What the hell is a "Street car" ???

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I would have likely gone to jail then. Because I am NOT the type, that "because I say so" is a good enough answer for me. I would want specifics as to WHY the vehicle was not legal. I would imagine if you had a Baja Bug, with clipped fenders, exposed motor, no bumpers etc, that would likely be fine, yet the sand rail isn't. I would want to know WHY..........Don't sound like CT is the place for me............LOL!!!

No fenders and exposed engine were just two of the issues.

It was a SAND RAIL that had been plated out of state very much like the one in the picture attached except with a VW air cooled engine.

those are totally legal down here, I think they make them have some sort of windshield. because CT is screwed up doesn't mean the rest of the world is. and it surely doesn't dictate what a street car is.

I would say that the tires on that are illegal in
most (if not all) states on a public highway.. here
in Mich you have to have a windshield also... my
brother has a buggy thats street legal

Of course you wouldn't run the actual "sand" tires on the street, but the vehicle itself is perfectly legal. For the street I just ran radials on the front of mine and "Mud Claws" on the rear. Then for actual mud riding, would put a tractor type "steering" tire on the front

Posted By: dizuster

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 03:32 PM

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MUST HAVE
license
insurance
DOT tires
pump gas
lights
horns
turn signal
brake light
VIN number
mufflers
rear view/side mirror
bumpers

CANT HAVE
slicks
wheelie bars
parachute

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If you can name one production car that came standard (or as an option) with chutes or bars.. I will change my opinion..

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If you cant drive a few hundred miles in any direction and be assured you're going to find fuel to fill up on at any pump? Then its not a street car. On the west side of the country E-85 is pretty scarce. So, my opinion is that if your car is an E-85 only deal, then its not a street car.

I have...
A small hydraulic roller cam
3.55 gear
2500 stall converter
DOT Street tires
Full Exhaust
Seat Belts
Registration/Insurance/Plates

But your saying because NHRA says my 9.80 car needs a roll bar (which I've safely installed with seat belts in all 4 corners in the car, and I run it on E85 which is available everywhere around here... I'm not a street car?

In the mid-west E-85 is everywhere... I can drive in any direction 200 miles and feel confident that I'll be able to find a station. You'd be a fool not to take advantage of the E85 out here for boosted/high compression cars. Certainly no one around here talks like that about E85.

Hmmm... these "rules" and comments sure sound like they were made up buy a bunch of west coast 11.50 guys trying to justify why their cars are the fastest "street" cars around.

I have no problem piling my whole family in my car, and going wherever we need to. My 5 year olds don't complain about my roll bar... not sure why you guys would.

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Posted By: Duner

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 03:37 PM

A street car is anything you can drive on the street.
It's up to the owner/driver to decide what level of pain and suffering is tolerable for the occupants of the vehicle. Some people can put up with a whole bunch to "make a statement" or just have fun with it.

I personally have gone soft in my old age. I require power steering and air conditioning in my rides. I'll never again have a "race only" vehicle, because I enjoy simply driving my stuff too much to only trailer it around and pay somebody else to provide me with a place to play with it. That, and I hate waiting in lines.... LOL

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 03:45 PM

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There it is

Yup.

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Posted By: Quicktree

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 04:06 PM

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MUST HAVE
license
insurance
DOT tires
pump gas
lights
horns
turn signal
brake light
VIN number
mufflers
rear view/side mirror
bumpers

CANT HAVE
slicks
wheelie bars
parachute

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If you can name one production car that came standard (or as an option) with chutes or bars.. I will change my opinion..

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If you cant drive a few hundred miles in any direction and be assured you're going to find fuel to fill up on at any pump? Then its not a street car. On the west side of the country E-85 is pretty scarce. So, my opinion is that if your car is an E-85 only deal, then its not a street car.

I have...
A small hydraulic roller cam
3.55 gear
2500 stall converter
DOT Street tires
Full Exhaust
Seat Belts
Registration/Insurance/Plates

But your saying because NHRA says my 9.80 car needs a roll bar (which I've safely installed with seat belts in all 4 corners in the car, and I run it on E85 which is available everywhere around here... I'm not a street car?

In the mid-west E-85 is everywhere... I can drive in any direction 200 miles and feel confident that I'll be able to find a station. You'd be a fool not to take advantage of the E85 out here for boosted/high compression cars. Certainly no one around here talks like that about E85.

Hmmm... these "rules" and comments sure sound like they were made up buy a bunch of west coast 11.50 guys trying to justify why their cars are the fastest "street" cars around.

I have no problem piling my whole family in my car, and going wherever we need to. My 5 year olds don't complain about my roll bar... not sure why you guys would.

your kids heads are awful close to those roll bars, have you ever checked to see how much the restraints will move in case of a roll? im with you on the rules but I would never strap my kids back there. a 5 year old has no fear it's up to you to make sure they are safe

Posted By: dizuster

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 04:32 PM

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your kids heads are awful close to those roll bars, have you ever checked to see how much the restraints will move in case of a roll? im with you on the rules but I would never strap my kids back there. a 5 year old has no fear it's up to you to make sure they are safe

Thanks for the comment/concern

. I was a seat/seat belt engineer for 15 years, so I have a pretty good handle on what belts can/can't do. They are cranked in there pretty good by the lap belts at the proper cushion belt angle. I wouldn't put them back there either if I hadn't spent a lot of time making sure it was safe before doing so.

Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 05:34 PM

According to some of you guys........a factory original 63 Max Wedge car, with the 13.1 motor, solid lifter, heater delete, wiper delete, manual steering, drum brake car, that you could buy off the dealer lot and drive home, is NOT a street car.........Sounds like some guys need to "sack up".........LOL!!!

Monte

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 05:38 PM

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According to some of you guys........a factory original 63 Max Wedge car, with the 13.1 motor, solid lifter, heater delete, wiper delete, manual steering, drum brake car, that you could buy off the dealer lot and drive home, is NOT a street car.........Sounds like some guys need to "sack up".........LOL!!!

Monte

I guess the '68 Hemi Darts and Barracudas were street cars as well?

Some of the factory offerings were race cars offered to the public for racing purposes as well you know Monte!

Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 05:49 PM

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Here is quick "Rule of thumb" that I have employed for thirty years:

#1 "I Have the Quickest, Fastest, Street Car in the World!"
#2 Therefore any car slower than me may be deemed a street car.
#3 All cars faster than mine are very obviously race cars! If you don't agree, refer to #1!!!

Best definition yet !!

Posted By: Jeepmon

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 06:25 PM

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Politics aside.........What argument...........there is NO argument in this thread.......only opinion and everybody has a different one. A street car means many different things to many different people. If it has a plate, is legal in your state and you are willing to put up with the aggravation of driving it........it's a street car. What somebody else thinks.........who cares.

Monte

Naw... just because it has a license plate, does not make it a "street car" more like a race car that is driven on the streets..

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Posted By: 383man

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 06:28 PM

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According to some of you guys........a factory original 63 Max Wedge car, with the 13.1 motor, solid lifter, heater delete, wiper delete, manual steering, drum brake car, that you could buy off the dealer lot and drive home, is NOT a street car.........Sounds like some guys need to "sack up".........LOL!!!

