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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: crackedback] #1757412
02/26/15 11:18 PM
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So you guys are saying the show is not real?
Jeez had me fooled
Back to watching Alaskan Bush people


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Stroker Scamp] #1757413
02/26/15 11:31 PM
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Seems to me if they really were committing illegal acts, and them filming them it would be pretty easy to prosecute them, wouldn't you say? happens all the time to dipshits who do illegal acts them get caught because they put it on the internet.

Wonder why no one has been arrested and charged with such a clear display of illegal activity?


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: crackedback] #1757414
02/26/15 11:35 PM
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Sure it has been happening for years, but now it is glorified and exposed to a much larger audience via the magic of tv.

Every dang town it seems has a "list" now of people wanting to be like the SO's.




Two Lane Blacktop/American Graffiti was around LONG before SO. LOL

I saw "Scarface", didn't want to be a coke dealer after I left the movie.

Or any number of other movies that have murder, rape, drug dealing, theft or any other illegal activity. None of those apparently should be portrayed in any fashion according to some people.




Don't forget the gay fast and furious movies


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1757415
02/26/15 11:38 PM
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No one is contesting the fact the show is taped under controlled circumstances. We all know that, but the copycats out there in my town or your town do not have that luxury.

You are fooling yourself if you think the only racing these guys do is what you see on the boob tube.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: BBR] #1757416
02/26/15 11:45 PM
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No one is contesting the fact the show is taped under controlled circumstances. We all know that, but the copycats out there in my town or your town do not have that luxury.

You are fooling yourself if you think the only racing these guys do is what you see on the boob tube.




I personally got out of street racing, but I still talk and hang with friends who still street race. The street trend now is more "roll racing" which I friggen hate anyway but it is more dangerous to traffic and pedestrians. But you are right I know of two "street lists" here in town now which were around back n the late 90's to early 2000's and faded away but have since made a resurgence from the show's popularity.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1757417
02/27/15 05:00 AM
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http://abc7.com/news/2-pedestrians-killed-in-chatsworth-street-racing-hit-and-run/535300/




Pittsburgracer quit trying to cloud the issue with the REALITY of reality of illegal street racing which is exactly what this show promotes..






Here's my question.. WHAT IF.????

It's always a possibility, you never know...... IF....

On this TV show, Someone DIES..


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/los-angeles-police-id-suspect-in-fatal-street-race/ar-BBhZPmr


Just throwing it out there..



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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1757418
02/27/15 07:55 AM
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part of the thrill, take chances,there are many things we do everyday we could die from

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: d-150] #1757419
02/27/15 07:59 AM
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part of the thrill, take chances,there are many things we do everyday we could die from




92 people die in car accidents in the US every single day.

We should stop driving cars.




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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: gdonovan] #1757420
02/27/15 09:08 AM
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Yes we do things that can kill us, every time we meet another vehicle we're four feet from death.

It's one thing when someone does something foolish and kills himself. If he does something foolish and kills someone else it's a different story.

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: justinp61] #1757421
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I am a lot more concerned with people texting than about street racing. Distracted drivers injure and kill scores more people than street racing ever has. And the texting isn't even glorified on TV.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: DaveRS23] #1757422
02/27/15 12:56 PM
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Here's the deal though. Every time a street racing accident occurs, it gets media attention. That attention not only reflects poorly on us as drag race enthusiasts, but on our hobby AND aftermarket as a whole.

Our hobby is under constant attack from leaders and legislators (or insurance companies!) who think what we do presents a threat either to the safety of the public or to the environment. By supporting illegal street racing or by turning a blind eye to it we only serve to make their case.

Laws are made because people act like idiots.
Case in point: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/19/no-laughing-gas-matter-mississippi-becomes-39th-state-to-ban/


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1757423
02/27/15 01:09 PM
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http://abc7.com/news/2-pedestrians-killed-in-chatsworth-street-racing-hit-and-run/535300/




Pittsburgracer quit trying to cloud the issue with the REALITY of reality of illegal street racing which is exactly what this show promotes..






Here's my question.. WHAT IF.????

It's always a possibility, you never know...... IF....

On this TV show, Someone DIES..


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/los-angeles-police-id-suspect-in-fatal-street-race/ar-BBhZPmr


Just throwing it out there..



Chris..



What if......just throwing it out there.....but what if, a racer died on live national television, at an NHRA event? Oh wait, that has already happened. Scott Kalitta is the first example that comes to mind. Should NHRA be shut down because somebody died? Racing is inherently dangerous, no matter where its done.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: DusterDave] #1757424
02/27/15 01:33 PM
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Here's how I see it and I know Mike Murillo pretty well. The NHRA came into being to get racers off of the street and onto a track. That's what they are all about. Along the way they have implemented hundreds of safety mandates that has made the sport safe for even cars like mine. They have every right to pull competition licenses from guys who prefer to go against their anti-street racing dogma. Would you expect MADD to allow drivers to drink at their events?

