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Ron, what would U do with this? COE thread.
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OK, I found this and am probably jumping the gun but I am hoping to try and get this cab. Its stored at a home with the other cars I posted but belongs to a guy I have et a few times, according to the owner, who remembers me. I am having a hard time placing him, but hope it a positive recolection. In any case, I called the owner of the cab who says its for sale. He didnt give me a price but he wants something i have as well. So over the past couple of years I have been wanting to make a COE hauler project on a Dodge dually extended frame/ cummins, ect of some sort. If I grab thgis, I need a plan. Even if I dont, I now have the itch a agin to at least dream. So that said, if I get it, I will need a Dodge diesel 2WD and then need more room. A sleeper cab or something else? What do you fellas and gals think? also, to Ron the COE guru, I again posted the addition to the other thread on here as I can see where I a heading with this. Ron, I talked to the guy tonight. I will talk with him again tomorrow. Hes hot after a 392 HEMI composit block I have for mocking up motors into cars. I will see what I can do about getting the cab. If I were to grab it, whats thebest platform for it? A cummins platform? and if so, I am guessing unlike the chevy counterpart, it can not be mocked up using a truck to extend the cab? I recall that the chevy cab be mated with a chevy truck to lenghten the cab. I believe that the Dodge can not and thus, thats why we see the sleeper sections attached to them? If I get one, I want it to be a driver and will use it to haul the 38 or what ever other Rods I end up with. But I would need some room as this cab is small as compared to the chevy cab I still know of thats sitting out there. Not much room in it. do you lower/ drop the floor for leg room or what your advise? Dave     Dave
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one more that I took of the inside of the cab. It has its dents and ding and many buller holes in the back, but I can bring it back to live. The floor pan cover is gone, but I believe that needs to be gone if a cummins is going there? Dave 
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Dave, my old purple COE was on a 74 dodge 3/4 ton chassis and I have built or am building my COE's on mid 70's 1 ton chevy dually chassis and these work out great. I have not yet done one on a dodge diesel chassis but we have plans to build one and it will be a clubcab COE and my son is looking for a late 90's turbo diesel to do a crewcab dodge 4X4 truck. mating a sleeper to the cab is easier than building a crewcab but either way is pretty cool for a hauler.. these trucks seam to fit on most later chassis pretty good I have one going on a Dakota chassis and that one fits great also. I believe that the engine and trans would have to be moved back behind the cab or the cab would have to be mounted pretty high to clear the turbo diesel engine or there will be a BIG engine cover in the cab. the best way to make a crewcab is to get another 40 cab and splice them together, this is what we are going to do with my sons truck. Ron... heres my free one  
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Dave, my old purple COE was on a 74 dodge 3/4 ton chassis and I have built or am building my COE's on mid 70's 1 ton chevy dually chassis and these work out great.
I have not yet done one on a dodge diesel chassis but we have plans to build one and it will be a clubcab COE and my son is looking for a late 90's turbo diesel to do a crewcab dodge 4X4 truck.
mating a sleeper to the cab is easier than building a crewcab but either way is pretty cool for a hauler..
these trucks seam to fit on most later chassis pretty good I have one going on a Dakota chassis and that one fits great also.
I believe that the engine and trans would have to be moved back behind the cab or the cab would have to be mounted pretty high to clear the turbo diesel engine or there will be a BIG engine cover in the cab.
the best way to make a crewcab is to get another 40 cab and splice them together, this is what we are going to do with my sons truck. Ron...
Ron, a 40s COE cab or some other sort of cab like the chevys that mate together??? Trying to find a second COE, will be tough for me out here.
heres my free one
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Dave, my old purple COE was on a 74 dodge 3/4 ton chassis and I have built or am building my COE's on mid 70's 1 ton chevy dually chassis and these work out great.
I have not yet done one on a dodge diesel chassis but we have plans to build one and it will be a clubcab COE and my son is looking for a late 90's turbo diesel to do a crewcab dodge 4X4 truck.
mating a sleeper to the cab is easier than building a crewcab but either way is pretty cool for a hauler..
these trucks seam to fit on most later chassis pretty good I have one going on a Dakota chassis and that one fits great also.
I believe that the engine and trans would have to be moved back behind the cab or the cab would have to be mounted pretty high to clear the turbo diesel engine or there will be a BIG engine cover in the cab.
the best way to make a crewcab is to get another 40 cab and splice them together, this is what we are going to do with my sons truck. Ron...
heres my free one
also, you got that one FREE??? Was it already fabed as well and if so  this is for you! Just kidding, I am soo very jealous. And be very glad you live 10 hours away, or I would be over there every day bugging and learning from you.
Dave
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No Dave any 39-47 dodge cab will work for the extended cab part and you need to use a dodge because the body lines need to line up. Ron...
So if I found a couple of beater cabs, I could make a nice six door??? HUMMMMMMMMM
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No Dave any 39-47 dodge cab will work for the extended cab part and you need to use a dodge because the body lines need to line up. Ron...
So if I found a couple of beater cabs, I could make a nice six door??? HUMMMMMMMMM
Dave
YES you can
here are a few coe's for some ideas how they can be done.
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Ron, I'd guess that you center the wheels first, then drop the body down until it hits, then lift an inch or so, then build mounts. The shifter and gas pedal are simple, cooling may need adjustment to fit the opening, and you want some decent access to the motor/trans.
