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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1724671
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He`s done some drag racing stuff but as many on here stated, the shocks job is to CONTROL the housing and after seeing video or real time leaves of my car he`s positive they will be WAY better than my 5-way Ranchos............we`ll see.


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: Thumperdart] #1724672
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He`s done some drag racing stuff but as many on here stated, the shocks job is to CONTROL the housing and after seeing video or real time leaves of my car he`s positive they will be WAY better than my 5-way Ranchos............we`ll see.




Since he is in the shock game.. he should have a
decent idea after seeing vid... and also knowing the
torque and gear ratios.. and I would say he has access
to a shock dyno

Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1724673
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He`s done some drag racing stuff but as many on here stated, the shocks job is to CONTROL the housing and after seeing video or real time leaves of my car he`s positive they will be WAY better than my 5-way Ranchos............we`ll see.




Since he is in the shock game.. he should have a
decent idea after seeing vid... and also knowing the
torque and gear ratios.. and I would say he has access
to a shock dyno





They pay Wayne LOTS of money to go to off-road races all over the world and see first had what`s needed to better these vehicles and the same for drag cars just less of em. Met him and he`s a sharp dude w/LOTS of skills and I`m going over every inch of my car for my best and fastest pass yet then it`s time to either step up and cert/cage or chill and street race for more $$$$$$..............


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: Thumperdart] #1724674
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This is why I called Santhuff directly. They asked for all my info and built the shock I needed.no middleman and no problems.

Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: FastmOp] #1724675
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This is why I called Santhuff directly. They asked for all my info and built the shock I needed.no middleman and no problems.




The only issue I have with them is price.. I know I
cant/wont pay 3 times the price of a decent shock..
what does a set run.. $3000 or something..but thats just me

Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: FastmOp] #1724676
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I understand that and at this time that kind of coin isn`t available for shocks and what he`s saying is find a used pair cheap enuff and he`ll valve em for my car.


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: Thumperdart] #1724677
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FWI, over my friends house and he just got a brand new pair of afcos. I started playing with them and from 0 to 24 on either C or R there is hardly any difference. On full stiff i can still pull or push the shock. I cant do that with the vikings.

This made me feel better about my choice on buying the Vikings. I told my friend that IMO, I would rather my SA QA1's over his afcos. He said the reason he bought the afcos over the Vikings for his G body is because the afcos were cheaper. Maybe you do get what you pay for, in this case

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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: sixpackgut] #1724678
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That is good info sixpackgut I will probably buy me a set of the front shocks.


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: sixpackgut] #1724679
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I know this is apples to oranges but here goes. I have a friend that travels a lot setting up dirt cars for some very fast guys. He also sells a bunch of stuff for them. He and I were talking about my car and he tells me he can get just about any shock I want so I asked about Afco's, he told me to stay away from them that they were junk. Like I said apples to oranges so take this with a pound of salt. When I buy shocks most likely it will be Strange unless there are some really good results from the Vikings.

Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: justinp61] #1724680
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To put it very basically, shocks are 4 way adjustable. You have high and low speed damping on both compression and extension. The type suspension you have, the power level and how the car reacts, determine how the shock needs to be valved. Some cars need more early high speed damping on extension and some need more early low speed damping. Same goes for compression. This is where the "shock guy" should be able to help you. This is why no "off the shelf" shock is best for every car. With cheaper shocks, a lot of times the "upgrade" shock is simply stiffer valving but with really no change to high and low speed circuits...............Better shocks just cost more money and that's how it is. That is the reason my standard reply is buy the best shock you can afford

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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: sixpackgut] #1724681
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FWI, over my friends house and he just got a brand new pair of afcos. I started playing with them and from 0 to 24 on either C or R there is hardly any difference. On full stiff i can still pull or push the shock. I cant do that with the vikings.

This made me feel better about my choice on buying the Vikings. I told my friend that IMO, I would rather my SA QA1's over his afcos. He said the reason he bought the afcos over the Vikings for his G body is because the afcos were cheaper. Maybe you do get what you pay for, in this case




Then there is some thing wrong with his shocks. My front shocks are out of the box from afco and are not like that. He needs to send them to a shock guy or if they are new back to afco.


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1724682
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Some shocks need to be "charged"........meaning you have to do a certain thing when they are new, such as put them on a certain setting and pump them a few times. This guy needs to look as his instructions

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Some shocks need to be "charged"........meaning you have to do a certain thing when they are new, such as put them on a certain setting and pump them a few times. This guy needs to look as his instructions

Monte




I will let him know


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1724684
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Some shocks need to be "charged"........meaning you have to do a certain thing when they are new, such as put them on a certain setting and pump them a few times. This guy needs to look as his instructions

Monte




THIS...........Every shock I`ve ever installed needs to be cycled several times especially since they`re shipped laying down then you`ll start feelin em tighten up but don`t lay em back down again or you start over.......


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1724685
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Some shocks need to be "charged"........meaning you have to do a certain thing when they are new, such as put them on a certain setting and pump them a few times. This guy needs to look as his instructions

Monte




hey bought them thru Jegs, no instructions came with them. That is unbelievable to me. I am going to call afco for him later

well, I talked to tech, Nice guy. He gave me the "you can't compare what you do with your hands to what is going on with a car speech" that I already knew was coming.

Disclaimer: I may be dumb but I sure am slow. I like my Vikings better

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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: sixpackgut] #1724686
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With 9 way ranchos my best 60ft was 1.43, same setup with afco doubles best 60ft 1.36.
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: deaks] #1724687
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Deaks were you spinning when you got the best 60ft with the rancho shocks. The reason I ask is I am running the Rancho 9 way rear shocks also and thinking about trying double adjustable shocks. My best so far with the Rancho's has been 1.33.


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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: deaks] #1724688
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My 3260# pump gas small block street/strip Dart has been 1.41 in full street trim and 1.38 without the exhaust and air filter with Rancho 9 ways. Not saying they are good shocks, but the work ok on some cars.

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So Im making my friend crazy over these afco shocks he bought. He called TRZ which makes G Body chassis stuff I guess and they told him exactly what I said they would say which made him even more mad. TRZ said the afco shocks they sell are valved to their specs and he bought his from jegs

I have him mental right now

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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ? [Re: Thumperdart] #1724690
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My roomate`s sister is married to Wayne who was hired at a six-digit figure to START at Fox Shocks Racing and told me personally to get him a Strange Q-A 1 or whatever(OK)shock and that he would re-valve em for me for $200. He knows Mercer and the other "Guru`s" on shocks and has nothing to say either way so that`s my route............




well how we contact him to set up some shock re-valving


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