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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17487
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Daty,
Thanks for the link to Gates website.
I picked up another belt on the way home tonight.
It is a 6-rib belt 79 1/2". It seems to fit quite nice. The 7 rib belt sizes jump from 78 1/8 to 83" (Gates). I attached a pic of the installed belt.
Bob

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: 57HemiDart] #17488
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A 6 rib belt matches the pulley grooves? That's cool and opens up a much finer adjustment on belt selection.

-Daty

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17489
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Yes. The grooves seem to match. I was worried about the width of the belt as it doesn't cover the pulley from edge to edge. As long as you use the same grooves on each pulley I think it will work with no problems.

Bob

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: 57HemiDart] #17490
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I have a few questions that I hope you guys doing the 5.7l swap can help me with! I have a '85 D150 (pic attached) that I am considering doing a 5.7l swap to. Is it possible to buy just an intake to run a carb on these motors? Do you have to run the coil packs on these or would a crank trigger MSD type setup work? Is the 5.7 buildable to a 6.1 or more? Are there stroker kits available? I found a really cheap shortblock and a pair of heads seperately that I was thinking of getting but I am unsure as to how readily avail. parts to rebuild these motors are. Nothing was listed on Mopar.com but I haven't checked with a dealer yet. I have done several searches on the internet with no luck! I am a CNC Programmer/Machinist so I am pretty sure I can make brackets, pulleys and even an intake if I have to but I am concerned with big parts like the pistons, rings, rods, bearings and crank! thanks for any help!

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MP does make a carb intake, Bob is getting the kit that uses a takeout and with a wiring harness, manifold, and some other stuff to put it in a non computor controlled car. I don't know if the manifold is available seperately. Start at the beginning of the thread for Bob's post on the kit.

Do you have to run the coil packs on these or would a crank trigger MSD type setup work?

no idea on the msd

Is the 5.7 buildable to a 6.1 or more? Are there stroker kits available?

I THINK there are a lot of differences between the 5.7 and 6.1, no stroker kits yet but there are cam kits.

but I am unsure as to how readily avail. parts to rebuild these motors are.

stock parts shouldn't be a problem, not much aftermarket yet.

-Daty

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17492
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The kit I ordered from Mopar Performance includes the Intake Manifold (fuel injection), 4bbl Throttle-body, Computer and Wiring Harness.
I called MP and asked them for the part# for the kit. I then orderd it from my local Dodge dealer.
These are supposed to be the same parts used on the Crate engines. They probably have a similar kit with the Carb Intake Manifold. Actually, the manifold may be one and the same. It's probably just a matter of using the carb or the throttle-body unit.
Oh yea.. the kit is not cheap.. $4800.00. I got my 10% discount off of that price, though.
I'm still waiting for my kit to arrive.

Other than cams and headers, there's not much out there for these engines yet.

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: 57HemiDart] #17493
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I made some progress over the weekend, got my engine compartment and trunk back to body color. The trunk I painted grey splatter (years ago) and the engine compartment was just plain wore out. I figured while everything was out of the way I should respray it.

Not much other progress but this was a biggie.

-Daty

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17494
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Hey guys, thanks for the help. I decided to buy a complete motor and 5spd Auto tranny off of Ebay out of a wrecked 2004 truck w/ only 7k miles on it. Less than 4K shipped to my door! I can't wait to slip that baby in. I'm sure it won't be a snap either!

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All right, another vic, err... victim! Yea, that's it. Whiteboy is doing the takeout into a Challenger and he's using the 5speed that came with the motor too, please keep us updated and if you have problems or solutions post them.

Progress on mine has slowed down with the weather around here...

-Daty

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17496
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Cool.. Another swap coming online.

My project has slowed too. We've had snow twice this week. And it's been pretty cold.

I hope to pull the interior out of Dart soon. After that I'll try to test-fit the Hemi engine before the body/paint work begins.

Bob

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: 57HemiDart] #17497
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I am targetting next weekend for the first (and hopefully last) hemi install for the vert. I talked with the dealership this last week (Dallas Dodge) and they really want the Cuda as part of the display at the Dallas AutoRama, I've got til mid-Feb to get this mobile. It's gonna be tight...

Hey, thanks all that are doing a Sissy Hemi install, it really helps to have an ear to bounce problems with.

-Daty

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Quote:

Do you have to run the coil packs on these or would a crank trigger MSD type setup work?




The engine comes with a crank sensor and a cam sensor built in. The standard MSD systems I have seen only drive up to four coils, and the standard crank trigger stuff still uses a distributor to send the spark. However, MSD does make a plug in kit for the LS1 and LS6 engine with a carb which can use the GM coils or the MSD replacement coils. I would suggest calling them and seeing if they are interested, I think that the development time for them on 5.7L would be minimal considering the similarities with the LS1/LS6 electronically. Depending on the sensors it may be something as simple as a different harness.


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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17499
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Hey Daty --

its been some time since we had talked, just to update you...

FYI -- Im doing my Cuda with a '04' Dodge Ram magnum 5.7 pullout that is Brand New with no miles on it. Im not using the auto trans 4x4. I have keisler's new 5-speed 'E' body conversion kit complete. TTI's ceramic 2 1/2" headers with complete 'E' body exhaust system. undecided which rearend to use and wheel/tire combo.

Ive lost interest due to working allot lately and its been cold here.

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: 440whiteboy] #17500
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Thanks for dropping in, I've been putting in 45-55 hours/week the last couple months (working 3rd shift too) so the only day I really get is Sunday. Progress has slowed to a crawl from the time issue. Still have the mid-Feb timeline though, ughhh...

-Daty

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Well according to the tracking info my Hemi arrives tomorrow. I am so excited! Like a kid at Christmas. Wait just a minute. I am a Big Kid and it is almost Christmas. I guess I'll just have to celebrate my Christmas tomorrow then!

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I was informed by DD that my xmas present is sitting in the garage, I said "the hemi?" yep. If Im lucky I'll get socks in the stocking this year. I'm cool with that.

As far as progress did some touchup on the paint, installed new brake lines in the engine compartment, put stuff back on the firewall, put the trunk back together (it got a new coat to fix the splatter paint I did years ago) and almost got the front end back under the car.

8 weeks and counting down....

-Daty

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WOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!! IT SHOWED UP TODAY JUST AS I THOUGHT! I've got all next week off of work to figure out how to get it in. Looks like it won't be that hard But there will be a lot of Wish me luck!!!!

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Good deal! Keep us posted on progress and such.

-Daty

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17505
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Well.. I thought I was making progress when the Dodge Dealer told me my 5.7 Fuel Injection kit (MP crate engine parts) arrived. When I looked at the contents in the box at the dealer it had:
(2) wiring harnesses (only need 1)
(2) throttle bodies (only need 1)
(0) computer (need 1)
(0) intake manifold (need 1)
The dealer now has to find out from supplier why the order is screwed up and get it fixed.
I now wish I had ordered the crate engine.
BTW.. These parts came in a "Cummins" box..

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: 57HemiDart] #17506
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Bob that hurt,I'd make sure the harness you keep is the right one, they may be different (one auto, one manual?) for some reason and you want to keep the right one.

-Daty

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