Monte

I guess the '68 Hemi Darts and Barracudas were street cars as well?

Some of the factory offerings were race cars offered to the public for racing purposes as well you know Monte!

I will say all the Max Wedge cars were street legal and could be tagged and driven off the dealer lot. The 68 Hemi A-bodies could not. Ron

Posted By: Quicktree

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 06:37 PM

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According to some of you guys........a factory original 63 Max Wedge car, with the 13.1 motor, solid lifter, heater delete, wiper delete, manual steering, drum brake car, that you could buy off the dealer lot and drive home, is NOT a street car.........Sounds like some guys need to "sack up".........LOL!!!

Monte

I guess the '68 Hemi Darts and Barracudas were street cars as well?

Some of the factory offerings were race cars offered to the public for racing purposes as well you know Monte!

don't think they had vin numbers

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 06:39 PM

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I will say all the Max Wedge cars were street legal and could be tagged and driven off the dealer lot.

Not in CT brother, mandatory defrost/heat as long as I have been alive.

Isn't the first time Chrysler has run afoul of states laws. I think the Daytona's and Bird's had some issue in Maryland regarding bumpers and in CT they had to change the law so Vipers could be sold here.

Side exiting exhaust had been banned at some point.

I would generally agree though that the Max Wedge cars would generally be closer to a street car than a full race vehicle as most of the street characteristics are there. When you buy such a car you know what you are getting into though.

Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 07:23 PM

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I will say all the Max Wedge cars were street legal and could be tagged and driven off the dealer lot.

Not in CT brother, mandatory defrost/heat as long as I have been alive.

Isn't the first time Chrysler has run afoul of states laws. I think the Daytona's and Bird's had some issue in Maryland regarding bumpers and in CT they had to change the law so Vipers could be sold here.

Side exiting exhaust had been banned at some point.

I would generally agree though that the Max Wedge cars would generally be closer to a street car than a full race vehicle as most of the street characteristics are there. When you buy such a car you know what you are getting into though.

Hell, you could get a slant-6 dart with radio and heater delete. Guess that wasn't a street car either............damn, who knew............LOL!!!

Individual state laws don't matter. If the car is street legal as sold in ONE single state, then it's street legal. My 74 Challenger has had the smog stuff removed, other than that it's stone stock. Perfectly legal in my state, as we have no inspection. Other states, not so much............but that ain't my problem, because I live where I live and am not concerned with other states.

Somebody posted the pic of the dragster. Guy here in town has one. Put lights and turn signals on it. Tagged and insured. Just as easy to get a tag for that as a rail buggy with a VW motor here. Same thing, just longer...........LOL!!!! What about a T-bucket roadster? Plenty of those around

Monte

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 07:37 PM

As long as its got a vin tag... a vin tag is required
in ALL states... or you get a builders tag and in
that cases its inspected and required to have everything

Posted By: I_bleed_MOPAR

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 07:56 PM

Tim

Posted By: booger

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 07:57 PM

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don't think they had vin numbers

Hemi Darts and Barracudas? Sure they did. Look through this if you don't believe it. http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=13002

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 08:15 PM

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Individual state laws don't matter.

Unless of course you wanted to buy a Viper the first year in CT and it mattered very much.

In the north east if it is a true street car having a defroster *IS* a big deal. I tried driving without one and it was a stupid safety risk trying to drive with one hand while mopping the windshield with a towel in the other every minute or so.

Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 08:17 PM

To clarify the fuel thing: I would suggest that as long as your car will run on whats available, I think its within the definition. Its not a line at any compression or fuel type, its: "Can you fill up at the corner Esso Station?"

Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 08:41 PM

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Individual state laws don't matter.

Unless of course you wanted to buy a Viper the first year in CT and it mattered very much.

In the north east if it is a true street car having a defroster *IS* a big deal. I tried driving without one and it was a stupid safety risk trying to drive with one hand while mopping the windshield with a towel in the other every minute or so.

That may be........but what does that have to do with a "street car" in Arizona or southern California where it rarely gets below 50.....nothing.

People relate what is and isn't to their OWN comfort level. Guys ride hardtail Harley's thousands of miles. Is that any LESS of a street bike than a Goldwing. NO, just depends on your level of tolerance for comfort. Something like a T-bucket, has no heat, no air, no wipers, no fenders and sometimes no windshield. Yet guys drive them cross country in the rain and cold. Not my idea of comfort either, but no less of a street car. Same goes for a big n little, spool equipped, alum interior, jungle gym cage, roller cammed, gas guzzling monster. Maybe not YOUR idea of comfort, but it only really matters to the guy willing to pilot it around. Like I said, some of the "requirements" some on here are doling out would exclude MANY regular production cars made before the 70s. Think model A Fords were a blast to drive back then.......doubtful.

As stated earlier..........seems some need to just "sack up" if you think you GOTTA HAVE air, power steering, power brakes, power windows, an I-phone dock, 15 cupholders and all the comfort of home to make it a real street car. What if we take a modern pro-stocker, drop in a stone stock LS and a 4L80E. That would be as dependable as your everyday truck, but guess it doesn't LOOK the part. Try to look outside YOUR OWN comfort zone.

On the fuel thing, pretty much ANYTHING, even a high compression race motor will run down the road just fine on pump swill, provided you lower the timing and keep your foot out of it. Think "Pump Gas Drags" that HotRod put on. All the fast ones were just race motors, tuned to run on pump gas. Not hard to do.

Monte

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 08:54 PM

Totally agree Monte.

Most of the posters are WAY over-specifying the issue here.

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 09:16 PM

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That may be........but what does that have to do with a "street car" in Arizona or southern California where it rarely gets below 50.....nothing.

Look at the title of the thread, where does it state for a certain location?

Around here if you are actually into driving a car rather than a trailer queen or fair weather ride it is a requirement. I imagine trying to drive around Seattle might be a [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] too with no defrosters or wipers.

You get bagged by the man without it you get ticketed and inspection which can open up another can of worms and God help you if there is an incident and you are blamed for having faulty or no equipment.

Different location, different requirements.

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 09:20 PM

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That may be........but what does that have to do with a "street car" in Arizona or southern California where it rarely gets below 50.....nothing.

Look at the title of the thread, where does it state for a certain location?

Around here if you are actually into driving a car rather than a trailer queen or fair weather ride it is a requirement. I imagine trying to drive around Seattle might be a [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] too with no defrosters or wipers.

You get bagged by the man without it you get ticketed and inspection which can open up another can of worms and God help you if there is an incident and you are blamed for having faulty or no equipment.

Different location, different requirements.

In Seattle there are some that rely on Rain-X on street cars without wipers and do just fine. Not for a DAILY DRIVER but that's not what this thread is about.

Posted By: dOrk !

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 09:20 PM

Let me add this .......

