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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
[Re: sixpackgut]
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01/09/15 06:44 PM
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^^^^^^ someone knows what they are talking about^^^^^^^^
I call BS. one mans junk is another mans treasure. as soon as I posted I bought shocks, I got offers to buy my old one's. Now, lets say I pay twice as much for a shock and then it needs to be "serviced". How much will I have invested in a pair of shocks. If I listened to everyone on why there stuff was worth 2 times or more, I would never have a running car. My car can be picked to death on this issue, from my $15 electric fans, Chinese crank, ebay AN fittings, knock off intake, cheap radiator, edelbrock carbs, my home made front steering and k frame, it never ends. My car is junk and I like it that way
thank god I never fell for the "you get what you pay for" from Barry Grant or crappy MSD distributers
That's why Baskin Robbins has so many favors of ice cream.
Purchased Afco da first then had them custom serviced and wow what a difference. But I like chocolate and you might not.
is it possible that they suck from the get go? I know nothing about shocks other than I just spent the most money I ever have on the Vikings and I am pleased with them. It would take someone like you to try them and give their feedback on the product 
I went from rancho and calverts to afco's, it took me a while to save the loot to do them but I wanted a really good shock. The first go round didn't work so well and I didn't see a improvement until I got the rears redone by Mark Menscer. So I don't think factory settings in a Viking would work for me either, but I don't know for sure. I have learned a lot from Mark on shocks and I might have been able to get the factory afco's to work so who knows.
Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
[Re: Dyno1]
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01/10/15 03:58 AM
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When you have a pair of QA1's or a shock like the Viking, they may work OK for you. If you need them worked on or serviced, throw them away and buy another set, the cost will be greater than what they are worth. If you have a quality shock like a Afco, Penske or JRI, you are getting what you pay for and if service or adjustment is needed, there are places where they can be serviced.
Do you just make this information up, or did you actually get it from Viking? Viking is NOT QA1- thats a fact. Maybe if you called them, asked them about the different shocks they sell, the difference between their rebuildable ones and non rebuildable ones, and the price to rebuild, you wouldn't be touting false information about them.
I am all for buying the best shock for your money, and agree it is one of the best things one can do for a racecar...Before cutting a company down as a copycat, maybe actually talking to them about the products they offer is a good idea since their rebuildable race shock is NOT their shelf shock that they advertise and sell.
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
[Re: mshred]
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01/10/15 03:57 PM
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When you have a pair of QA1's or a shock like the Viking, they may work OK for you. If you need them worked on or serviced, throw them away and buy another set, the cost will be greater than what they are worth. If you have a quality shock like a Afco, Penske or JRI, you are getting what you pay for and if service or adjustment is needed, there are places where they can be serviced.
Do you just make this information up, or did you actually get it from Viking? Viking is NOT QA1- thats a fact. Maybe if you called them, asked them about the different shocks they sell, the difference between their rebuildable ones and non rebuildable ones, and the price to rebuild, you wouldn't be touting false information about them.
I am all for buying the best shock for your money, and agree it is one of the best things one can do for a racecar...Before cutting a company down as a copycat, maybe actually talking to them about the products they offer is a good idea since their rebuildable race shock is NOT their shelf shock that they advertise and sell.
You do realize he does shocks for a living?
Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads
STR Chassis fabraction
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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01/10/15 07:08 PM
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When you have a pair of QA1's or a shock like the Viking, they may work OK for you. If you need them worked on or serviced, throw them away and buy another set, the cost will be greater than what they are worth. If you have a quality shock like a Afco, Penske or JRI, you are getting what you pay for and if service or adjustment is needed, there are places where they can be serviced.
Do you just make this information up, or did you actually get it from Viking? Viking is NOT QA1- thats a fact. Maybe if you called them, asked them about the different shocks they sell, the difference between their rebuildable ones and non rebuildable ones, and the price to rebuild, you wouldn't be touting false information about them.
I am all for buying the best shock for your money, and agree it is one of the best things one can do for a racecar...Before cutting a company down as a copycat, maybe actually talking to them about the products they offer is a good idea since their rebuildable race shock is NOT their shelf shock that they advertise and sell.
You do realize he does shocks for a living?
Great, doesnt change what I said though...Unless Viking was totally b.s'ing me on the phone when I ordered my rear shocks that have their new design made specifically for re-valving, then I stand by what I said.
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
[Re: Dyno1]
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01/10/15 08:02 PM
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Mr Dyno, I'm curious; When I bought my front shocks, I wanted Afco, but the "cheapest" I could find at the time was $700 for a pair. My question is: What is the lowest "I'll sell them every day of the year for that price" price that can be found on a set of Afcos. Granted, the Vikings will probably work for me, but if I ran low 9's instead of 10.90's I probably would have held out for the Afcos.
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
[Re: Dyno1]
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01/10/15 08:10 PM
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I could give you all the dirt on QA1 and Viking, but it is not necessary. The owner of Viking was the CEO of QA1 until he was released. He then opened up Viking 6 blocks from QA1. He had all the blueprints and contacts to go from one to the other, not saying that is bad. Many business people have sold out or started a similar business later on and do just fine. You make up your own mind. I am just saying you get what you pay for and either shock may be fine for what you are doing, but I would avoid them and buy a real shock designed for racing and that is really rebuildable and is worth your hard earned money. Not arguing with anyone.
Then I got con'd into their option for the re-valvable race shock if what they told me is a lie....Thought I would try out the "little guy" instead of Afco (not that there is anything wrong with Afco, couple of friends run them and love them), but it seems that is not the case...so far they are working good for me, hopefully that continues
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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01/11/15 02:57 AM
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All shocks operate in a window of rebound and compression. If a shock you buy works in the window of what you need, you are good to go. The problem is that many cars need something outside that window, that is when a different shock is needed or it needs to be revalved. The more you get into it, the more complex it becomes. There are people out there that can help a racer if needed. Many NHRA racers and chassis builders(stock to Pro Mod)have been going to Randy at Fastshocks. 612-306-5387. Give him a call for advice or a quote. I would recommend all racers to go through the staging lanes at a NHRA, IHRA, NMRA, and ask what racers are using and if they are happy with how the car is working. Not everyone needs the more expensive shocks, but again, you get what you pay for. If you have not serviced your shocks, now is the time to inspect them for leaks and get the oil changed and make sure they are still working correctly, you can not believe how black and stinky old shock oil can be.
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
[Re: Dyno1]
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01/11/15 12:38 PM
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I agree with you Dyno1. There is a window that the adjustment of the shock needs to work in. What makes the Penske Shock more expensive is our quality control, trackside support, and custom built for each individual person / cars needs. The shocks that you guys are all talking about could work. I have seen many guys get shocks from the auto parts store to work. Then there is the instant where you start going to other tracks and you need to be able to adjust. Not to mention and we have all done it where you make a mid season car adjustment. Then your chasing your set up. Our adjustment window is huge. I will never bash another brands shocks because they do work for some people. Our product works from my cal track 10.20 car all the way up to every pro stock car in the field.
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
[Re: Dyno1]
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01/11/15 01:29 PM
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Agreed. A suspension package is no different than an engine combination. All the parts have to compliment each other.
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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01/12/15 03:10 AM
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Has anybody purchase any custom Vikings from a shop like Chris Bell or similar? I wonder how they work after being massaged for your specific combo.
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