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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: ] #1724731
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I'm thinking about a shock upgrade myself so I'm keeping an eye on these shock threads. Calvert fronts & 9 way Ranchos now. Can't help but wonder what guys like Dick Landy ran for shocks back in the 60s-70s




They used JUNK.... the BIGGEST jumps in performance
in the last 35 years has been shocks and tires





Wow, I usually just lurk around here.....but that is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.......

Pro-stocks have went from 8.50's at 155 mph in 1980....to 6.50 at 212 mph.....so 2 seconds and near 60 mph improvement...is mostly from shocks and tires.....wow.....

I'll take the 6.50 212mph car and throw 1980 shocks and tires on it.....I bet it would still run 7's at close to 200 mph.....

Throw some current shocks and tires on a 1980 Pro-stocker and I bet it doesn't pick up much......maybe a few tenths and probably no mph.....




Oh well.... try it and see... if you dont think
that the biggest gains arent from shocks and tires
you better go rethink it... they have had plenty
of power





Wow, you continue to amaze.....you are standing by your statement....I am speechless




With out the tires to day it wouldn't be close as to what they run. You put a old slick on a new pro stock and it wouldn't go anywhere close to sevens.


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: ] #1724732
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I'm thinking about a shock upgrade myself so I'm keeping an eye on these shock threads. Calvert fronts & 9 way Ranchos now. Can't help but wonder what guys like Dick Landy ran for shocks back in the 60s-70s




They used JUNK.... the BIGGEST jumps in performance
in the last 35 years has been shocks and tires





Wow, I usually just lurk around here.....but that is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.......

Pro-stocks have went from 8.50's at 155 mph in 1980....to 6.50 at 212 mph.....so 2 seconds and near 60 mph improvement...is mostly from shocks and tires.....wow.....

I'll take the 6.50 212mph car and throw 1980 shocks and tires on it.....I bet it would still run 7's at close to 200 mph.....

Throw some current shocks and tires on a 1980 Pro-stocker and I bet it doesn't pick up much......maybe a few tenths and probably no mph.....




Oh well.... try it and see... if you dont think
that the biggest gains arent from shocks and tires
you better go rethink it... they have had plenty
of power





Wow, you continue to amaze.....you are standing by your statement....I am speechless




Yes... I even bought a set of shocks from Dick..
junk... but I guess you like your C-body or truck
shocks

Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: ] #1724733
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I wouldn't be able to turn on the nitrous with out these. Not even a remote possibility with factory shocks.

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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1724734
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I'm thinking about a shock upgrade myself so I'm keeping an eye on these shock threads. Calvert fronts & 9 way Ranchos now. Can't help but wonder what guys like Dick Landy ran for shocks back in the 60s-70s




They used JUNK.... the BIGGEST jumps in performance
in the last 35 years has been shocks and tires





Wow, I usually just lurk around here.....but that is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.......

Pro-stocks have went from 8.50's at 155 mph in 1980....to 6.50 at 212 mph.....so 2 seconds and near 60 mph improvement...is mostly from shocks and tires.....wow.....

I'll take the 6.50 212mph car and throw 1980 shocks and tires on it.....I bet it would still run 7's at close to 200 mph.....

Throw some current shocks and tires on a 1980 Pro-stocker and I bet it doesn't pick up much......maybe a few tenths and probably no mph.....




Oh well.... try it and see... if you dont think
that the biggest gains arent from shocks and tires
you better go rethink it... they have had plenty
of power





Wow, you continue to amaze.....you are standing by your statement....I am speechless




With out the tires to day it wouldn't be close as to what they run. You put a old slick on a new pro stock and it wouldn't go anywhere close to sevens.



well, I am sure they had 14-32's in 1980, and they have been on 7 second cars........

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I would be able to turn on the nitrous with out these. Not even a remote possibility with factory shocks.




So you just started running nitrous since you bought these shocks ??

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well, I am sure they had 14-32's in 1980, and they have been on 7 second cars........




You are aware that the pro stock car of today uses
electronically controlled shocks.. just in case you
didnt know.... ask a pro stock crew chief if he wants
to use the shocks of the old days... see what he says

Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: ] #1724737
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I would be able to turn on the nitrous with out these. Not even a remote possibility with factory shocks.




So you just started running nitrous since you bought these shocks ??



Where in Wisconsin are you from? You must have something fast with all that knowledge?
It's a shame your reading comprehension skills are well below standard.

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I wouldn't be able to turn on the nitrous with out these. Not even a remote possibility with factory shocks.




So you just started running nitrous since you bought these shocks ??




No I have run nitrous for many years. It wasn't till I installed a w-series headed engine in my car that I needed those (730 hp before nitrous). At lower power levels you can run factory shocks but when you start making a lot of hp the rest of your program needs to match.

Just curious what type of race car do you tune and what speeds have you achieved with it?


