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#1716712 - 12/27/14 10:13 PM Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two
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OK so this year racing was not good to me. Had the car out 3/4 times and trouble every time. So after sitting at Norwalk in September I made a vow that I would get the 63 FIXED and I also will either have a spare engine or a spare race car for 2015 or both. Looks like a spare race car coming for now. My friend Dave (DoubleD) has also decided to get back in the game. So pulling out the 64 car thats been sitting in the corner for about 12 years or so - we are going together to build a spare car. Details as we figure it out but should be able to run NSS in the 11.0 or maybe 10.50 bracket and be a street car. It will be my spare and Dave will also use it and maybe even his son John. Heck my wife can drive it too as long as my car is still running


Going to be a kind of budget build using many parts that I have been finding in my garage along with a few new goodies. Dave is in charge here so he can do what he wants








Knock the dust off and get started ----

Hmmmm - wonder if Dave remembers how to stage and race a car


Edited by max_maniac (12/27/14 11:58 PM)
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#1716713 - 12/28/14 10:33 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Sooooo, you been holding out on me, didn't know you had that one,this could be interesting.
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#1716714 - 12/28/14 10:42 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dartman366]
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This is the engine that came out of it. I told Dave we could put on some chrome valve covers and them newfangled do dad plug wires and it should go 11's.



He looked at me kind of strange
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#1716715 - 12/28/14 10:47 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Somebody would probably have given you $500.00 for those 'original' transmission cooler lines,,but you bent them.
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#1716716 - 12/28/14 10:47 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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I may be a little rusty at driving but - I am sure I will figure it out again

We got lots of parts
Pistons - very light Mahle 520 grams
Eagle crank and rods - somewhere north of 500"

Heads - Choices - two versions of EZ's

Intakes take your choice of crossrams, tunnel rams and Mod Man or (gast) a single four barrel

A couple roller cams to choose from

A spare 727 and three converters

It like shopping at Summit!

Just time to get busy


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#1716717 - 12/28/14 10:49 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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#1716718 - 12/28/14 10:50 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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More choices


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#1716719 - 12/28/14 10:54 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Santa Brought this and a set of Aluminum main caps and girdle


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#1716720 - 12/28/14 10:59 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Don't forget about this





Better then any ole purple shaft cam
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#1716721 - 12/28/14 11:00 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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And from 1990 - the original Double D


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#1716722 - 12/28/14 11:14 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Hmmmm... I'd go with the tall ram and the bigger EZ's but then you would have to go with the tall wedge scoop(not a big fan of the tall ones) they look like a couple newspaper mailboxes stuck to the hood
Sounds like a fun project
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#1716723 - 12/28/14 11:14 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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This is the engine that came out of it. I told Dave we could put on some chrome valve covers and them newfangled do dad plug wires and it should go 11's.



He looked at me kind of strange



We could get Dizuster to turbo it
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#1716724 - 12/28/14 11:22 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dvw]
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I was thinking of putting a set of NOS fogger nozzles on it and just using the two barrel carburetor to start it and drive to the line - I bet it would go mid 11's once or twice!

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#1716725 - 12/28/14 03:36 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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That's awesome Russ

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#1716726 - 12/28/14 04:17 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: Wv68charger]
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Man you have some nice cars Russ. That thing is in great shape, especially the interior.
I vote on the tunnel ram with a Hilborn scoop sticking through the hood.


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#1716727 - 12/28/14 04:30 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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And from 1990 - the original Double D


Dave. you haven't changed a bit
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#1716728 - 12/28/14 05:54 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dartman366]
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Awesome Russ!!!

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#1716729 - 12/28/14 08:51 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dartman366]
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And from 1990 - the original Double D


Dave. you haven't changed a bit





Bill, Walt sent me a text and said - we're going to need more eggs

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#1716730 - 12/28/14 08:59 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Quote:

Quote:

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And from 1990 - the original Double D


Dave. you haven't changed a bit





Bill, Walt sent me a text and said - we're going to need more eggs





I like mine poached on dry toast!