Back in the day ......when Jimmy Addison had a target on his back .... he would "drive" these pure race-car challengers by the police station ... through semi-heavy traffic and last but not least ... out 25 or 30 miles on the interstate. THEN he warmed his tires and was ready. Many of the so-called streeters wanted to open headers, change plugs or even do massive rosin burn-outs ..... no no

Posted By: justinp61

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 09:29 PM

Maybe we should classify our cars by percentages, my car is xx% street car

. Hell, that wouldn't work either because there would be some guy say that my explanation of percentages were not the same as his so mine can't be a street car

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Honestly, WHAT DOES IT MATTER? All that matters to me is that I'm out driving and enjoying my car, period! I don't give a rats a$$ what someone else thanks of it.

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 09:35 PM

I met a guy that drives an Ariel Atom. Definately a street car, yet there are race cars that are more 'streetable' than that in some respects. Same with a Caterham.

Posted By: RemCharger

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 10:25 PM

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To clarify the fuel thing: I would suggest that as long as your car will run on whats available, I think its within the definition. Its not a line at any compression or fuel type, its: "Can you fill up at the corner Esso Station?"

What if you have a brand preference?....ie; I prefer vp, and therefore stock some at home. And if I want to go far I bring some extra.?

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 10:38 PM

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To clarify the fuel thing: I would suggest that as long as your car will run on whats available, I think its within the definition. Its not a line at any compression or fuel type, its: "Can you fill up at the corner Esso Station?"

What if you have a brand preference?....ie; I prefer vp, and therefore stock some at home. And if I want to go far I bring some extra.?

I guess you can drag a trailer with a drum of fuel

Posted By: RemCharger

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 11:07 PM

Ha I was thinking more like some jerry cans. I consider street driving as just that. Not extended highway trips.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/14/15 11:23 PM

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Ha I was thinking more like some jerry cans. I consider street driving as just that. Not extended highway trips.

The guys on DW that were hauling fuel(for what ever
reason) were hauling drums but we had to travel maybe
400 miles in a day and they had enough for a week

Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 12:07 AM

Most of the Drag Week guys drive on pump gas and carry fuel for the track. I know the guys from Canada with the Vette drive that car everywhere on pump swill and that is a 14.1 race motor. They put C-23 in it for the track. Think they brought 20 gallons of race fuel.

As for arguing the point about state laws........that ONLY matters if you live there. My car is legal in my state, that's all that counts. Not like another state is going to write me a ticket because I don't have a defroster when I drive through there, nor will my car have to pass a sniff test to be allowed in California if I choose to drive it there.

So gdonovan, are you telling that if I live in your state, I can't tag a sand rail type rig, or a T-bucket, an older classic, street rod, or some other such vehicle because it doesn't have a defroster..........ummm, OK.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 12:56 AM

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Most of the Drag Week guys drive on pump gas and carry fuel for the track. I know the guys from Canada with the Vette drive that car everywhere on pump swill and that is a 14.1 race motor. They put C-23 in it for the track. Think they brought 20 gallons of race fuel.

As for arguing the point about state laws........that ONLY matters if you live there. My car is legal in my state, that's all that counts. Not like another state is going to write me a ticket because I don't have a defroster when I drive through there, nor will my car have to pass a sniff test to be allowed in California if I choose to drive it there.

So gdonovan, are you telling that if I live in your state, I can't tag a sand rail type rig, or a T-bucket, an older classic, street rod, or some other such vehicle because it doesn't have a defroster..........ummm, OK.

I didnt go last year but the year before there was a
couple of guys hauling at least 1 drum of fuel...
you are correct.. all you have to do is pass what
is legal in the state that the car is registered in..
any other state doesnt matter
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I dont have a defoster in my Rampage other than a
portable unit that plugs into the cig lighter... I
have a heater unit but I havent put it in yet

Posted By: plycuda

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 12:58 AM

if you have antique tags there is no inspection here. so if I decide to go for a ride in my junk predator head 14 to 1 900 inch lift cam with 2 foggers I can because I have tags and insurance and all lights and windows. If your out for a ride I guess your slow real street car will get mopped

Posted By: Sport440

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 02:30 AM

Im old school and know the True definition of a Street car.

Its a car that you would normally drive to work, vacation, shopping, or sunday drive. A lot of factory produced performance cars can be considered street cars as well. Mustang GT 500,s to even the hellcat challenger.

Why, they can drive like normal docile "street cars" like they were intended to do.

Without detuning.

Now whats Not a street car, are the highly modified, high compression, race gas, blown, nitrous fed, high stall vert etc modified combos.

That just because, you put mufflers on them and a get a tag for them makes them a Street car.

They are not! They are Simply, Race cars driven on the street. Period

Tags and Muffs, Do no not =Equal a street car on a Race car driven on the street.

I don't fool myself, I know the difference. Even my slow ride, is not Truly a Street car anymore.

Nor do I feel the need to Convince others that it is a street car because I can tag it and drive it on the street.

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 02:41 AM

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So gdonovan, are you telling that if I live in your state, I can't tag a sand rail type rig, or a T-bucket, an older classic, street rod, or some other such vehicle because it doesn't have a defroster..........ummm, OK.

Depends- I can tell you for sure if you show up with a sand rail you will be pulled over, ticketed and the vehicle towed. Happened several years ago to a buddy of mine who towed it up from Arkansas.

Was bizarre riding around in the thing watching the road going by under the "floor" which was just mesh decking.

The police were NOT amused, they did not give a toot it was plated out of state. They made it abundantly clear if it was seen on the road again there was a pair of bracelets in someones future.

Hey I have been peened by other states laws. I was in MASS and got pulled over by a state trooper on the interstate and had to abandon my tow dolly.

No plates required in CT, they are in MASS. I snuck back under cover of darkness and dragged it home.

T-buckets may fall under antique plates since I'm assuming they are 30's vintage.

Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 04:16 AM

My take is as long as it passes a state safety inspection and ANYBODY can get in and dive it 100 miles then it's a street car. That being said my car wouldn't meet my standard criteria

I've had to teach people how to shift a V-gate with face-plate non-syncronized gears

My heater valve started leaking on the gas pedal so out went the heater til I get the valve fixed.

I still think it's a street car that runs tens on pump gas

Gus

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Posted By: plycuda

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 04:37 AM

if it doesn't have a 8 3/4 and a six pack scoop I don't consider it a real street car either

Posted By: Sport440

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 04:42 AM

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My take is as long as it passes a state safety inspection and ANYBODY can get in and drive it 100 miles then it's a street car.
Gus

If you cant toss the keys to "ANYBODY" granny/ grampa/father/mom or your kid to run down the street for whatever.

Its Not a street car

Posted By: Hemi Allstate

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 05:00 AM

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My take is as long as it passes a state safety inspection and ANYBODY can get in and drive it 100 miles then it's a street car.
Gus

If you cant toss the keys to "ANYBODY" granny/ grampa/father/mom or your kid to run down the street for whatever.

Its Not a street car

I don't think I would toss the keys to a Hell Cat to just anyone, and that is probably a pretty well accepted example of a "street car"!

Mark

Posted By: 6PAK70CUDA

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 05:43 AM

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Ha I was thinking more like some jerry cans. I consider street driving as just that. Not extended highway trips.

The guys on DW that were hauling fuel(for what ever
reason) were hauling drums but we had to travel maybe
400 miles in a day and they had enough for a week

Doesn't Sunoco still sell CAM 2 112 at certain stations at the pump? I remember filling up at the Nats in Columbus years ago.

