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Wow......... talk about going down a rabbit hole! The OP asked opinions about a fair priced seemingly decent shock and it's made it's way to pro stockers. I don't know anyone on here who runs one or qualified to comment on them other than their own opinion as far as that goes.


No point in me asking about Strange shocks now, as I now know unless they are Santuffs or custom valved they are junk, no matter how slow your car.

Come on warm weather!!!

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Monte actually said the strange shocks are a good shock.

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Wow......... talk about going down a rabbit hole! The OP asked opinions about a fair priced seemingly decent shock and it's made it's way to pro stockers. I don't know anyone on here who runs one or qualified to comment on them other than their own opinion as far as that goes.


No point in me asking about Strange shocks now, as I now know unless they are Santuffs or custom valved they are junk, no matter how slow your car.

Come on warm weather!!!

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Monte actually said the strange shocks are a good shock.

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Talk to Mike Roth @ MR2 Performance..

I got Strange shocks through him. Very knowledgeable about shocks.

He told me for what I was doing, (S/ST) Strange was fine. BUT..

If I wanted the BEST Shock... "Santuff"

mr2performance@sbcglobal.net

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Some miss the point of what shocks DO. If your car works OK, you put better shocks on and don't change a thing on the car, you shouldn't expect results, because you haven't done anything. You have to maximize the combination.

On our car for instance, even on flypaper tracks, if we tried to push it much past a 1.14 or so 60ft, it would knock the tires off. Then we put the Santhuffs on and were able to push the car harder, with a best 60ft of 1.07 and doing that consistently. We now have the Menscer shocks and are pushing harder, with a best so far of 1.05, after one race of testing. Our goal now is to go a 1.00 flat on a radial. I think these shocks will allow us to do that.

So to summarize here...........if you car is dead hooking now, printing identical 60fts every pass and you do NOT have the ability to hit it harder, nor are you planning anything to hit it harder, you likely don't need shocks. But MANY guys do have consistency problems that many times can be related to shocks. Meaning on similar track and weather conditions, the 60fts vary a lot. If this is the case, you likely need shocks

Monte

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Think I'm gonna get with Menscer instead

7in cn rear and 4 inch front stock mt


Excellent control and user friendly adjustment. world record setting performance in an affordable package.

Can be configured to mount in most stock mount applications.

Packages starting at $949.00

that is a really good price and tuned to your car/truck

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Some miss the point of what shocks DO. If your car works OK, you put better shocks on and don't change a thing on the car, you shouldn't expect results, because you haven't done anything. You have to maximize the combination.

On our car for instance, even on flypaper tracks, if we tried to push it much past a 1.14 or so 60ft, it would knock the tires off. Then we put the Santhuffs on and were able to push the car harder, with a best 60ft of 1.07 and doing that consistently. We now have the Menscer shocks and are pushing harder, with a best so far of 1.05, after one race of testing. Our goal now is to go a 1.00 flat on a radial. I think these shocks will allow us to do that.

So to summarize here...........if you car is dead hooking now, printing identical 60fts every pass and you do NOT have the ability to hit it harder, nor are you planning anything to hit it harder, you likely don't need shocks. But MANY guys do have consistency problems that many times can be related to shocks. Meaning on similar track and weather conditions, the 60fts vary a lot. If this is the case, you likely need shocks

Monte

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Think I'm gonna get with Menscer instead

7in cn rear and 4 inch front stock mt


Excellent control and user friendly adjustment. world record setting performance in an affordable package.

Can be configured to mount in most stock mount applications.

Packages starting at $949.00

that is a really good price and tuned to your car/truck

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Some miss the point of what shocks DO. If your car works OK, you put better shocks on and don't change a thing on the car, you shouldn't expect results, because you haven't done anything. You have to maximize the combination.

On our car for instance, even on flypaper tracks, if we tried to push it much past a 1.14 or so 60ft, it would knock the tires off. Then we put the Santhuffs on and were able to push the car harder, with a best 60ft of 1.07 and doing that consistently. We now have the Menscer shocks and are pushing harder, with a best so far of 1.05, after one race of testing. Our goal now is to go a 1.00 flat on a radial. I think these shocks will allow us to do that.

So to summarize here...........if you car is dead hooking now, printing identical 60fts every pass and you do NOT have the ability to hit it harder, nor are you planning anything to hit it harder, you likely don't need shocks. But MANY guys do have consistency problems that many times can be related to shocks. Meaning on similar track and weather conditions, the 60fts vary a lot. If this is the case, you likely need shocks

Monte

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Think I'm gonna get with Menscer instead

7in cn rear and 4 inch front stock mt


Excellent control and user friendly adjustment. world record setting performance in an affordable package.

Can be configured to mount in most stock mount applications.

Packages starting at $949.00

that is a really good price and tuned to your car/truck

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He also does strange shocks, so he could revalve your existing shocks.

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I'm getting ready to make shock purchase myself and want to put some double adjustable shocks up front on our Plymouth Duster. Our plan is to purchase some shocks from one of the shock builders(Mans, Menscer, Bell, etc) so they are valved exactly for our application. The great thing is that they will know the limitations of each shock design and can tell me just how good one is compared to the other once revalved. Right now, I'm leaning towards getting strange double adjustable's for the front but we will see once I get some feedback. This will give me enough information to make an educated purchase I think.

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Menscer is the man. if I had the money and if I had a real race car, that is where I would spend it.

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Just got off the phone with them, they quoted $800 for a custom valved set for my application. I was told there is a difference in the type of valving between the Afco shock and the QA1, Strange, and Viking shocks which have a direct affect on the sensitivity and level of adjustment. Based on my conversation with them, that's what I gathered. I'm looking forward to hearing back from the other builders I contacted to get a little more info.

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That right there really pisses me off....................STILL makin em too short..............

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That right there really pisses me off....................STILL makin em too short..............

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Monte..For an off the shelf shock are all of the extended lengths standard? Just asking. Thanks!

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.......3/8 of an inch......really?...........we are complaining about 3/8 of an inch less travel. For one, you need to check and see if the shock even keeps the suspension from full droop and secondly, very few cars NEED that much travel anyway.

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I think I was complaining more about the direction these threads turn sometimes, not about 3/8 of an inch. Was just reporting my findings between two shocks. I thought guys replacing Calvert with Vikings may find the info helpful. My Calvert front shocks DID slightly keep the suspension from full droop to which I added washers to compensate. With the Vikings I had to add more washers to the stud so the suspension was not hanging from shock at full droop on a '64 B Body.

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.......3/8 of an inch......really?...........we are complaining about 3/8 of an inch less travel. For one, you need to check and see if the shock even keeps the suspension from full droop and secondly, very few cars NEED that much travel anyway.

Monte

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I think I was complaining more about the direction these threads turn sometimes, not about 3/8 of an inch. Was just reporting my findings between two shocks. I thought guys replacing Calvert with Vikings may find the info helpful. My Calvert front shocks DID slightly keep the suspension from full droop to which I added washers to compensate. With the Vikings I had to add more washers to the stud so the suspension was not hanging from shock at full droop on a '64 B Body.

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If the washers cost $1000.00,,,you should be OK. Gotta' spend money to go fast.