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#1716731 - 12/28/14 09:04 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

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And from 1990 - the original Double D


Dave. you haven't changed a bit





Bill, Walt sent me a text and said - we're going to need more eggs





I like mine poached on dry toast!



Gotcha covered, heading for Krogers as we speak.
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#1716732 - 12/29/14 11:43 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dartman366]
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Russ, Did you sell your Challenger ?
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#1716733 - 12/30/14 05:26 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: demon440]
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Russ, Did you sell your Challenger ?





Still got it but never really activly put it up for sale. I will this year and if it's not gone by next winter it will become my NEXT race car project


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#1716734 - 12/30/14 05:56 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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You had the Challenger at Dragway42 the first day that we met you. I liked that car alot.

Dave, do you have any more photos of the original DoubleD? Looks awesome.

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#1716735 - 12/30/14 06:52 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: ProSport]
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#1716736 - 12/30/14 06:57 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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intakes






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#1716737 - 12/31/14 08:56 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: Chad Bittle]
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Lookin' good guys....be nice to see Dave out and driving again
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#1716738 - 01/04/15 06:47 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: Eric]
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Russ,know you battled lot of bad luck last year, you and I were in the same boat. Your taking it pretty serious though going to a multi car team with a Hired Gun for a driver and blocker. Don't know if NSS is ready for that. We'll all be watching to see if we see any cases of "team orders" when the Konkowski team cars roll up into the lights together. As long as you don't have the whole class complaining about the Konkowski Multi Car Team, sounds like a good plan.
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#1716739 - 01/06/15 11:28 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: wyoming]
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Wow, Russ. Another amazing car from the stable. Each one cooler than the last!! Are you related to Bob George? You guys have some amazing iron !!
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#1716740 - 01/06/15 11:42 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: sunroofgtx]
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Ok I guess I need to pull out all the stops to be competitive. I'm going to cover Dizusters turbo with a vacuformed cross ram so I can have
my own team car. Then we'll bring lots of giveaway beer.
Doug

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#1716741 - 01/07/15 04:32 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dvw]
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Oh not a bad idea Doug! Looks like I need to put a crossram on the golf cart!! That's the only chance I have for a team car haha

Any updates Russ?

Casey
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#1716742 - 01/08/15 05:40 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: Whompin_Wedge]
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Glen, Doug and Casey - we need to team together to take on that "Team Thug" group that has won the NSS Championship for the last 2 years in a row and gunning for a 3 peat!

Anyway we are working on the car. The block is at the machine shop right now and should get it back soon. In the meantime we are starting on all the other stuff such as ====


Getting ready to start cleaning up the engine bay:


Interior is out and have to start working on the "roll bar" install:


Front suspension coming apart for a rebuild and disc brake install:


Leaning towards this intake to start with but me thinks if we go to a different intake and depending on the final engine build maybe we should put in a "roll cage" instead of a bar



Alot of work to do but hoping to be ready this summer - we shall see.
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#1716743 - 01/09/15 08:28 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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"Leaning towards this intake to start with but me thinks if we go to a different intake and depending on the final engine build maybe we should put in a "roll cage" instead of a bar"

Oh Boy! here we go again - faster faster faster - by the way the front-end parts were delivered!!

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#1716744 - 01/09/15 04:54 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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You might be on to something there Russ!

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#1716745 - 01/09/15 05:13 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: Whompin_Wedge]
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I know of a race in late August you NSS guys might want to attend in Columbus...
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#1716746 - 01/09/15 07:35 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: RonTheAnnouncer]
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I know of a race in late August you NSS guys might want to attend in Columbus...



Tell more I'm making my schedule.




Glen, Doug and Casey - we need to team together to take on that "Team Thug" group that has won the NSS Championship for the last 2 years in a row and gunning for a 3 peat!
I'm thinkin "team poor boys"
Doug

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#1716747 - 01/09/15 09:29 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dvw]
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It was recently announced that NSS will have their own class at the independently promoted Auto Meter Northern Class Nationals...from Michael Beard of Loose Rocker:
Nostalgia Super Stock was a part of the original US Class Nationals, and from the beginning of the Northern Class Nationals we've had requests to include Nostalgia Super Stock in our program. This year, we will do so.