Posted By: 383man

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 07:11 AM

Ok I figured out the biggest thing that makes a car a street car. It has to start with a key like mine does ! So I know mine is a street car.

Ron

Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 07:35 AM

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if you have antique tags there is no inspection here. so if I decide to go for a ride in my junk predator head 14 to 1 900 inch lift cam with 2 foggers I can because I have tags and insurance and all lights and windows. If your out for a ride I guess your slow real street car will get mopped

This be fish killer, did you fix the front end wiggle? I hear Ray bought your Charger.

Posted By: moparclown

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 02:30 PM

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What about cars that didn't have heat from the factory?

I know now some states its mandatory, your state may or may not. Last time I got an inspection several years ago they did check.

Never heard a thing about heat/defroster being needed here in CT.
I do VIN verifications on cars all the time that come here from other states and have never had that on the checklist?

Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 03:47 PM

My definition,

Can be driven on the street and has the paperwork to do so. Can drive near law enforcement without sweating too bad LOL.

I have done three drag weeks and I am amazed at what cops don't care about. Non DOT tires, no exhaust system, fender exit headers, LOUD....none of it seems to stir up much trouble. I would love to be a fly on the wall in some of these small towns when these cars roll through, especially late at night.

Example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv-ahRGwsOw

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 03:55 PM

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Never heard a thing about heat/defroster being needed here in CT. I do VIN verifications on cars all the time that come here from other states and have never had that on the checklist?

When DMV was doing the inspections it was something that was done all the time. Ive had dozens of vehicles inspected by DMV over the years, usually in New London when they were open and then Norwich later. The inspector would ask for the blower to be turned on, feel for airflow and move on.

Here it is noted as having to be checked if a vehicle is taken to the main office for inspection for salvage title-

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/LIB/dmv/20/29/b-256.pdf

Here it is noted for commercial vehicle inspection-

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/lib/dmv/R-361.pdf

From the CT DMV page-

Sec. 14-275a-39. Defrosters

(a) Defrosting and defogging equipment shall direct a sufficient flow of heated air onto the windshield, the window to the left of the driver and the glass in the viewing area directly to the right of the driver to eliminate frost, fog and snow.

(b) The defrosting system shall conform to SAE J381 and SAE J382.

(c) The defroster and defogging system shall be capable of furnishing heated, outside ambient air, except that the part of the system furnishing additional air to the windshield, entrance door and step well may be of the re-circulating air type.

(d) Auxiliary fans are not considered defrosting or defogging systems.

(e) Portable heaters shall not be utilized.

Maybe they let it slide now that "inspections" are being done by outside contractors, I don't know. When we were sending cars up for used car inspection at the dealer level to Norwich (2002-2005) it was also something that was checked at the time at the Norwich office.

Posted By: moparclown

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 04:16 PM

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Never heard a thing about heat/defroster being needed here in CT. I do VIN verifications on cars all the time that come here from other states and have never had that on the checklist?

When DMV was doing the inspections it was something that was done all the time. Ive had dozens of vehicles inspected by DMV over the years, usually in New London when they were open and then Norwich later. The inspector would ask for the blower to be turned on, feel for airflow and move on.

Here it is noted as having to be checked if a vehicle is taken to the main office for inspection for salvage title-

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/LIB/dmv/20/29/b-256.pdf

Here it is noted for commercial vehicle inspection-

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/lib/dmv/R-361.pdf

From the CT DMV page-

Sec. 14-275a-39. Defrosters

(a) Defrosting and defogging equipment shall direct a sufficient flow of heated air onto the windshield, the window to the left of the driver and the glass in the viewing area directly to the right of the driver to eliminate frost, fog and snow.

(b) The defrosting system shall conform to SAE J381 and SAE J382.

(c) The defroster and defogging system shall be capable of furnishing heated, outside ambient air, except that the part of the system furnishing additional air to the windshield, entrance door and step well may be of the re-circulating air type.

(d) Auxiliary fans are not considered defrosting or defogging systems.

(e) Portable heaters shall not be utilized.

Maybe they let it slide now that "inspections" are being done by outside contractors, I don't know. When we were sending cars up for used car inspection at the dealer level to Norwich (2002-2005) it was also something that was checked at the time at the Norwich office.

A lot has changed but still that is good info as I find myself defending myself quite often as they have 3 cameras watching and listening

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 04:36 PM

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A lot has changed but still that is good info as I find myself defending myself quite often as they have 3 cameras watching and listening

DMV in CT has some of the most inept people on the states payroll.

My buddy just purchased a new Ram van for his business out of state and went to the DMV to get it plated. The idiot and supervisor insisted behind the counter he had to pay the taxes on the $4500 rebate and would not let him get it plated unless he did so.

So he coughs up an extra $300 bucks and heads home.

The next morning he is back with a print out from the states own dept of revenue services website indicating DMV is wrong. The supervisor tells him "oh so sorry we can't give you your money back that was yesterdays business and you will have to file for a refund" and wait 5 weeks.

WTF.

Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 05:14 PM

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So gdonovan, are you telling that if I live in your state, I can't tag a sand rail type rig, or a T-bucket, an older classic, street rod, or some other such vehicle because it doesn't have a defroster..........ummm, OK.

Depends- I can tell you for sure if you show up with a sand rail you will be pulled over, ticketed and the vehicle towed. Happened several years ago to a buddy of mine who towed it up from Arkansas.

Was bizarre riding around in the thing watching the road going by under the "floor" which was just mesh decking.

The police were NOT amused, they did not give a toot it was plated out of state. They made it abundantly clear if it was seen on the road again there was a pair of bracelets in someones future.

Hey I have been peened by other states laws. I was in MASS and got pulled over by a state trooper on the interstate and had to abandon my tow dolly.

No plates required in CT, they are in MASS. I snuck back under cover of darkness and dragged it home.

T-buckets may fall under antique plates since I'm assuming they are 30's vintage.

I would have likely gone to jail then. Because I am NOT the type, that "because I say so" is a good enough answer for me. I would want specifics as to WHY the vehicle was not legal. I would imagine if you had a Baja Bug, with clipped fenders, exposed motor, no bumpers etc, that would likely be fine, yet the sand rail isn't. I would want to know WHY..........Don't sound like CT is the place for me............LOL!!!

Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 05:40 PM

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My take is as long as it passes a state safety inspection and ANYBODY can get in and drive it 100 miles then it's a street car.
Gus

If you cant toss the keys to "ANYBODY" granny/ grampa/father/mom or your kid to run down the street for whatever.

Its Not a street car

Nope, that don't work either. I can toss the keys for my dually to my girlfriend and she would toss them right back, because she can't drive a straight shift............LOL!!! Also, the first time she drove my Mercedes, she didn't know how to start it. So having to "show" somebody how to drive something is no deal breaker. Bet several on here can't drive my 60s vintage, twin stick Mack without some instruction.........LOL!!!

