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Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Rhinodart] #1757582 02/19/15 01:10 AM 02/19/15 01:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA	Quote: In reality it is just a piece of paper that was supposed to have been thrown away Do you have a Chrysler document that says that? If so, I would love to see it.

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1757583 02/19/15 02:09 AM 02/19/15 02:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,635 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,635 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	No documents, just anecdotes from Chrysler line workers who were there in the day. It is amazing to me that nobody I have talked to wants to be interviewed from what went on back in the day. The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Rhinodart] #1757584 02/19/15 02:15 AM 02/19/15 02:15 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 11,632 SHELBY TWP,,MICHIGAN 72N96RR I LOVE WEDGIES
72N96RR I LOVE WEDGIES Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 11,632 SHELBY TWP,,MICHIGAN	I just have mine in a full size white envelope and its fine...My sheet besides a few wrinkles looks like it did in 72...I took it to FedEx and they ran me several color copies for very little money and the colors are perfect like the original...I laminated a copy that I have in the car for shows... .. Here is the copy... 8434133-IMG_1549.JPG (48 downloads) Last edited by 72N96RR; 02/19/15 02:20 AM. 1972 Road Runner / GTX 440 4spd Dana 3.54 Just about to turn 26K original miles.. A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish.. If you love someone set them free.. If they come back it means nobody else wanted them either..!!

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Rhinodart] #1757585 02/19/15 02:26 AM 02/19/15 02:26 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 11,632 SHELBY TWP,,MICHIGAN 72N96RR I LOVE WEDGIES
72N96RR I LOVE WEDGIES Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 11,632 SHELBY TWP,,MICHIGAN	Quote: No documents, just anecdotes from Chrysler line workers who were there in the day. It is amazing to me that nobody I have talked to wants to be interviewed from what went on back in the day. I missed the musclecar hey days but I started working those assembly lines in 1978..We did produce service parts that went back ten years which was cool to see.. 1972 Road Runner / GTX 440 4spd Dana 3.54 Just about to turn 26K original miles.. A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish.. If you love someone set them free.. If they come back it means nobody else wanted them either..!!

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Rhinodart] #1757586 02/19/15 02:26 AM 02/19/15 02:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA	The 'thrown away' comment & variations of it surface every so often. LA had what they called a 'No trash' policy, while some of the plants that produced the higher end cars like C-bodies & Imperials actually included a nicely folded broadcast sheet in with the owners manual packet in the glove box. So from what I have seen overall, the toss them all out line of thinking is false when it comes to broadcast sheets.

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1757587 02/19/15 03:46 AM 02/19/15 03:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,601 Great White North Furyman master
Furyman master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,601 Great White North	Quote: while some of the plants that produced the higher end cars like C-bodies & Imperials actually included a nicely folded broadcast sheet in with the owners manual packet in the glove box. Never seen that and parted over 1000 C Bodys. "Long Live Mopars"

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Furyman] #1757588 02/19/15 03:53 AM 02/19/15 03:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,601 Great White North Furyman master
Furyman master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,601 Great White North	And my own BCS collection....some are in plastic magazine sleeves,decades ago I stuck 100 or so on the sticky photo album pages...the ones with the clear plastic cover sheet ,and I have a box of probably 300 tattered ones stacked in a box in the basement.I think the ones on the photo album pages are stuck real good. "Long Live Mopars"

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1757589 02/19/15 02:46 PM 02/19/15 02:46 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Quote: Laminating is bad. The plastic can bond to the paper & cause it to break down over time. It also prevents the simple 'water test'. Scan it & print a copy if you need one for reference. Insert the original in an acid free archival page protector & store it in a safe place. Did the same with mine and made high quality color photocopies for display and back up purposes. If put in an acid free protector and stored in a dark place at room temperature the BS should last for a lifetime or two. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: DPelletier] #1757590 02/19/15 03:20 PM 02/19/15 03:20 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,337 home of the Buckeyes Butterscotch71 Lost Title
Butterscotch71 Lost Title Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,337 home of the Buckeyes	Just my opinion... laminating a broadcast sheet to preserve it is about like clearcoating an original paint car...you can still see what it looked like originally, but you have done something to permanently modify it addict:to devote or surrender (oneself) to something habitually or obsessively ....hmmmm

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Butterscotch71] #1757591 02/19/15 04:58 PM 02/19/15 04:58 PM
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70 buzz top fuel 7 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,893 michigan	My broadcast sheet was laminated when I bought the car in 2007. Is it possible to get it out of the lamination without screwing it up?