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: BobR] #1757425
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: BobR] #1757426
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Would you expect MADD to allow drivers to drink at their events?




Awkward.

http://www.southflorida.com/events/sf-mo...erdale-20140304,0,338547.story

Before their MADD Dash and Walk Like MADD 5K events on May 4, the Fort Lauderdale chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Driving will toast its South Florida athletes with a swank cocktail party Wednesday night at AutoNation Headquarters (200 SW First Ave., Fort Lauderdale).




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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: crackedback] #1757427
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So were they spectators or pedestrians.

Out for a walk on Plummer at 2:30 means you are either watching a race or selling drugs!




From the article: "Henry Gevorgya, 21, is accused of driving a gray Ford Mustang that plowed into a crowd of onlookers, killing two spectators and seriously injuring another person"

They were participating...


Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Airwoofer] #1757428
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So were they spectators or pedestrians.

Out for a walk on Plummer at 2:30 means you are either watching a race or selling drugs!




From the article: "Henry Gevorgya, 21, is accused of driving a gray Ford Mustang that plowed into a crowd of onlookers, killing two spectators and seriously injuring another person"

They were participating...





This item was on the national news break at the top of the hour on my drive into work today... and I'm outside of Washington, D.C.

SOMEBODY wants this to be "big news" outside of SoCal, too.

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: BradH] #1757429
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I understand what you guys are saying. YES, we know street racing is illegal. YES, we know it can be dangerous and YES, we know it goes on all the time and will continue to do so. Posting links to all the clips and newcasts in the world won't change that fact. You mourn for anybody who is hurt.............But, lets face a few facts here as well. If you are KNOWINGLY at a street race, as these dudes apparently were and your choice of vantage points is ON THE CURB, where the cars will be racing between at full speed, YOU are an idiot.

Would you stand on the track at a dragstrip if they let you? Do you see guys lining the streets watching on the TV show? At some point, even though something is dangerous, YOU have to use some common sense and be responsible for your own well being.

I have street raced and think most ANYBODY who has or ever had a performance type car, or any car for that matter has engaged in it in some way or another. Have you ever quickly closed the gap on the guy who flies by you on the expressway, before he can cut you off. Have you made it your mission to "beat" that guy to the next redlight, or hammered by somebody to get in front of them to make the next turn. Have you finally got by a guy in the left lane and nearly took his bumper off, when you shot back in front of him. All this stuff is DANGEROUS. Is it as dangerous as lining up on a deserted road and seeing who is faster. In some cases, our everyday driving and things we do is much MORE dangerous than a clandestine street race, because of the others around.

I think it is crazy, to think this show is trying to "glorify" street racing. It is simply a TV show. So lets not try and tie street racing fatalities to this show. That has always happened at times and will continue. But if you DO go to a street race. DON'T stand on the damn curb.

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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: BradH] #1757430
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So wonder if the family of any of the victims tries to sue Discovery channel or the producers of the show. It is in Cali afterall....

I raced on the streets as I am sure most of us did at one point or another. I eventually matured and realized it was a dangerous activity and moved it to the track. I stated earlier in this post that I did it to support my habit and family for a time. The one thing we DID not do was make a spectacle of ourselves. When I was racing for money the last thing any of us wanted was ATTENTION. I think you can agree this show is doing quite the opposite, whether staged or not they are trying to glamourize an illegal activity plain and simple.

I think some of you need to spend more time around younger people. They like we did back in the day have a different outlook on things. Many of them have lived in a world of social media, instance gratification and "internet fame". They just see things different than we did.

It has been my job for a number of years until recently to work directly with young men and women who are in our hobby on a personal level. I think you will find many of them hold a certain reverence to these guys. Many want to emulate what they see on the internet and TV. At a recent Midnite Mayhem here, our local tracks alternative to the streets I heard some folks talking about wanting to do something similar here, forming a top 10 street race group here. Would they have had the idea without the show? Who knows 100% for sure but the idea came directly from what was on TV according to what was being discussed.

Just saying I think some people posting on here might want to spend some time up close and personal with some younger people. It does not help that the sport is so expensive to get involved in. How many here have reached out to the younger generation and got them to the track? Invite them to come spectate or help with the car. I think you will find many or more than enthusiastic to come. I know they have always been with us.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Monte_Smith] #1757431
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I think it is crazy, to think this show is trying to "glorify" street racing. It is simply a TV show..Monte




Yes it is , its a TV show GLORIFYING STREET RACING, thats why its called street outlaws.

If it wasn't glorifying it would be a documentry showing the bad that can happen.


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