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 05:44 PM

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I would have likely gone to jail then. Because I am NOT the type, that "because I say so" is a good enough answer for me. I would want specifics as to WHY the vehicle was not legal. I would imagine if you had a Baja Bug, with clipped fenders, exposed motor, no bumpers etc, that would likely be fine, yet the sand rail isn't. I would want to know WHY..........Don't sound like CT is the place for me............LOL!!!

No fenders and exposed engine were just two of the issues.

It was a SAND RAIL that had been plated out of state very much like the one in the picture attached except with a VW air cooled engine.

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Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 05:45 PM

And BTW? Arguing with the police on the side of the road is rarely productive in my experience, usually just the opposite.

Posted By: Quicktree

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 05:48 PM

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I would have likely gone to jail then. Because I am NOT the type, that "because I say so" is a good enough answer for me. I would want specifics as to WHY the vehicle was not legal. I would imagine if you had a Baja Bug, with clipped fenders, exposed motor, no bumpers etc, that would likely be fine, yet the sand rail isn't. I would want to know WHY..........Don't sound like CT is the place for me............LOL!!!

No fenders and exposed engine were just two of the issues.

It was a SAND RAIL that had been plated out of state very much like the one in the picture attached except with a VW air cooled engine.

those are totally legal down here, I think they make them have some sort of windshield. because CT is screwed up doesn't mean the rest of the world is. and it surely doesn't dictate what a street car is.

Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 05:51 PM

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I would have likely gone to jail then. Because I am NOT the type, that "because I say so" is a good enough answer for me. I would want specifics as to WHY the vehicle was not legal. I would imagine if you had a Baja Bug, with clipped fenders, exposed motor, no bumpers etc, that would likely be fine, yet the sand rail isn't. I would want to know WHY..........Don't sound like CT is the place for me............LOL!!!

No fenders and exposed engine were just two of the issues.

It was a SAND RAIL that had been plated out of state very much like the one in the picture attached except with a VW air cooled engine.

Yep, those are NO problem here. Had one just like that when I was younger, minus the paddle tires of course. So in your state, no "rails", no "Baja bugs", no Marx Manx dune buggies, no bucket roadsters(if fenders are a requirement)....wonder what the rule is on a jacked up jeep with tires hanging out and clipped front fenders. Sounds like they need to change the state abbreviation to NF(no fun).............LOL!!!

The hot thing around here now is the "crawling buggys". Those tube frame deals sitting on 50" tires, with big blocks and loads of power. See them everywhere. Guys build them for rock crawling and trail riding. Used to see them on trailers all the time, going to the trails. Now you see them all over the street without a scratch. So you KNOW they have seen no rocks.

Posted By: Quicktree

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 06:00 PM

not talking about the tires, they wouldn't last 10 minutes even if they were legal

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 06:43 PM

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those are totally legal down here, I think they make them have some sort of windshield. because CT is screwed up doesn't mean the rest of the world is. and it surely doesn't dictate what a street car is.

Again, the question asked was "what the hell is a street car" not "what the hell is a street car in arizona/texas/alabama"

It is what it is and we work around it as best able.

The rail picture is just one found on the net, the car that got bagged here had a windshield, DOT tires and a hand operated wiper.

Posted By: justinp61

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 07:11 PM

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I would have likely gone to jail then. Because I am NOT the type, that "because I say so" is a good enough answer for me. I would want specifics as to WHY the vehicle was not legal. I would imagine if you had a Baja Bug, with clipped fenders, exposed motor, no bumpers etc, that would likely be fine, yet the sand rail isn't. I would want to know WHY..........Don't sound like CT is the place for me............LOL!!!

No fenders and exposed engine were just two of the issues.

It was a SAND RAIL that had been plated out of state very much like the one in the picture attached except with a VW air cooled engine.

How the heck do guys in your states get by riding motorcycles? I'm proud I don't live in the communists regions you guys do.

Posted By: Duner

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 07:27 PM

Well there we have it.

A street car is a different thing to different people from different places around the world.

If your definition doesn't agree with my definition - you must be wrong! LOL

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 09:30 PM

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How the heck do guys in your states get by riding motorcycles? I'm proud I don't live in the communists regions you guys do.

I'm stuck here till my daughter is an adult, then heading south. The state is full of busybodies who can't mind their own damn business.

The odd things about bikes is almost anything goes. No helmet law though they try again every few years. I'd don't wear one myself as I don't like the restriction of hearing and vision.

Posted By: one bad fish

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 10:08 PM

[image]http://

[/image] This is a street car wipers lights lighter

lol

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 10:14 PM

How the heck do guys in your states get by riding motorcycles? I'm proud I don't live in the communists regions you guys do.

Simple... its LAW here you have to have glasses/sunglasses
on.. even without a helmet on a cycle

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 10:44 PM

This debate has been going on forever

I have my car 28 years now.When I 1st bought it,it was a max wedge look-a-like.The word clone,recreation or tribute did not exsist in the automotive world.It has ALWAYS been street driven and has morphed into what it is now,,,,whatever that might be.Driven several thousand miles a year in fair weather only.In my opinion,it's a street car

Posted By: justinp61

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 11:09 PM

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How the heck do guys in your states get by riding motorcycles? I'm proud I don't live in the communists regions you guys do.

Simple... its LAW here you have to have glasses/sunglasses
on.. even without a helmet on a cycle

No windshield, seatbelt, wipers, heater, defroster or mufflers? Can't be a street bike.

Posted By: Quicktree

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 11:34 PM

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How the heck do guys in your states get by riding motorcycles? I'm proud I don't live in the communists regions you guys do.

I'm stuck here till my daughter is an adult, then heading south. The state is full of busybodies who can't mind their own damn business.

The odd things about bikes is almost anything goes. No helmet law though they try again every few years. I'd don't wear one myself as I don't like the restriction of hearing and vision.

the south is full, stay up there.

Posted By: Spaceman Spiff

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/15/15 11:43 PM

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How the heck do guys in your states get by riding motorcycles? I'm proud I don't live in the communists regions you guys do.

I'm stuck here till my daughter is an adult, then heading south. The state is full of busybodies who can't mind their own damn business.

The odd things about bikes is almost anything goes. No helmet law though they try again every few years. I'd don't wear one myself as I don't like the restriction of hearing and vision.

When your state law says that no part of the engine shall be higher than the hoodline, will your GTX no longer be a street car?

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/16/15 02:19 AM

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When your state law says that no part of the engine shall be higher than the hoodline, will your GTX no longer be a street car?

Not sure what the law is on the tunnel ram in CT, never been hassled for it but I didn't go through vehicle inspection with it like that either!

Back when they had annual state emissions testing in the 90's I did go through a few times before the program was dropped and the inspectors never gave me a problem. Man did I have to go through some gymnastics to get the car to pass, good thing we had an emissions test machine back at the shop.

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/16/15 02:26 AM

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the south is full, stay up there.

KY/TN for me, beautiful land with good people. Have some damn fine friends there and I can't wait to go if the opportunity presents itself.

A lot of folks up here are shallow as a cookie sheet and rude as hell not to mention the state government sticking its nose in your business and robbing you blind.

This state is a lost cause, the unfunded liabilities are off the scale and the party in power carries on like its 1999. The job market has been stagnate for 20 years (that is not a typo) and these fools just keep doing the same thing over and over.