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1724739
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I should have stated that those old day shocks are
junk in comparison of todays shocks... but I still
stand by the fact of the shocks and tires

Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1724740
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I should have stated that those old day shocks are
junk in comparison of todays shocks... but I still
stand by the fact of the shocks and tires





Yes you are probably right but pro stock and small tire racing wouldn't be any where close to what they are with out the improvements in tires and shocks. You can look at the speeds they had five years ago to today and see.


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1724741
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Mr Ps point was, that if you take a modern pro-stocker and apply early tire and shock technology, it would slow WAY down. Yes, they make way more power now, but power management has grown leaps and bounds MORE than power development over the years.

As to what they ran back then.........yeah, it was best available at the time, but that stuff is junk compared to todays.

Probably more of an apples to apples comparison, in regards to POWER, engine size and weight, would be to compare a modern SS/AH car, to an early Pro-Stock. The AH cars are much faster. Much of that is related to stuff OTHER than power.

Monte

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Wow......... talk about going down a rabbit hole! The OP asked opinions about a fair priced seemingly decent shock and it's made it's way to pro stockers. I don't know anyone on here who runs one or qualified to comment on them other than their own opinion as far as that goes.


No point in me asking about Strange shocks now, as I now know unless they are Santuffs or custom valved they are junk, no matter how slow your car.

Come on warm weather!!!

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Wow......... talk about going down a rabbit hole! The OP asked opinions about a fair priced seemingly decent shock and it's made it's way to pro stockers. I don't know anyone on here who runs one or qualified to comment on them other than their own opinion as far as that goes.


No point in me asking about Strange shocks now, as I now know unless they are Santuffs or custom valved they are junk, no matter how slow your car.

Come on warm weather!!!




Sorry didnt mean to go of subject... as to the Strange..
I have the struts in front and Strange on the rear
of the Rampage... I dont know about the track yet
but I like the adjustability for the street.. they
do tend to tighten right up on extension

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Wow......... talk about going down a rabbit hole! The OP asked opinions about a fair priced seemingly decent shock and it's made it's way to pro stockers. I don't know anyone on here who runs one or qualified to comment on them other than their own opinion as far as that goes.


No point in me asking about Strange shocks now, as I now know unless they are Santuffs or custom valved they are junk, no matter how slow your car.

Come on warm weather!!!




Sorry didnt mean to go of subject... as to the Strange..
I have the struts in front and Strange on the rear
of the Rampage... I dont know about the track yet
but I like the adjustability for the street.. they
do tend to tighten right up on extension






HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD YOUR HANDS ARE NOT A SHOCK DYNO!!!! Geeeze


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HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD YOUR HANDS ARE NOT A SHOCK DYNO!!!! Geeeze




That was on the car Ray.. I dont normally push and
pull them on the bench unless they need to be cycled

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HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD YOUR HANDS ARE NOT A SHOCK DYNO!!!! Geeeze




That was on the car Ray.. I dont normally push and
pull them on the bench unless they need to be cycled





I just felt like yelling at someone


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HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD YOUR HANDS ARE NOT A SHOCK DYNO!!!! Geeeze




That was on the car Ray.. I dont normally push and
pull them on the bench unless they need to be cycled





I just felt like yelling at someone




Its alright... seems I have been getting yelled at
a fair amount lately...so you can too

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Mr Ps point was, that if you take a modern pro-stocker and apply early tire and shock technology, it would slow WAY down. Yes, they make way more power now, but power management has grown leaps and bounds MORE than power development over the years.

As to what they ran back then.........yeah, it was best available at the time, but that stuff is junk compared to todays.

Probably more of an apples to apples comparison, in regards to POWER, engine size and weight, would be to compare a modern SS/AH car, to an early Pro-Stock. The AH cars are much faster. Much of that is related to stuff OTHER than power.

Monte




I still don't see how a shock will add 30, 40, 50, 60 MPH.......These silly engine builders/developers never realized their time would be better spent on shocks.....LOL

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Mr Ps point was, that if you take a modern pro-stocker and apply early tire and shock technology, it would slow WAY down. Yes, they make way more power now, but power management has grown leaps and bounds MORE than power development over the years.

As to what they ran back then.........yeah, it was best available at the time, but that stuff is junk compared to todays.

Probably more of an apples to apples comparison, in regards to POWER, engine size and weight, would be to compare a modern SS/AH car, to an early Pro-Stock. The AH cars are much faster. Much of that is related to stuff OTHER than power.

Monte




I still don't see how a shock will add 30, 40, 50, 60 MPH.......These silly engine builders/developers never realized their time would be better spent on shocks.....LOL




I see your new and I sure dont want to drive you away
but... you can make all the HP you want but if you
cant apply it to the track.. its wasted HP.. in other
words... did you REALLY make more power

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Wow......... talk about going down a rabbit hole! The OP asked opinions about a fair priced seemingly decent shock and it's made it's way to pro stockers. I don't know anyone on here who runs one or qualified to comment on them other than their own opinion as far as that goes.


No point in me asking about Strange shocks now, as I now know unless they are Santuffs or custom valved they are junk, no matter how slow your car.

Come on warm weather!!!




Monte actually said the strange shocks are a good shock.


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