Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
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01/12/15 12:30 PM
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I need to vent on some of the posters on this thread.
Why is it that everyone is always faster and can beat anyone any time but you never pull your nuts from your pocket and put your car on a trailer and go see them? If you are that fast and that great then go race them. I bet you get your ass handed to you, if you don't then you can make your own list of guys in your area and claim to be the fastest. I for one will never have a car that even comes close to what these guys run, but I would listen to every word they say on how they can get what they have hooked up and gone. No matter what speed or time you run, they have some good advice for you to listen to. Is it T.V.? Yes!! Is it fun to watch? Yes!! But if you really watch the show you will learn something as well. I would love to have the ability to run that fast and I know it doesn't happen overnight, for my car probly never. I would love to sit, talk and listen to them all on how they make it work on the street, and as slow as my car is, it doesn't like the street with slicks, I know that so I don't race on the street, (If you can’t swim do you jump in the pool?)
I just wish once on here somebody would just not knock someone or something down,
When a person or group of persons does that it shows fear, stupidity and jealousy.
I just wanted to vent, now come after me for saying my car is slow, and that I think the outlaws are a great bunch of guys. It’s my opinion
Thank you Kiddart
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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01/12/15 12:44 PM
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But nitrous isnt flammable.. its a oxidizer
Oxygen bearing compound is how it was explained to me. But you have to admit , it sure enhances an explosion.
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
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01/12/15 12:52 PM
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But nitrous isnt flammable.. its a oxidizer
Oxygen bearing compound is how it was explained to me. But you have to admit , it sure enhances an explosion.
Oh yeah... I MIGHT even hang a bottle on my Rampage just for kicks... just with a 100 shot or something like that.. I'll see if the injectors will cover a small hit
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
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01/12/15 02:53 PM
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Oh yeah... I MIGHT even hang a bottle on my Rampage just for kicks... just with a 100 shot or something like that.. I'll see if the injectors will cover a small hit
NX Nitrous Express Proton Plus Nitrous System is perfect what what you want to do!
Is that JUST nitrous that it sprays in... I am hoping that the small amount I want to use that the injectors will respond fast enough and have enough volume(should).. but the O2 still has to correct the fuel for it.. so is that time frame close enough... I have never used nitrous on my own junk.. just installed it for other people
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
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01/12/15 02:58 PM
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But nitrous isnt flammable.. its a oxidizer
Oxygen bearing compound is how it was explained to me. But you have to admit , it sure enhances an explosion.
Oh yeah... I MIGHT even hang a bottle on my Rampage just for kicks... just with a 100 shot or something like that.. I'll see if the injectors will cover a small hit
NX Nitrous Express Proton Plus Nitrous System is perfect what what you want to do!
I can't see how that is remotely what he needs. For one, it is a single nozzle, so exactly where do you intend to put that?......Two, its a wet kit. MrP has a 100% ready to go system control built into the ECU he has to control a DRY kit. All MrP needs is a simple plate under the throttle body and a nitrous solenoid. Activate the nitrous controls in the ECU and spray it dry. If he wanted to, you put a solenoid on each bar in the plate and you have a two stage
Monte
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
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01/12/15 04:49 PM
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I can't see how that is remotely what he needs. For one, it is a single nozzle, so exactly where do you intend to put that?......Two, its a wet kit. MrP has a 100% ready to go system control built into the ECU he has to control a DRY kit. All MrP needs is a simple plate under the throttle body and a nitrous solenoid. Activate the nitrous controls in the ECU and spray it dry. If he wanted to, you put a solenoid on each bar in the plate and you have a two stage
Monte
Monte.. saying that I do this... what size jet of nitrous would be like a 100hp.. and I'm guessing that that the O2 will correct the fuel in time to not lean it out so bad that it hurts something... then also, how much timing do you pull for a 100 shot(4*).. I do like the idea of using both bars but most likely wont.... but you never know... LOL thanks
Oh yes, we know! It will start at 100, then 125, then 150, then 200....
Gone to the dark side with an LS3 powered '57 Chevy 210
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
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01/12/15 05:50 PM
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Monte.. saying that I do this... what size jet of nitrous would be like a 100hp.. and I'm guessing that that the O2 will correct the fuel in time to not lean it out so bad that it hurts something... then also, how much timing do you pull for a 100 shot(4*).. I do like the idea of using both bars but most likely wont.... but you never know... LOL thanks
Won't it already run better than 10.oh on motor?