Posted By: moparclown

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/16/15 03:07 AM

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the south is full, stay up there.

KY/TN for me, beautiful land with good people. Have some damn fine friends there and I can't wait to go if the opportunity presents itself.

A lot of folks up here are shallow as a cookie sheet and rude as hell not to mention the state government sticking its nose in your business and robbing you blind.

This state is a lost cause, the unfunded liabilities are off the scale and the party in power carries on like its 1999. The job market has been stagnate for 20 years (that is not a typo) and these fools just keep doing the same thing over and over.

My daughter will graduate in three years and I would like out myself.
As far as my opinion is about whether or not its a street car, If you can insure it and tag it in your state I say have at it. Cars to me should be driven and if its safe and that means for everyone (not just the driver)Then I say bring it out and let all enjoy seeing it.
I drive mine all the time when the weather is good(street car that goes to the track when I can afford the time and $$$)

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Posted By: I_bleed_MOPAR

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/16/15 12:48 PM

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the south is full, stay up there.

KY/TN for me, beautiful land with good people. Have some damn fine friends there and I can't wait to go if the opportunity presents itself.

A lot of folks up here are shallow as a cookie sheet and rude as hell not to mention the state government sticking its nose in your business and robbing you blind.

This state is a lost cause, the unfunded liabilities are off the scale and the party in power carries on like its 1999. The job market has been stagnate for 20 years (that is not a typo) and these fools just keep doing the same thing over and over.

Still room for a couple more car guys.

Be sure and bring the K-car- we could make a little money at Commerce.

Tim

Posted By: Airwoofer

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/16/15 04:28 PM

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You would never drive a high HP car in the rain so why the wipers? Pump gas, why does anyone care what kind of gas you are using in your ride? Pump E85? Pump 110 like they have at a nearby station?

I think your questions actually address the core of this debate; and can be answered as follows:

-If you cant drive your car in the rain, Or WOULDN'T because it's just too high strung for those conditions, then its not a street car.

How many "street and show" Mopars never even see a puddle, much less rain? I call BS on needing to be able to drive in a monsoon. My "street legal" car has way too much under the right foot for wet roads, especially with DOT DRs.

-If you cant drive a few hundred miles in any direction and be assured you're going to find fuel to fill up on at any pump? Then its not a street car. On the west side of the country E-85 is pretty scarce. So, my opinion is that if your car is an E-85 only deal, then its not a street car. If it's flex fuel, and can run on either without swapping to a different carb, then okay.

I have no need to drive my hotrod that far. Not in it's mission profile. It gets me 20 out and 20 back that covers most of where I need to go. 10 gallons don't go far when you get into the throttle.

It's not a matter of who cares what you run in the tank or whether you have wipers, its a matter of can you pull your car out of the garage and put it through normal street duty routines safely and legally.

And then line up against a more racy car and tell us how it worked out. As far as I am concerned, the street car classes at tracks are targeting faster cars and I am sure the spectators like seeing <7 sec cars a lot more than hard tire 8 sec cars.

Posted By: Airwoofer

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/16/15 04:48 PM

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I would have likely gone to jail then. Because I am NOT the type, that "because I say so" is a good enough answer for me. I would want specifics as to WHY the vehicle was not legal. I would imagine if you had a Baja Bug, with clipped fenders, exposed motor, no bumpers etc, that would likely be fine, yet the sand rail isn't. I would want to know WHY..........Don't sound like CT is the place for me............LOL!!!

No fenders and exposed engine were just two of the issues.

It was a SAND RAIL that had been plated out of state very much like the one in the picture attached except with a VW air cooled engine.

Yep, those are NO problem here. Had one just like that when I was younger, minus the paddle tires of course. So in your state, no "rails", no "Baja bugs", no Marx Manx dune buggies, no bucket roadsters(if fenders are a requirement)....wonder what the rule is on a jacked up jeep with tires hanging out and clipped front fenders. Sounds like they need to change the state abbreviation to NF(no fun).............LOL!!!

The hot thing around here now is the "crawling buggys". Those tube frame deals sitting on 50" tires, with big blocks and loads of power. See them everywhere. Guys build them for rock crawling and trail riding. Used to see them on trailers all the time, going to the trails. Now you see them all over the street without a scratch. So you KNOW they have seen no rocks.

Ya know Monte, maybe we should clam up about AL street laws. The last thing we need down here is a bunch of CT minded people moving in and next thing we know a false flag school shooting is staged and our guns get outlawed.

Sorry folks, but after checking in to this any car that has any mods is highly illegal in AL. And there are so many skeeters you HAVE to have wipers and fluid (not for the meth injection) to see out of your inspection tagged windshield.

IMO the cops are more concerned about how you drive instead of what you drive.

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/16/15 05:22 PM

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The last thing we need down here is a bunch of CT minded people moving in

Ah see thats were your wrong- If I was CT minded I would not wish to leave. The problem is I'm NOT liberal in the least. Very old school Yankee who thinks ATF should be a convenience store and not a federal agency.

Posted By: tsanchez

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/16/15 05:27 PM

http://vid192.photobucket.com/albums/z22...zps69afd203.mp4

Posted By: Harley

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/16/15 11:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGwxmhqI478

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/16/15 11:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ezs1g5wAo

Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 12:02 AM

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http://vid192.photobucket.com/albums/z22...zps69afd203.mp4

Don't think I would like driving in that rain.

Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 05:35 AM

So after starting this thread hoping to obtain a Moparts definition of a "street car", I'm now more convinced than ever that we won't be able to do it. Drag week does a good job of it, so it can be done. Just not here. Its a fun discussion though, so lets continue.

Posted By: BBR

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 03:13 PM

My definition: Must have t-tops and a trailer hitch and I'm sticking to that!

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Posted By: tsanchez

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 04:08 PM

Have trailer hitch will travel...

Must check valves in parking lot..

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 05:12 PM

if you need to pull a trailer to carry clothes and tools it is not a street car. your only allowed to pull a boat if you have a trailer hitch

Posted By: BBR

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 05:28 PM

Want > need.

but you don't count because you don't have t-tops or a hitch!!!

Posted By: skicker

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 05:41 PM

If the only way to get both is in a Mustang I guess I'm fortunate to never have either...

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 05:48 PM

I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

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Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 06:14 PM

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if you need to pull a trailer to carry clothes and tools it is not a street car.

Which is more the street car?

The one pulling a trailer or the one ON the trailer.

heh.

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 06:40 PM

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if you need to pull a trailer to carry clothes and tools it is not a street car.

Which is more the street car?

The one pulling a trailer or the one ON the trailer.

heh.

I don't even own a trailer

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 07:00 PM

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I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

YOU BETTER HAVE A BOAT!!!!!!!

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 07:02 PM

A lot of my Friends brag they don't own trailers either. I sure wish they would lose my phone number sometimes when their junk breaks down.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 07:16 PM

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I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

YOU BETTER HAVE A BOAT!!!!!!!

Yes I have a boat... 4 of them... what does that matter..
I have 11 trailers also... oh.. make that 12 now
that I built the one that I WILL drag behind this thing

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 08:22 PM

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I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

YOU BETTER HAVE A BOAT!!!!!!!