2nd Annual Auto Meter Northern Class Nationals
August 21-23, 2015
National Trail Raceway - Hebron, OH

This is the week before the NMCA event at Norwalk, so teams could make a swing out of things. The race will have live video coverage on MotorManiaTV.com

The plan would be for 2 qualifying runs Friday and 2 qualifying runs Saturday. NSS racers would be permitted to enter Saturday's NitroPlate S/SS Combo Warmup. NSS will have its own eliminator on Sunday. The entry fee would be in the $100-$120 range for $1,500 to win and paying at least 8 places. Naming Rights sponsorship on the class is available.
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#1716748 - 01/09/15 10:23 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: RonTheAnnouncer]
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#1716749 - 01/09/15 10:36 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: RonTheAnnouncer]
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I talked to Michael last year about including N/SS. He said they would consider it. The Loose Rocker series sounded very good when I talked to them. I'll put it on the schedule.
Doug

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#1716750 - 01/09/15 11:44 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dvw]
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That's my closest track, easy for me to go. Ill be planning on that one to.
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#1716751 - 01/10/15 09:03 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: RonTheAnnouncer]
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Quote:

It was recently announced that NSS will have their own class at the independently promoted Auto Meter Northern Class Nationals...from Michael Beard of Loose Rocker:
Nostalgia Super Stock was a part of the original US Class Nationals, and from the beginning of the Northern Class Nationals we've had requests to include Nostalgia Super Stock in our program. This year, we will do so.

2nd Annual Auto Meter Northern Class Nationals
August 21-23, 2015
National Trail Raceway - Hebron, OH

This is the week before the NMCA event at Norwalk, so teams could make a swing out of things. The race will have live video coverage on MotorManiaTV.com

The plan would be for 2 qualifying runs Friday and 2 qualifying runs Saturday. NSS racers would be permitted to enter Saturday's NitroPlate S/SS Combo Warmup. NSS will have its own eliminator on Sunday. The entry fee would be in the $100-$120 range for $1,500 to win and paying at least 8 places. Naming Rights sponsorship on the class is available.




I had heard they were planning on it! This is great news!
Casey
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#1716752 - 01/12/15 06:14 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: Whompin_Wedge]
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cool can should net some 10.00's not 10.50's

You NSS guys are always baggin

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#1716753 - 01/12/15 06:34 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: 340RICK]
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cool can should net some 10.00's not 10.50's

You NSS guys are always baggin



That's actually to just keep the beer cold while setting valve lash.
Doug

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#1716754 - 01/12/15 10:30 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dvw]
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cool can should net some 10.00's not 10.50's

You NSS guys are always baggin



That's actually to just keep the beer cold while setting valve lash.
Doug





Doug??? What you doing giving away our secret hiding hiding spot


Russ
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#1716755 - 03/07/15 05:48 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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A little update - the engine is coming together - the short block is done just your basic 512CI with aluminum main caps and a girdle - eagle rotating Assembly balanced at 2230 grams. all machined up and screwed together by Precision Automotive Machine It will get a set of EZ-1 and a nice special grind roller cam we had developed for the crossram. compression should be a ltlle over 12-1 depending on the final cc of the heads


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#1716756 - 03/07/15 05:49 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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another


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#1716757 - 03/07/15 05:50 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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another - Girdles are for fat chicks and fat cars


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#1716758 - 03/07/15 05:51 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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pistons - these are Mahle's nice pieces


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#1716759 - 03/07/15 05:53 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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The parts just keep coming - got some new shoes for the lady in red


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#1716760 - 03/07/15 05:54 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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more boxes - the UPS man is getting tired of stopping


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#1716761 - 03/07/15 05:57 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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So far the entire front suspension has been rebuilt disk brakes on all four corners and a new rear end has been slid underneath with a 4:56 gear and a spool - lots of old parts going to scrap yard soon

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#1716762 - 03/07/15 07:20 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Great project to follow!

