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Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? #1741332
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I'm building a 572 B1 motor for a buddy. Callies 4.5" crank, World aluminum block, B1s fully ported.

It will be a pump gas motor and then spay it 350-500, Drag Week car

Trying to decide between the Manley Pro I-beams and the Oliver I-beams. Both with ARP625 bolts.

7.100 2.200 and Chrysler width

Both are rated for over 1,000 HP.

Hoping to make 900-950 on the motor and then spray it to 1,300hp

Does anyone have any experience with those and have any opinions on either one?


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Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1741333
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Olivers all the way.

Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: jkwedge540] #1741334
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Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1741335
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Olivers in my 605 plus fogger and plate kit no complaints here
8.40 @165

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Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: avenger572] #1741336
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I like the Manley rods.

Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: avenger572] #1741337
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Olivers in my 605 plus fogger and plate kit no complaints here
8.40 @165




I bought Olivers because the Crowers were a little heavier, but they are both good rods.

Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1741338
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I upgraded to 7.100 Oliver rods last time I freshened up my dyno mule.

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Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: AndyF] #1741339
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How do Carrillo's stack up against Oliver/Manleys?

Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1741340
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Quote:

How do Carrillo's stack up against Oliver/Manleys?




Not in same ball park.

If not a carrillo I would recommend callies ultra rods with good bolts (arp new age 625)

Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1741341
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You can't go wrong with ether one both are made in the USA .oliver is a bit better I think I have ran both .nice stuff ether way.....


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Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: WHITEDART] #1741342
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I wouldn't say for sure the Manleys are made in the USA. In fact, very few rods are made here. If you are not going to pay for the Olivers, dig around and find a much cheaper chinese knock off that's not in a name brand box. Check and fit both ends and go.

I'm tired of companies claiming their junk is made here, when it's only boxed here, or at most, finished machined here.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1741343
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Oliver. I have their billet steel rods in my 572" hemi. Over 800 hp on motor plus 250 hp NOS.


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Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: madscientist] #1741344
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The Callies Ultra series rods are manufactured 100% in there Fostoria Ohio facility.

Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: WHITEDART] #1741345
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Quote:

Not in same ball park.

If not a carrillo I would recommend callies ultra rods with good bolts (arp new age 625)




So you are saying Carrillos are better than Olivers or Manleys?

Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1741346
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The problems Ron had with with Oliver rods on the 501" small block build would scare me a little.


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Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: Bad340fish] #1741347
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I would go with Callies Ultra rods with 625 bolts but they don't make a 7.100 2.200 journal with mopar width.

My options are :
- Custom R&R rods (ARP2000) for $1,800 or $2,250 with APR625s
- Manley Pro I-beam (ARP2000) $1,425 or $1874 with ARP625s
- Oliver billet I-Beams (L19 bolts) $1,380 or $1,830 with ARP625s

So I think the Olivers have better rod bolts for a little bit less.

I think any will do the job just fine.

Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1741348
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Is the Callies L-19 bolt any count? I am disappointed they didn't use ARP 2000 on those $1200 rods.

Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1741349
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Why not a aluminum rod? Help with the shock load of the nitrous not transferring to the crank or mains.

Carrillo are a lot better then these choices.


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Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: Airwoofer] #1741350
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Quote:

Is the Callies L-19 bolt any count? I am disappointed they didn't use ARP 2000 on those $1200 rods.




Callies isn't an option, they don't make a 7.100 2.200 mopar width rod, I've asked.

Re: Oliver I-beams or Manley Pro I-beams? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1741351
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Quote:

Why not a aluminum rod? Help with the shock load of the nitrous not transferring to the crank or mains.

Carrillo are a lot better then these choices.




Aluminum rods on street motor is not a good idea, I've spoken to most of the aluminum rod manufactures and they don't recommend and tell me to go steel.

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