Yes I have a boat... 4 of them... what does that matter..
I have 11 trailers also... oh.. make that 12 now
that I built the one that I WILL drag behind this thing

not a street car

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 08:29 PM

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I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

YOU BETTER HAVE A BOAT!!!!!!!

Yes I have a boat... 4 of them... what does that matter..
I have 11 trailers also... oh.. make that 12 now
that I built the one that I WILL drag behind this thing

not a street car

Ya.. right.. about the same as yours.. I'm just lazy
and dont like unpacking

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 09:24 PM

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I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

YOU BETTER HAVE A BOAT!!!!!!!

Yes I have a boat... 4 of them... what does that matter..
I have 11 trailers also... oh.. make that 12 now
that I built the one that I WILL drag behind this thing

not a street car

Ya.. right.. about the same as yours.. I'm just lazy
and dont like unpacking

yours is a tube chassis strut car with a hitch without a bumper sticker. Not even close to being a street car.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 09:30 PM

yours is a tube chassis strut car with a hitch without a bumper sticker. Not even close to being a street car.

So what... its just safer than yours.. I dont do stickers

Posted By: Paul_Fancsali

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 10:04 PM

A street car is one that can be driven on virtually any pump gas, sit and idle in heavy traffic for hours without overheating be driven in rain or snowy weather and still function Real street ca5rs have heaters wipers and can be run for 3+ hours without having to stop for fuel They need to be reasonably quiet and have as seat that is tolerable for a hour or more at a time. Cars that require a more then 1 stop for repairs are not true street cars and cars with slicks do not qualify as really street worthy and pass Pa inspection{ Not Emission}

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 10:09 PM

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yours is a tube chassis strut car with a hitch without a bumper sticker. Not even close to being a street car.

So what... its just safer than yours.. I dont do stickers

So what does your race car weight anyway?

Posted By: BradH

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 10:26 PM

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A street car is one that can be driven on virtually any pump gas, sit and idle in heavy traffic for hours without overheating be driven in rain or snowy weather and still function Real street ca5rs have heaters wipers and can be run for 3+ hours without having to stop for fuel They need to be reasonably quiet and have as seat that is tolerable for a hour or more at a time. Cars that require a more then 1 stop for repairs are not true street cars and cars with slicks do not qualify as really street worthy and pass Pa inspection{ Not Emission}

Mine must be a street car, 'cuz I hurt the engine driving it home from the track.

Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 10:43 PM

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A street car is one that can be driven on virtually any pump gas, sit and idle in heavy traffic for hours without overheating be driven in rain or snowy weather and still function Real street ca5rs have heaters wipers and can be run for 3+ hours without having to stop for fuel They need to be reasonably quiet and have as seat that is tolerable for a hour or more at a time. Cars that require a more then 1 stop for repairs are not true street cars and cars with slicks do not qualify as really street worthy and pass Pa inspection{ Not Emission}

Is this a joke? My dodge durango won't drive 3 hours straight without needing to fill up.

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 10:49 PM

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A street car is one that can be driven on virtually any pump gas, sit and idle in heavy traffic for hours without overheating be driven in rain or snowy weather and still function Real street ca5rs have heaters wipers and can be run for 3+ hours without having to stop for fuel They need to be reasonably quiet and have as seat that is tolerable for a hour or more at a time. Cars that require a more then 1 stop for repairs are not true street cars and cars with slicks do not qualify as really street worthy and pass Pa inspection{ Not Emission}

Is this a joke? My dodge durango won't drive 3 hours straight without needing to fill up.

It has to be a joke, not one thing about bumper stickers

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 10:52 PM

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yours is a tube chassis strut car with a hitch without a bumper sticker. Not even close to being a street car.

So what... its just safer than yours.. I dont do stickers

So what does your race car weight anyway?

My race car weighs 2400... my street rod weighs 2920
with me in it in both cases and a full tank of 87
octane.. thats 18 gals... oh and thats with the hitch

Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/17/15 11:25 PM

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yours is a tube chassis strut car with a hitch without a bumper sticker. Not even close to being a street car.

So what... its just safer than yours.. I dont do stickers

So what does your race car weight anyway?

My race car weighs 2400... my street rod weighs 2920
with me in it in both cases and a full tank of 87
octane.. thats 18 gals... oh and thats with the hitch

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 01:26 AM

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yours is a tube chassis strut car with a hitch without a bumper sticker. Not even close to being a street car.

So what... its just safer than yours.. I dont do stickers

So what does your race car weight anyway?

My race car weighs 2400... my street rod weighs 2920
with me in it in both cases and a full tank of 87
octane.. thats 18 gals... oh and thats with the hitch

Damn thats light

Posted By: Lee446

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 04:51 AM

My definition of a true street car has always been simple, with only a change of rear tires, it can be driven legally on a road trip across the country, under average conditions, including rain or light snow, on whatever pump gas that is available along the highway. That is how I have always built my cars and have driven them on two Power Tours and many trips to Woodward Ave. from Houston. But I am a weenie who also requires A/C for them too!

Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 07:08 AM

Apparently my Mercedes is NOT a street car.........because I damn sure ain't driving it in the snow and let some fool run over it.............LOL!!!

Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 07:11 AM

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A street car is one that can be driven on virtually any pump gas, sit and idle in heavy traffic for hours without overheating be driven in rain or snowy weather and still function Real street ca5rs have heaters wipers and can be run for 3+ hours without having to stop for fuel They need to be reasonably quiet and have as seat that is tolerable for a hour or more at a time. Cars that require a more then 1 stop for repairs are not true street cars and cars with slicks do not qualify as really street worthy and pass Pa inspection{ Not Emission}

Is this a joke? My dodge durango won't drive 3 hours straight without needing to fill up.

No kidding.........neither will my dually, nor my old CJ-5.

Monte

Posted By: BBR

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 03:04 PM

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I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

Ain't nothing better than popping the tops and going for a cruise!!

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Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 03:47 PM

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A street car is one that can be driven on virtually any pump gas, sit and idle in heavy traffic for hours without overheating be driven in rain or snowy weather and still function Real street ca5rs have heaters wipers and can be run for 3+ hours without having to stop for fuel They need to be reasonably quiet and have as seat that is tolerable for a hour or more at a time. Cars that require a more then 1 stop for repairs are not true street cars and cars with slicks do not qualify as really street worthy and pass Pa inspection{ Not Emission}

Is this a joke? My dodge durango won't drive 3 hours straight without needing to fill up.

No kidding.........neither will my dually, nor my old CJ-5.

Monte

You have a lot of toys for someone that claims he can't afford to build a mopar motor

Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 05:48 PM

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A street car is one that can be driven on virtually any pump gas, sit and idle in heavy traffic for hours without overheating be driven in rain or snowy weather and still function Real street ca5rs have heaters wipers and can be run for 3+ hours without having to stop for fuel They need to be reasonably quiet and have as seat that is tolerable for a hour or more at a time. Cars that require a more then 1 stop for repairs are not true street cars and cars with slicks do not qualify as really street worthy and pass Pa inspection{ Not Emission}

Is this a joke? My dodge durango won't drive 3 hours straight without needing to fill up.

