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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users?
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01/31/15 11:38 PM
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Wow, this is all amazing info. Thanks so much.
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users?
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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02/01/15 01:03 AM
02/01/15 01:03 AM
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I'm curious, what car do you have, do you race it? How fast is it and what suspension is under it.
I have a 340 Dart that is under construction (it has been for a long time). and will be a 400/470 727 TF when it gets done. I had bought Schumacher conversion mounts but unless anything better shows up it will eventually have the HDK suspension. I want to be able to utilize full sized B/E under chassis headers with nothing in the way which a coil-over conversion will allow me to do. I have two friends with four HDK Hemi A-bodies between them. All are street cars and work really well. Their rides are comparable to a well tuned stocker and the steering is vastly improved. One of those cars has A/C and another one of them has a Keisler 5- speed. Two of them have Hilborn stack injection with EFI and two have Dana 60's. I do not plan on racing my car although it would be nice to try it once just to see what it can do.
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users?
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02/01/15 01:12 AM
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I'm curious, what car do you have, do you race it? How fast is it and what suspension is under it.
I have a 340 Dart that is under construction (it has been for a long time) and will be a 400/470 727 TF when it gets done. I had bought Schumacher conversion mounts but unless anything better shows up it will eventually have the HDK suspension. I want to be able to utilize full sized B/E under chassis headers with nothing in the way which a coil-over conversion will allow me to do. I have two friends with four HDK Hemi A-bodies between them. All are street cars and work really well. Their rides are comparable to a well tuned stocker and the steering is vastly improved. One of those cars has A/C and another one of them has a Keisler 5- speed. Two of them have Hilborn stack injection with EFI and two have Dana 60's. I do not plan on racing my car although it would be nice to try it once just to see what it can do.
If your still building the car, why not put a pair
of struts on it for MUCH cheaper
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users?
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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02/01/15 01:27 AM
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If your still building the car, why not put a pair
of struts on it for MUCH cheaper
I've never seen anybody convert to struts on a street car.
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users?
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02/01/15 01:44 AM
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Buying a proven front end like Bills for a street car ends up bunches cheaper in the long run
I have to agree with that. This is why I have done so much reading and research on proven setups even if it might be some time until I can buy one.
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users?
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02/01/15 01:49 AM
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If your still building the car, why not put a pair
of struts on it for MUCH cheaper
like I have pointed out to you before, CHEAPER is not better.  (even if the struts would actually end up cheaper) You want people to put struts on cars without a jig, frame table or the skill set to figure out where everything should be and WHY. assuming they even know how to weld good.
This advice is why cars end up unfinished and built wrong.
Buying a proven front end like Bills for a street car ends up bunches cheaper in the long run and makes a persons car worth more on the resale. Not to mention can be raced in a lot of series where big tires and non stock front ends are not allowed.
What he said! 
going to the Duster from the Mirada I knew those dang torsion bars had to go.... and why not rid of that heavy steering box while I'm at at. Tube K, rack, coil overs..... A+ in all aspects!
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users?
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02/01/15 02:49 AM
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If your still building the car, why not put a pair
of struts on it for MUCH cheaper
like I have pointed out to you before, CHEAPER is not better. (even if the struts would actually end up cheaper) You want people to put struts on cars without a jig, frame table or the skill set to figure out where everything should be and WHY. assuming they even know how to weld good.
This advice is why cars end up unfinished and built wrong.
Buying a proven front end like Bills for a street car ends up bunches cheaper in the long run and makes a persons car worth more on the resale. Not to mention can be raced in a lot of series where big tires and non stock front ends are not allowed.
Why do you think you have to jig struts... if you
dont know how to put them on.. fine have it done..
but I also understand not everyone wants them
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users?
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02/01/15 12:22 PM
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the HDK has a bar or tube running across the back of the k for support, that's as bad as having a drag link when it comes to oil pans. I don't know why some pics of the HDK show this and others don't.
They said it was an option but not necessary.
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users?
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02/03/15 11:08 AM
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anyone know if you can buy it without springs and shocks?
I tried to buy it less stuff, wasn't able to but, I didn't try really hard
It was complete with brakes, etc
$5350 shipped to me
Had I done a little more research, I'd bought one from Hemi Denny
same basic thing but, looks nicer
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=186472
And, I think its just a tad less $$ not much though
yes you can buy the alter-k piece by piece if you want.
as far as the hemi denny one goes at the end of the day if you use the same high quality parts as the alter-k uses its really no cheaper. and you have to spend the time to source all the parts. not a huge deal but for the same price i may as well one stop shop with the alter-k.
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