Re: Clutch disc size? And Flywheel?
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This is the part I'm not getting. You can use two different size flywheels and the starter lines up correctly?
NO, if you have a OEM Mopar stock flywheel it should have one pressure plate pattern on it If so it can be for a nine inch clutch, 10.0, 10.5 or 11 inch. Count the teeth on the flywheel to see which one it is, if it is a 130 tooth it probally is a 10.5 or 10.0 inch clutch some of the early A body 273 and 318 had a nine inch clutch in them but I don't remember, I never cared, how many teeth where on those flywheels The 143 tooth flywheels take the 11.0 inch clutches. Some, many, of the after market flywheels, can have both the 10.5 and 11.0 pressure plate bolt patterns on them IHTHs Look at the back side of your bellhousing down low in the recesses on the drivers side and write down all the numbers cast into those recesses and post them on here Those are the casting numbers of your bellhousing, we can tell you the application of that bellhousing and possibly the clutch size IHTHs
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Re: Clutch disc size? And Flywheel?
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02/28/15 02:59 PM
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This is the part I'm not getting. You can use two different size flywheels and the starter lines up correctly?
NO, if you have a OEM Mopar stock flywheel it should have one pressure plate pattern on it If so it can be for a nine inch clutch, 10.0, 10.5 or 11 inch. Count the teeth on the flywheel to see which one it is, if it is a 130 tooth it probally is a 10.5 or 10.0 inch clutch some of the early A body 273 and 318 had a nine inch clutch in them but I don't remember, I never cared, how many teeth where on those flywheels The 143 tooth flywheels take the 11.0 inch clutches. Some, many, of the after market flywheels, can have both the 10.5 and 11.0 pressure plate bolt patterns on them IHTHs Look at the back side of your bellhousing down low in the recesses on the drivers side and write down all the numbers cast into those recesses and post them on here Those are the casting numbers of your bellhousing, we can tell you the application of that bellhousing and possibly the clutch size IHTHs
There are two pressure plates that fit the 10.5" pattern. The 10.5" and the 10.95" (sometimes called the 11" scalloped, not to be confused with the true 11" setup).
Count the teeth, show use pictures of the side of the flywheel that faces the engine and we can tell you what you have and what you need. Anything else is guessing.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: Clutch disc size? And Flywheel?
[Re: ColorMeGreen]
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02/28/15 06:00 PM
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I don't have the original flywheel, I noticed some chips on the teeth and threw it out. I'll take the bell off tomorrow morning and post the numbers. Thanks
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Re: Clutch disc size? And Flywheel?
[Re: ColorMeGreen]
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02/28/15 06:24 PM
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The bell makes what you use for a flywheel.They cant be interchanged unless you have a lakewood shield.Then you can use bot wheels with their adapter.IIRC later 318 were external balance like 360.Most 440 were internal.You have to know which one you have.Rocky
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Re: Clutch disc size? And Flywheel?
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02/28/15 06:44 PM
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Here's the info for the new flywheel.
New replacement flywheel for 1967-93 BB and SB Mopar 318, 340, 360, 383, 400, and 440 with 6 bolt crank. Utilizes 11" or 12" Clutch. Internal Balance 143 tooth 14 1/2" diameter ring gear. •VPI: V2060 •OEM: 4431100 / 2843411 •HOLLANDER: 409-521/396/789 •MAKE: AMC •TEETH: 143 •O.D. 14 1/2"" •CLUTCH: 11"" & 12"" •YEAR: 1967-1993 •ENGINE: 239/3.9L, 318/5.2L, 360/5.9L, 383/6.3L, 400/6.6L, 440/7.2L •APPLICATION: Chrysler, Dodge Plymouth VPI: V2060 OEM: 4431100 / 2843411
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Re: Clutch disc size? And Flywheel?
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02/28/15 06:54 PM
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Here's the info for the new flywheel.
New replacement flywheel for 1967-93 BB and SB Mopar 318, 340, 360, 383, 400, and 440 with 6 bolt crank. Utilizes 11" or 12" Clutch. Internal Balance 143 tooth 14 1/2" diameter ring gear. •VPI: V2060 •OEM: 4431100 / 2843411 •HOLLANDER: 409-521/396/789 •MAKE: AMC •TEETH: 143 •O.D. 14 1/2"" •CLUTCH: 11"" & 12"" •YEAR: 1967-1993 •ENGINE: 239/3.9L, 318/5.2L, 360/5.9L, 383/6.3L, 400/6.6L, 440/7.2L •APPLICATION: Chrysler, Dodge Plymouth VPI: V2060 OEM: 4431100 / 2843411
Later 318's are not externally balanced.
That interchanging listing is obviously not correct. It cannot possibly fit an internal balance engine or the various, but differently balanced, external balance engines as well unless it has a bunch of bolt on weights?
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Re: Clutch disc size? And Flywheel?
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03/01/15 05:26 PM
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The factory bell housing for the 143 tooth flywheel has about an 1 1/2"-2" wide flat space on the bell housing right where the bell housing bolts to the engine. You can see the flat area where the bell housing bolts go into the block in the picture. You can find bell housing part numbers at Brewers Transmission Website, if you need parts they are great guys to deal with. http://www.brewersperformance.com/products.asp?cat=28
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