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Re: whats a better car to build for handling b or a body?
[Re: Consulier]
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01/23/15 01:41 PM
01/23/15 01:41 PM
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Escondido CA USA
Tomswheels
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It fits a small block, and I run 285 Fronts and 305 Rears, so it's not too bad....
What did you have to do to get the 285 to fit? If you have a thread with the details, please point the way.
Kevin, Dan installed the Hotchkis kit in Yuma, 18x10 +42 offset wheels, really just some minor fender work in the front, rolled the lips, cut an inch out of the rear of the front wheel opening behind the lip and re-welded it, and took a pneumatic jack and pushed the top of the lip out about 3/4 of an inch. I'm trying to get a quick build thread put together next week. It's unfortunately on the other end of the build spectrum from your awesome Duster, but trying to race it as much as possible this year!
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Re: whats a better car to build for handling b or a body?
[Re: Tomswheels]
#1736210
01/23/15 03:32 PM
01/23/15 03:32 PM
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USA
Consulier
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Kevin, Dan installed the Hotchkis kit in Yuma, 18x10 +42 offset wheels, really just some minor fender work in the front, rolled the lips, cut an inch out of the rear of the front wheel opening behind the lip and re-welded it, and took a pneumatic jack and pushed the top of the lip out about 3/4 of an inch. I'm trying to get a quick build thread put together next week. It's unfortunately on the other end of the build spectrum from your awesome Duster, but trying to race it as much as possible this year!
That seems way too easy... Might be on the opposite side of the spectrum, but yours is running.
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Re: whats a better car to build for handling b or a body?
[Re: Consulier]
#1736211
01/23/15 08:00 PM
01/23/15 08:00 PM
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Escondido CA USA
Tomswheels
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Kevin, Dan installed the Hotchkis kit in Yuma, 18x10 +42 offset wheels, really just some minor fender work in the front, rolled the lips, cut an inch out of the rear of the front wheel opening behind the lip and re-welded it, and took a pneumatic jack and pushed the top of the lip out about 3/4 of an inch. I'm trying to get a quick build thread put together next week. It's unfortunately on the other end of the build spectrum from your awesome Duster, but trying to race it as much as possible this year!
That seems way too easy... Might be on the opposite side of the spectrum, but yours is running.
I hear ya, the 69 Convertible was really starting to show its age/flexibility, so I had to get something up and working quick. The Valiant is actually surpassing my expectations at Autocross, but down on power/gearing/braking for anything longer right now...
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Re: whats a better car to build for handling b or a body?
[Re: Tomswheels]
#1736212
01/23/15 11:10 PM
01/23/15 11:10 PM
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Nebraska
72Swinger
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Tom I see you are saying the wheels are +42 now instead of +22, NOW I don't feel like im losing my mind. I've been looking at 18x9.5's in the 40-45mm range and I think I could squeeze them on without any effort. I would do 18x10's if I could find some I liked but I think a 285 would still work well on a 9.5.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: whats a better car to build for handling b or a body?
[Re: bigblockbryan]
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01/24/15 02:15 AM
01/24/15 02:15 AM
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Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
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I've owned and drag race a lot of different Mopar body styles and year cars over the years, no doubt in my mind on which is better for your deal. The Demon would be my choice to start with  Remember the laws of physics when it comes to going fast, light is right, cars, tires, wheels, pistons, crankshafts rods, brakes and so on. The other half of that law is big is best, motors, carbs, tires and so on    Back in the mid 1970s I sold a 1970 Hemi Cuda clone car to a young kid in Santa Monica, CA, he said he was going to street race it in and around Hollywood and San Fernado Valley CA. I ASSUMED street drag racing it stoplight to stop light, he wasn't  He wanted to race it up n the hills between Hollyweird and San Fernado valley on the other side of the Hollywood hills   Bottom line is he called me on how to make that car go around corners better, that was not doable back then, I told him to sell that car and buy a 340 or 360 powered Duster and never look back. He insisted that he loved the E bodys so I suggested he find a AAR Cuda or a T/A Challenger, which he did He bought a 1970 T/A Challenger and raced it up on the hill, the first week he raced it he called me and thank me profusely, he siad that the Challenger was way faster through the curves than the Hemi Cuda was and almost as fast as it was on the straights :shruggy :Bottom line was he was beating up every car that came up there to play, including the turbo charged Porches of that day  IHTHs I love BB powered Mopar drag cars, but the results of his endeavors speak volumes on where to start with a handling car My last BB powered Duster with the 400 stroker motor moved back one inch and the rear end moved forward one inch had 50.2 % weight on the front tires and 49.8 % on the rears with me(260 lbs) in the drivers seat My original steel front end 415 HP M.W. 1963 Plymouth Belevedere sedan had similar weight disribution with me in it also Bottom line is to pick the best choice out there to start any new race car project, if you want to win and have fun doing that
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: whats a better car to build for handling b or a body?
[Re: Supercuda]
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01/25/15 02:52 PM
01/25/15 02:52 PM
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NorCal
RylisPro
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WTF does drag racing have to do with handling?
Power to weight ratio.
It goes hand in hand with both drag racing and road racing/auto-x.
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Re: whats a better car to build for handling b or a body?
[Re: Supercuda]
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01/26/15 05:45 AM
01/26/15 05:45 AM
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the frozen wastes...
Pale_Roader
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I guess I build them backwards as I usually build the suspension, brakes and trans/driveshaft/axles first, then add HP. Seen too many builds with more HP than the brakes, suspension, trans, driveshaft and/or axle could handle.
CoughHellcat!cough...
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Re: whats a better car to build for handling b or a body?
[Re: Supercuda]
#1736220
01/31/15 05:20 AM
01/31/15 05:20 AM
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Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
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I've owned and drag race a lot of different Mopar body styles and year cars over the years, no doubt in my mind on which is better for your deal.
I  think  you  forget  what  section you are are  posting  in.
This is the handling forum, not the 13 year old gurl who emotes too much forum. WTF does drag racing have to do with handling?
Physcic is physcic son Open your mind and start thinking BTW, I have help some roundy round racer when a few track championships, none of this race car stuff, regardless of which way you race, is hard to get a handle on  
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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