No kidding.........neither will my dually, nor my old CJ-5.

Monte

You have a lot of toys for someone that claims he can't afford to build a mopar motor

Two things.......For one, yes I do have "toys". A few older cars, a Harley, a Jeep, Jetboat, a Gator, lots of guns and my "driver" is an E-class AMG Benz. And I enjoy them all. I am 52 and have collected a lot of "stuff" over the years. Now, could I sell a bunch of my stuff to afford to build the motor I want, maybe, but I don't WANT to. I enjoy my life and my job revolves entirely around cars and racing, but I DON'T want my WHOLE life to revolve around that...........Secondly and this has been covered at nauseum. Point me to where I can buy the Mopar parts I need for a motor like I want. No need for anybody to post up the Sonny's pics........that's a HEMI. I want a wedge.

Any other observations Ray.........LOL!!!

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 07:13 PM

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A street car is one that can be driven on virtually any pump gas, sit and idle in heavy traffic for hours without overheating be driven in rain or snowy weather and still function Real street ca5rs have heaters wipers and can be run for 3+ hours without having to stop for fuel They need to be reasonably quiet and have as seat that is tolerable for a hour or more at a time. Cars that require a more then 1 stop for repairs are not true street cars and cars with slicks do not qualify as really street worthy and pass Pa inspection{ Not Emission}

Is this a joke? My dodge durango won't drive 3 hours straight without needing to fill up.

No kidding.........neither will my dually, nor my old CJ-5.

Monte

You have a lot of toys for someone that claims he can't afford to build a mopar motor

Two things.......For one, yes I do have "toys". A few older cars, a Harley, a Jeep, Jetboat, a Gator, lots of guns and my "driver" is an E-class AMG Benz. And I enjoy them all. I am 52 and have collected a lot of "stuff" over the years. Now, could I sell a bunch of my stuff to afford to build the motor I want, maybe, but I don't WANT to. I enjoy my life and my job revolves entirely around cars and racing, but I DON'T want my WHOLE life to revolve around that...........Secondly and this has been covered at nauseum. Point me to where I can buy the Mopar parts I need for a motor like I want. No need for anybody to post up the Sonny's pics........that's a HEMI. I want a wedge.

Any other observations Ray.........LOL!!!

Your a little crabby today

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 07:16 PM

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I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

Ain't nothing better than popping the tops and going for a cruise!!

oh, you must run stock heads to be a street car so your out too

Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 07:32 PM

I'm just

at all this. Especially Ray's definition.

I'll just keep quiet w/ my "strace" car.

Posted By: FastmOp

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 07:44 PM

I stopped driving mine on the street after it blew up !

Posted By: justinp61

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 07:58 PM

This has been a fun read and opinions as expected run the gauntlet. It also proves that everyone who drives their car on the street (me included), no matter how wild, considers it a street car. Mr P I have to say your idea of a street car has been the most humorous to me. You have a body shell hung on a tube chassis but one of your criteria was that the fuel you run be readily available at "most" stations.

BTW, I do consider yours a street car, just like mine is.

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 08:59 PM

It says KOS (king Of Street) on my new small tire car and it will have a plate, street legal tires, exhaust, working lights, and RainEx on the stock front windshield so I am good to join the fun.

Posted By: BBR

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 09:11 PM

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I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

Ain't nothing better than popping the tops and going for a cruise!!

oh, you must run stock heads to be a street car so your out too

Posted By: skicker

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 09:16 PM

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I have the hitch part...

Could you imagine a hitch on the back of this???

I'd need a 8" drop receiver...

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Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 09:20 PM

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I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

Ain't nothing better than popping the tops and going for a cruise!!

oh, you must run stock heads to be a street car so your out too

Well they are iron heads on it right now.. so thats
stock .. right... or does it matter if they have a
W on them

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 10:13 PM

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I have the hitch part... I dont want T-tops

Ain't nothing better than popping the tops and going for a cruise!!

oh, you must run stock heads to be a street car so your out too

Well they are iron heads on it right now.. so thats
stock .. right... or does it matter if they have a
W on them

No bumper sticker or t tops so your out

Racecar spelled backwards is still a racecar

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 10:17 PM

Was John Milner's Duece Coupe a street car?

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 10:58 PM

No bumper sticker or t tops so your out

Racecar spelled backwards is still a racecar

Lets see... Rampage forward.. spells Rampage street rod...
should I put a sticker on it that says.. street rod..
but everyone can see it is because of the hitch

Posted By: BBR

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/18/15 10:59 PM

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Was John Milner's Duece Coupe a street car?

No. It was a movie car.

Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/19/15 03:02 PM

" and my "driver" is an E-class AMG Benz."

Sweet Monte! Have you run your AMG? Notice my sig..

Posted By: gdonovan

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/19/15 03:19 PM

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" and my "driver" is an E-class AMG Benz."

Sweet Monte! Have you run your AMG? Notice my sig..

I had an "informal contest"... wait.. scratch that, it was a damn street race with an E-55 and I was astounded how fast the damn thing was. Was able to fend him off by about a half car length till I hit the shift light in high gear and lifted at which point I was passed like I was in reverse.

Just wow. Neat cars.

I'm not sure which one of us was more surprised. The owner of the benz who was expecting an easy kill or me who was wondering what the deal was with the 4-dr in the other lane stabbing the throttle repeatably and dinking around.

Got a thumbs up as he went off the interstate and it took the old lady about 5 minutes to catch up in the Duster. lol.

Posted By: TonyS451

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/19/15 10:14 PM

In my opinion, real street car means you drive it all over, and when you decide to race it, you drive it to the track. Regardless of fuel type, tire size or amenities or lack thereof. This of course would assume the car is legal to be driving on the street, with proper tags, lights, mufflers, insurance, etc.

Posted By: astjp2

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/20/15 04:40 AM

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I have the hitch part...

Could you imagine a hitch on the back of this???
I'd need a 8" drop receiver...

I was thinking that you need a pair of truck nuts!

Posted By: 2qik4u

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/20/15 09:44 PM

If it can function as my daily driver then to me it's a true street car.

If it can't pull daily driver duty but meets law enforcement requirements to be street legal, I'd consider it a street/strip car.

If it can't meet law enforcement requirements to be driven on the street legally, it's a race car.

My

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/20/15 10:21 PM

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If it can function as my daily driver then to me it's a true street car.

If it can't pull daily driver duty but meets law enforcement requirements to be street legal, I'd consider it a street/strip car.

If it can't meet law enforcement requirements to be driven on the street legally, it's a race car.

My

I had a local cop pull me over ONLY to
look at my ride... I gave him the full tour of it..
he was impressed.. with the sound level and all..
I did ask if I needed to wear my shoulder straps on
my 5 point harness and he said I just needed to have
the lap belts on to be legal... as I was stopping
I pulled my shoulder straps over my shoulders.. just
in case... now I dont even do that

Posted By: skicker

Re: What the hell is a "Street car" ??? - 03/20/15 11:19 PM

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I was thinking that you need a pair of truck nuts!

They're on back order...

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