Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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Im old school and know the True definition of a Street car. Its a car that you would normally drive to work, vacation, shopping, or sunday drive. A lot of factory produced performance cars can be considered street cars as well. Mustang GT 500,s to even the hellcat challenger. Why, they can drive like normal docile "street cars" like they were intended to do. Without detuning. Now whats Not a street car, are the highly modified, high compression, race gas, blown, nitrous fed, high stall vert etc modified combos. That just because, you put mufflers on them and a get a tag for them makes them a Street car. They are not! They are Simply, Race cars driven on the street. Period Tags and Muffs, Do no not =Equal a street car on a Race car driven on the street. I don't fool myself, I know the difference. Even my slow ride, is not Truly a Street car anymore. Nor do I feel the need to Convince others that it is a street car because I can tag it and drive it on the street.
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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03/14/15 10:41 PM
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So gdonovan, are you telling that if I live in your state, I can't tag a sand rail type rig, or a T-bucket, an older classic, street rod, or some other such vehicle because it doesn't have a defroster..........ummm, OK.
Depends- I can tell you for sure if you show up with a sand rail you will be pulled over, ticketed and the vehicle towed. Happened several years ago to a buddy of mine who towed it up from Arkansas.
Was bizarre riding around in the thing watching the road going by under the "floor" which was just mesh decking.
The police were NOT amused, they did not give a toot it was plated out of state. They made it abundantly clear if it was seen on the road again there was a pair of bracelets in someones future.
Hey I have been peened by other states laws. I was in MASS and got pulled over by a state trooper on the interstate and had to abandon my tow dolly.
No plates required in CT, they are in MASS. I snuck back under cover of darkness and dragged it home.
T-buckets may fall under antique plates since I'm assuming they are 30's vintage.
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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My take is as long as it passes a state safety inspection and ANYBODY can get in and dive it 100 miles then it's a street car. That being said my car wouldn't meet my standard criteria I've had to teach people how to shift a V-gate with face-plate non-syncronized gears My heater valve started leaking on the gas pedal so out went the heater til I get the valve fixed. I still think it's a street car that runs tens on pump gas Gus
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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My take is as long as it passes a state safety inspection and ANYBODY can get in and drive it 100 miles then it's a street car. Gus
If you cant toss the keys to "ANYBODY" granny/ grampa/father/mom or your kid to run down the street for whatever.
Its Not a street car
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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Ha I was thinking more like some jerry cans. I consider street driving as just that. Not extended highway trips.
The guys on DW that were hauling fuel(for what ever reason) were hauling drums but we had to travel maybe 400 miles in a day and they had enough for a week
Doesn't Sunoco still sell CAM 2 112 at certain stations at the pump? I remember filling up at the Nats in Columbus years ago.
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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Ha I was thinking more like some jerry cans. I consider street driving as just that. Not extended highway trips.
The guys on DW that were hauling fuel(for what ever reason) were hauling drums but we had to travel maybe 400 miles in a day and they had enough for a week
Doesn't Sunoco still sell CAM 2 112 at certain stations at the pump? I remember filling up at the Nats in Columbus years ago.
To me its what you can find at any station.. not just 1 or 2... I didnt make my Rampage run on E-85 because its not found out west.. and I had my E-85 carb sitting here .. plenty of station in my area with E-85 but I knew I wouldnt be on DW in my back yard
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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if you have antique tags there is no inspection here. so if I decide to go for a ride in my junk predator head 14 to 1 900 inch lift cam with 2 foggers I can because I have tags and insurance and all lights and windows. If your out for a ride I guess your slow real street car will get mopped
This be fish killer, did you fix the front end wiggle? I hear Ray bought your Charger.
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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What about cars that didn't have heat from the factory?
I know now some states its mandatory, your state may or may not. Last time I got an inspection several years ago they did check.
Never heard a thing about heat/defroster being needed here in CT. I do VIN verifications on cars all the time that come here from other states and have never had that on the checklist?
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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My definition, Can be driven on the street and has the paperwork to do so. Can drive near law enforcement without sweating too bad LOL. I have done three drag weeks and I am amazed at what cops don't care about. Non DOT tires, no exhaust system, fender exit headers, LOUD....none of it seems to stir up much trouble. I would love to be a fly on the wall in some of these small towns when these cars roll through, especially late at night. Example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv-ahRGwsOw
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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Never heard a thing about heat/defroster being needed here in CT. I do VIN verifications on cars all the time that come here from other states and have never had that on the checklist?
When DMV was doing the inspections it was something that was done all the time. Ive had dozens of vehicles inspected by DMV over the years, usually in New London when they were open and then Norwich later. The inspector would ask for the blower to be turned on, feel for airflow and move on.
