can find one, a set of TTI step headers and a 2.5" exhaust.
Works great on a street car.

Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: boydsdodge] #178027
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Re: difference beteween single and dual plane [Re: Dragula] #178028
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I am not a fan of the dual plane intakes on any old car or engine I have ever owned, but I have to say, I purchased a Air gap, and modded it a little, and the darn thing flies....Removed the logo, port matched it, ground down the center divider, and blended the entry ways with a 1" open spacer. I still need to do the cross cooling thing, but ran out of time when I had it off last.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk






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