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: 70 buzz] #1757592 02/19/15 05:03 PM 02/19/15 05:03 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Quote: My broadcast sheet was laminated when I bought the car in 2007. Is it possible to get it out of the lamination without screwing it up? I don't believe so; I think once it's done it's done. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: 70 buzz] #1757593 02/19/15 05:03 PM 02/19/15 05:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA	Note likely. If it was heat laminated the plastic can bond to the paper. Best left alone if already done.

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1757594 02/20/15 02:13 AM 02/20/15 02:13 AM
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markfh52 member M Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 52 Houston Texas, USA	If you're serious about preserving any paper products for the long term you have to deacdify the paper not just keep them in acid free sleeves. I've used universityproducts dot com for document preservation mostly vintage movie posters but also my own build sheets.

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1757595 02/20/15 09:30 AM 02/20/15 09:30 AM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 305 Wisconsin Big D A12 enthusiast
Big D A12 enthusiast Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 305 Wisconsin	Quote: Laminating is bad. The plastic can bond to the paper & cause it to break down over time. It also prevents the simple 'water test'. Scan it & print a copy if you need one for reference. Insert the original in an acid free archival page protector & store it in a safe place. I keep mine in my fire safe in a folder. I am going to add the archival page protector on your advice. Good idea. What is the "simple water test", if I may ask? D Seeking 1969 Lynch Road fender tags/Build Sheets/Window Stickers/VIN - Over 2300 so far thanks to you!! 2018 Demon Challenger PY4 A8 Black Hood 2017 Jeep Trail Hawk 2016 Hellcat Challenger PCP A8 1969.5 A12 Super Bee WM21 V1H F6 D21 1969 Coronet RT B5 D32 M46 N96

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: markfh52] #1757596 02/20/15 11:21 AM 02/20/15 11:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,284 Florida blewbyu OP master
blewbyu OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,284 Florida	Quote: If you're serious about preserving any paper products for the long term you have to deacdify the paper not just keep them in acid free sleeves. I've used universityproducts dot com for document preservation mostly vintage movie posters but also my own build sheets. Look out Mark those are "BROADCAST SHEETS"

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: blewbyu] #1757597 02/20/15 12:02 PM 02/20/15 12:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,635 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,635 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	Quote: Quote: If you're serious about preserving any paper products for the long term you have to deacdify the paper not just keep them in acid free sleeves. I've used universityproducts dot com for document preservation mostly vintage movie posters but also my own build sheets. Look out Mark those are "BROADCAST SHEETS" Oh yes, the Chivvy mentality is rampant even with Mopar owners, just like posi... The broadcast sheet I took out of my 69 GTS in 1978 has been in a picture album since then and still looks the same as it did when I put it there, I looked at it yesterday! I think as long as you keep it out of the light it will be fine. The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Rhinodart] #1757598 02/20/15 05:05 PM 02/20/15 05:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,086 Strathroy, Ontario BS27R1B master
BS27R1B master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,086 Strathroy, Ontario	The slip covers or plastic sheets are not waterproof so ensure where they are kept is high and dry and will never flood or be subjected to a sprinkler system. It is very tough to avoid all perils. '.. it was long ago and it was far away, and it was so much better than it is today..' Jim Steinman

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: BS27R1B] #1757599 02/20/15 05:16 PM 02/20/15 05:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA	Another thing you can do is scan them & save a scan off site. If there is a registry for your make & model, I am sure they would file the image for you, I do that for registry members. You could also ask a pal or family member to save a backup. That way if the original is ever lost or damaged at least the data is safe somewhere. Be aware if you send a black & white low resolution copy, that is what you will get back. Take the time for a quality, color scan if it is important to you.

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1757600 02/20/15 05:20 PM 02/20/15 05:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA	As far as the build sheet VS. broadcast sheet terminology goes, the sheets had different names at different times. The top sheet in the image below is for a 1948 Dodge built at LA. 8435682-buildrecords.jpg (32 downloads)

Re: What Are you guys doing to protect build sheets? [Re: Big D A12] #1757601 02/20/15 07:12 PM 02/20/15 07:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,963 Wisconsin Stewpar master
Stewpar master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,963 Wisconsin	Quote: Quote: Laminating is bad. The plastic can bond to the paper & cause it to break down over time. It also prevents the simple 'water test'. Scan it & print a copy if you need one for reference. Insert the original in an acid free archival page protector & store it in a safe place. I keep mine in my fire safe in a folder. I am going to add the archival page protector on your advice. Good idea. What is the "simple water test", if I may ask? D It will test the "AGE" of the paper to rule out reproductions......... Admiration For Multiple Carburetor Vehicles...

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