Here it is noted as having to be checked if a vehicle is taken to the main office for inspection for salvage title-
http://www.ct.gov/dmv/LIB/dmv/20/29/b-256.pdf
Here it is noted for commercial vehicle inspection-
http://www.ct.gov/dmv/lib/dmv/R-361.pdf
From the CT DMV page-
Sec. 14-275a-39. Defrosters
(a) Defrosting and defogging equipment shall direct a sufficient flow of heated air onto the windshield, the window to the left of the driver and the glass in the viewing area directly to the right of the driver to eliminate frost, fog and snow.
(b) The defrosting system shall conform to SAE J381 and SAE J382.
(c) The defroster and defogging system shall be capable of furnishing heated, outside ambient air, except that the part of the system furnishing additional air to the windshield, entrance door and step well may be of the re-circulating air type.
(d) Auxiliary fans are not considered defrosting or defogging systems.
(e) Portable heaters shall not be utilized.
Maybe they let it slide now that "inspections" are being done by outside contractors, I don't know. When we were sending cars up for used car inspection at the dealer level to Norwich (2002-2005) it was also something that was checked at the time at the Norwich office.
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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Never heard a thing about heat/defroster being needed here in CT. I do VIN verifications on cars all the time that come here from other states and have never had that on the checklist?
When DMV was doing the inspections it was something that was done all the time. Ive had dozens of vehicles inspected by DMV over the years, usually in New London when they were open and then Norwich later. The inspector would ask for the blower to be turned on, feel for airflow and move on.
Here it is noted as having to be checked if a vehicle is taken to the main office for inspection for salvage title-
http://www.ct.gov/dmv/LIB/dmv/20/29/b-256.pdf
Here it is noted for commercial vehicle inspection-
http://www.ct.gov/dmv/lib/dmv/R-361.pdf
From the CT DMV page-
Sec. 14-275a-39. Defrosters
(a) Defrosting and defogging equipment shall direct a sufficient flow of heated air onto the windshield, the window to the left of the driver and the glass in the viewing area directly to the right of the driver to eliminate frost, fog and snow.
(b) The defrosting system shall conform to SAE J381 and SAE J382.
(c) The defroster and defogging system shall be capable of furnishing heated, outside ambient air, except that the part of the system furnishing additional air to the windshield, entrance door and step well may be of the re-circulating air type.
(d) Auxiliary fans are not considered defrosting or defogging systems.
(e) Portable heaters shall not be utilized.
Maybe they let it slide now that "inspections" are being done by outside contractors, I don't know. When we were sending cars up for used car inspection at the dealer level to Norwich (2002-2005) it was also something that was checked at the time at the Norwich office.
A lot has changed but still that is good info as I find myself defending myself quite often as they have 3 cameras watching and listening
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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So gdonovan, are you telling that if I live in your state, I can't tag a sand rail type rig, or a T-bucket, an older classic, street rod, or some other such vehicle because it doesn't have a defroster..........ummm, OK.
Depends- I can tell you for sure if you show up with a sand rail you will be pulled over, ticketed and the vehicle towed. Happened several years ago to a buddy of mine who towed it up from Arkansas.
Was bizarre riding around in the thing watching the road going by under the "floor" which was just mesh decking.
The police were NOT amused, they did not give a toot it was plated out of state. They made it abundantly clear if it was seen on the road again there was a pair of bracelets in someones future.
Hey I have been peened by other states laws. I was in MASS and got pulled over by a state trooper on the interstate and had to abandon my tow dolly.
No plates required in CT, they are in MASS. I snuck back under cover of darkness and dragged it home.
T-buckets may fall under antique plates since I'm assuming they are 30's vintage.
I would have likely gone to jail then. Because I am NOT the type, that "because I say so" is a good enough answer for me. I would want specifics as to WHY the vehicle was not legal. I would imagine if you had a Baja Bug, with clipped fenders, exposed motor, no bumpers etc, that would likely be fine, yet the sand rail isn't. I would want to know WHY..........Don't sound like CT is the place for me............LOL!!!
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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My take is as long as it passes a state safety inspection and ANYBODY can get in and drive it 100 miles then it's a street car. Gus
If you cant toss the keys to "ANYBODY" granny/ grampa/father/mom or your kid to run down the street for whatever.
Its Not a street car
Nope, that don't work either. I can toss the keys for my dually to my girlfriend and she would toss them right back, because she can't drive a straight shift............LOL!!! Also, the first time she drove my Mercedes, she didn't know how to start it. So having to "show" somebody how to drive something is no deal breaker. Bet several on here can't drive my 60s vintage, twin stick Mack without some instruction.........LOL!!!
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Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ???
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And BTW? Arguing with the police on the side of the road is rarely productive in my experience, usually just the opposite.
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