I look forward to seeing that thing at the track this season!
This is for the... just in case.. if it hooks then it shouldnt be needed.. I will have to play with the chassis and shocks.. doing the math it should be quicker than I want
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
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01/12/15 10:19 PM
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I wish they would make their minds up on the new Fully Street Legal only class for this year.They are only going to run a few Big $$$ races and they keep changing there minds over NOS or no NOS.It will be a fun class to race Heads Up but it must be a 100% street legal car & have working heat and a/c,street legal tires but no mods to inner or out fenders.And best of all it will pay good $$$.
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
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01/13/15 12:40 AM
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It's all about the chassis set up. Has little to do with hp. If they were so bad ass they would show up at one of the big heads up events with their cars/trucks. Instead they are there walking around all cocky and stuck up. I saw Daddy Dave in Georgia without his truck. I've been to Tulsa and none of them or their cars were there. I'll run anyone of them for 10k on a prepped track with N/T on my windshield. The streets they are racing on are fairly well prepped. There's alot of rubber down on every starting line they show on tv. It's a show and things are not all as it appears. Yes they have some bad rides for sure but not as bad as you might think for what's under the hood. And Farm truck won't run a 5 anything! Bet that!
I always find this type stuff humorous.......so why, would they bring their cars, which are setup for the STREET to a heads up event, prepped for radials.......why would they do that. They KNOW they would get their asses handed to them and they will tell you that..............BUT, you take your RACE car out there and run them in THEIR environment, you are likely to get humbled VERY quickly. What a car runs on the track, means very little as to what it will do on a public street, whether it has some rubber on it or not.
And when I said above that 6 of the cars on the list will run sub 5 sec ETs.........that is NOT what they run at the TRACK. That is what they run ON THE STREET, when they make good clean passes. And the reason I say this, is because I KNOW this. I have seen the data. Not rocket science to lay a street graph, on top of a race track graph, where you know the ET it ran and compare the data.
These guys are NOT setup for track racing. The cars have lots of bite, lots of rear percentage and loose suspension. NONE of which is condusive to stellar ETs on a prepped track..........but does it work on the street.........yes it does. Long list of guys who think it's easy and are going to go out there and show the "Outlaws" what's what. Funny thing is........it hasn't happened yet.
Jeff Lutz told me face to face, that when he went out there, he left the same tune in the 57 that had just gone 6.80s at 215 in Baytown and that it made a surprisingly clean pass down the street. The Sonoma marched away from him on the street..........That's pretty fast.
Bottom line, you think you got what it takes to "show them"........all you have to do......is go do it
Chads Buick has a 5.0 bore space motor. We run 4 teens on radials. I could put Doc's motor in our car and probably go 4.20s-.30s as his stuff is not quite as good as ours. Now, am I saying Doc's car should go that fast at the track if properly setup.......maybe, if it was setup right and at the same weight as us......but it's NOT and it WON'T. What I AM saying though, is we take Chad's Buick out there, even with 10.5 slicks on it and we are going to have a BAD day on the street..........On BIG tires, might be a different story, but that's a moot point, because that is not what we have
Monte
I'm a converted street racer, I use to kill numerous track cars with my 93 dodge dakota grudge truck. They all thought the same as most here, thier track car was gonna bust my ass on the street... NOPE! I would take teack car money 99% of the time. small tire on a track is good, small tire track car on the street is just gonna spin off into a ditch. I'm changing my suspension tune in my truck for the track as Monte already stated it is too much bite and too soft for the track.
2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads 1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel. motor; 10.258 @ 132.78 200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69 racemagnum
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: slammedR/T]
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01/13/15 02:18 PM
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Can anyone answer this question?
What is the second exhaust pipe that comes out of the murder nova?? its much smaller than the one next to it, from what I can see its only on one side?
Thank you Kiddart
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: Kiddart]
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01/13/15 02:26 PM
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Can anyone answer this question?
What is the second exhaust pipe that comes out of the murder nova?? its much smaller than the one next to it, from what I can see its only on one side?
one is the exhaust from the turbo, the other I bet is the BOV, just a guess others can tell you for sure.
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