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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: lilcuda]
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03/09/15 08:15 AM
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I would bet the other 5 cars had not a single factory component in their suspensions. And I also know they all had at least 200hp on ya. They're the ones that should be hangin their heads....
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: 72Swinger]
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03/09/15 12:06 PM
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I would bet the other 5 cars had not a single factory component in their suspensions. And I also know they all had at least 200hp on ya. They're the ones that should be hangin their heads....
I think 200 HP short would be a low estimate.
Probably have to step up and get some light weight wheels and a little more power to crack the top 3. Very easily done, even with the shortblock you probably already have in the car.
Great to see the car competitive, good job. But, you know, you probably would have won with a coilover conversion...
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: 72Swinger]
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03/09/15 03:11 PM
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Thanks for the encouragement guys, I do think at the beginning of the course before the first cone, there was a 0-60 run for me (probably 0-75mph for them). I might have been giving up 1- 1.5 seconds there. The rest of the track was not very HP dependent. I have been resisting forcing myself to left foot brake til now but after watching Maier/Pozzi, I know there was time to be gained by doing it, and I should be able to keep the car calmer during transitions if I do left foot brake...
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: Tomswheels]
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03/09/15 03:19 PM
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I always left foot braked, ALWAYS. You can hold the gas down slightly as needed while braking and then have a better/quicker acceleration going thru and coming out of the corners. Yes time is lost every time you switch the right foot from gas to brake, and back. That time adds up quickly. And there is no sudden jerky acceleration that can happen with right foot braking.
Tom
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: amxautox]
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03/09/15 03:37 PM
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Oh ya, forgot to include; There are always exceptions, like a high speed course where you HAVE to change gears up and down for the straights and corners.  I've never been on one of those type courses. And my AMX has great bottom end and I could proceed from a near stop in 2nd gear. Even a dead stop a couple times. AMC motors where known for their bottom end power/torque.
Tom
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: joes68340s]
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03/09/15 03:57 PM
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Maybe some day I'll get to some of those events, just to watch I'm sure. And maybe even to go autocrossing again. Is there any vids of that event?
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: Tomswheels]
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03/09/15 07:56 PM
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Tom -- you did great! That's the competition you want to measure yourself against. The top cars, especially Maier/Pozzi, are professionally setup and have been fine-tuned for many years before you, and those drivers have many years of highest national SCCA-type Solo/autocross experience. Your car is and can be a top contender... but the CAM class is becoming a $$$ class, in my opinion... as its similar to C/Prepared, except 200 TW tires and licensed/insured. Lightest-weight (3000 lbs?... and let's see the weight results at the track/event), high HP/torque, hi-winding RPM engines (avoid shifting if/whenever possible for smoothness), stickiest tires, and especially driver's expertise will result in the best results. Learning the best placement of the car at every location of the course is critical, and of course the track layout has to be memorized with precision in your mind before each run... knowing where to be before you get there and far ahead (speed reading a course in your mind)... concentration mandatory. Placing high as you did is very comendable! CONGRATS! 
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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03/09/15 08:44 PM
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Tom -- you did great! That's the competition you want to measure yourself against. The top cars, especially Maier/Pozzi, are professionally setup and have been fine-tuned for many years before you, and those drivers have many years of highest national SCCA-type Solo/autocross experience. Your car is and can be a top contender... but the CAM class is becoming a $$$ class, in my opinion... as its similar to C/Prepared, except 200 TW tires and licensed/insured. Lightest-weight (3000 lbs?... and let's see the weight results at the track/event), high HP/torque, hi-winding RPM engines (avoid shifting if/whenever possible for smoothness), stickiest tires, and especially driver's expertise will result in the best results. Learning the best placement of the car at every location of the course is critical, and of course the track layout has to be memorized with precision in your mind before each run... knowing where to be before you get there and far ahead (speed reading a course in your mind)... concentration mandatory.
Placing high as you did is very comendable! CONGRATS!
Thanks much!
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: Tomswheels]
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03/09/15 08:51 PM
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I Left foot brake even on the Road Course, especially when trying to get a guy to move over. When your on the bumper of a $50K car, I recommend it.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: 68cuda440]
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03/10/15 01:56 AM
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OK - missed that. Wow, that was quick. I had the impression Scott was going to hold on to it.
I bowed out of that (awesome car) sooner than I ever expected because a car I've been after (attached pic)finally became available and I had to choose just one to hang on to. I'll join the fray again at a later date with a different A-body build of my own.
I'll say this much, that little red Valiant SCREAMS on the track, a bit of sorting out, some better wheels and tires, and that thing can play with the best of them.
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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03/10/15 03:48 AM
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OK - missed that. Wow, that was quick. I had the impression Scott was going to hold on to it.
I bowed out of that (awesome car) sooner than I ever expected because a car I've been after (attached pic)finally became available and I had to choose just one to hang on to. I'll join the fray again at a later date with a different A-body build of my own.
I'll say this much, that little red Valiant SCREAMS on the track, a bit of sorting out, some better wheels and tires, and that thing can play with the best of them.
Scott- Is that your buddy's from Winfield that I met a few years back when I was dropping those SBP discs for you?
2 Demons...no, not my kids! 
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