The brakes will require remounting and making sure that the pedal ratio works.
How do you handle the steering? Lawfish's body looks like it already has a later model column.
I see the Rust primer build shot shows a forward-mount box and a couple joints to mate with the column.
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how do the frame rails on a 1-ton frame compare to the width of a standard frame?
new cab mounts?
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73 Dodge Charger SE 440+6 727 Dana 60 4.10
78 Chrysler Cordoba 400-4 727 9 1/4 3.21
1999 Dodge Diesel 2500 QuadCab Longbox
2004 Dodge Durango HEMI Limited
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the frames from most newer trucks work out great, I haven't found one that wouldn/t work out somehow, I have seen COEs on chevy 1 ton chassis and Dodge full size and Dakota chassis and even on an astrovan chassis. the astrovan chassis is great for building a COE PU style truck as it has 5 lug wheels a huge sway bar and 13" rotors and the steering box is mounted straight up so the steering column works out fantastic, it is a front subframe that unbolts form the astrovan and you just graph a rear frame to it and your ready to go. the way I do mine is I crank down the front end to about ride height(or cut coils) and set the body and fenders on the frame where the steering box just misses the front fender and I mount the body low with about 3-4" to the fender and set it up on blocks of wood and then I start making body mounts. most of the time I change the wheelwell opening as the stock opening is way to large (like around 43") and sometimes I remake the opening all together. I also widen most of the fenders 2-3" for better clearence because I like my COE's very low. and making a column work, i have used mid 70's tilt columns but the newer FWD cars have very short columns and a nice ujoint, remember you sit much closer to the steering box so the column will be straighter up than in most trucks. Like any other streetrod you have to fabricate things to make them work for you Ron...
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Here is a 45 COE with a cummins work in progress http://rides.webshots.com/album/104898540GiZaNR
67 Ply. Belvedere II 2dr Hardtop
73 Dodge Charger SE 440+6 727 Dana 60 4.10
78 Chrysler Cordoba 400-4 727 9 1/4 3.21
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the frames from most newer trucks work out great, I haven't found one that wouldn/t work out somehow,
I have seen COEs on chevy 1 ton chassis and Dodge full size and Dakota chassis and even on an astrovan chassis. the astrovan chassis is great for building a COE PU style truck as it has 5 lug wheels a huge sway bar and 13" rotors and the steering box is mounted straight up so the steering column works out fantastic, it is a front subframe that unbolts form the astrovan and you just graph a rear frame to it and your ready to go.
the way I do mine is I crank down the front end to about ride height(or cut coils) and set the body and fenders on the frame where the steering box just misses the front fender and I mount the body low with about 3-4" to the fender and set it up on blocks of wood and then I start making body mounts.
most of the time I change the wheelwell opening as the stock opening is way to large (like around 43") and sometimes I remake the opening all together. I also widen most of the fenders 2-3" for better clearence because I like my COE's very low.
and making a column work, i have used mid 70's tilt columns but the newer FWD cars have very short columns and a nice ujoint, remember you sit much closer to the steering box so the column will be straighter up than in most trucks.
Like any other streetrod you have to fabricate things to make them work for you Ron...
WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WILLIS? OK, I thought that an ASTRO VAN meant chebbie????
Did dodge make an astro van as well, ????
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Hey Ron I checked out he other links of COE's
This one looks familiar
67 Ply. Belvedere II 2dr Hardtop
73 Dodge Charger SE 440+6 727 Dana 60 4.10
78 Chrysler Cordoba 400-4 727 9 1/4 3.21
1999 Dodge Diesel 2500 QuadCab Longbox
2004 Dodge Durango HEMI Limited
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I would really like a COE diesel hauler to be totally honest and something with some length to it, like a crew cab, ect. Something to haul the family to a show with the 38 on back of it or pick up cars,and so forth. However, I feel that with my limited mechanical skills, a COE truck on a Dakota or full size truck/ gas would be best for my first try. As I have stated before. I have the shop and some equipment and love doing the body and paint, but I am NO mechanic and live in the middle of no where and only see friends when they want free parts. So I am on my own. But I found a diesel in the link below and it looks like more work that I can do without spending a ton to someone for help or someone elses knowledge and work. I GET TOTALLY LOST when talking about moving an engine to behind the cab, ect. I dont know diesels either, as I only change the oil in both of my trucks 2005 diesel dually and 95) as they have not needed any labor and the 05 is under warranty. Now if I lived close to a guy like Ron, then I know where I would spend my time and $$$$. So maybe a mid 90s or so gas truck chassis is where I should use this cab if I get it. The first car I ever built was my 70 cuda vert. That was not a wise decision and this diesel hauler idea sounds like I would end up with a non finished truck in my yard for years. I hate to admit it, but knowing ones limitations is key. So, Ron, if I do the truck on a gas powered chassis, then I can geep the engine where it is and is there any reason to shoot for a mid 90s truck as opposed to a late 80s, ect. They are about the same as far as things go? I would just be interested in A.C and power items , like brakes, ect. Now, my next question. do I fab a bed, or use parts from various trucks, if one does go with a hauler, where do you find a slid bed and other oddball items like that? Thanks for all the info. Dave a ford hauler on a cummins chassis link http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displayalbum.php?albumid=32741its alos on here as well/ http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/dev/member.php?u=25553
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