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#1716763 - 03/07/15 10:23 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dvw]
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Quote:

Quote:

I know of a race in late August you NSS guys might want to attend in Columbus...



Tell more I'm making my schedule.




Glen, Doug and Casey - we need to team together to take on that "Team Thug" group that has won the NSS Championship for the last 2 years in a row and gunning for a 3 peat!
I'm thinkin "team poor boys"
Doug





Sounds good Doug. None of us run all those races in that circuit. But we can raise havoc on the few we go to.
Team Poor Boys


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#1716764 - 03/07/15 10:24 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: tboomer]
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Yeah buddy

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#1716765 - 03/07/15 10:32 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: Chad Bittle]
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Russ, I will let you bolt this on.


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#1947678 - 11/08/15 05:23 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: poppaj]
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It's been awhile since we updated the progress of Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two - The car had a custom roll bar, frame ties and fuel cell mounted up all installed By or good friend WJ440 (Walt) - we repainted the engine bay - plumbed all the brakes which are now four wheel disk brakes - installed a real nice S60 Dana - we figured the 8 3/4 while good would not live.
The motor and trans are complete - ready to drop in - I need to finish the wiring and plumbing yet and it should be ready to go by April


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#1948284 - 11/09/15 05:57 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Looking good Russ.

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#1948414 - 11/09/15 08:21 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Two cars means you have to bring twice the beer.
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#1948686 - 11/10/15 09:52 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Not a problem - mounted a cooler in the trunk as a weight box!

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#1948740 - 11/10/15 11:33 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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That will only work good if the weather gets poor by Sunday.
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#1948743 - 11/10/15 11:42 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Looks like fun. Going to try real hard this coming year to make a couple of these east side Mopar races. We are also bringing the heads up hotrod back here to race NMCA in Norwalk and Chicago.
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#1950306 - 11/12/15 10:21 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dvw]
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Originally Posted By dvw
Two cars means you have to bring twice the beer.
Doug



That much beer and none of us will be running the following day ---- eek


Funny part of this project is Dave has already planned the "next engine" for this car and I have not even blown up the current engine as it has not even been started shruggy I also think he may have to add more bars - whistling Yep it's a simple project that may be spiraling out of control BUT the car may fit into 2 classes with the new mill stirthepot
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#1950577 - 11/13/15 01:25 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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"Yep it's a simple project that may be spiraling out of control"

it's a budget build with an undefined budget! but somehow I think we will exceed that budget also!

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#1950631 - 11/13/15 03:18 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Sounds vaguely familiar.
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#1993228 - 01/18/16 09:07 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dannysbee]
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An update on Double Trouble - MM2 Engine and tranny are in and all hooked up - Andy's engine plate makes it easy - nice piece and worth the money. Interior is back in the entire car was re-wired - I put everything in the glove box which can be removed with four screws and slid out - the shifter is mounted up with a custom mount WJ440 made for us - works perfect with the bench seat. All the plumbing is done - the fuel system is a full return Holley regulator and big Holley pump we had on the shelf - getting there just a few more hook-ups and we should be able to fire it up


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#1993398 - 01/18/16 01:17 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Lookin good!
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#1993529 - 01/18/16 05:02 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Wow, we're getting fancy. You'll have to park that thing up front.
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#1993542 - 01/18/16 05:24 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dvw]
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You forgot the fuzzy dice. shruggy
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#1993629 - 01/18/16 07:00 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Looking very good
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#1993857 - 01/18/16 10:52 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dvw]
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Originally Posted By dvw
Wow, we're getting fancy. You'll have to park that thing up front.
Doug



No no no ----- not my style at all tsk

Lets just say it will NOT look that good by the time we get it to a track --- whistling



Hi Glenn ----- what day is this???? popcorn
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#1993923 - 01/19/16 06:20 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Originally Posted By max_maniac
Originally Posted By dvw
Wow, we're getting fancy. You'll have to park that thing up front.
Doug



No no no ----- not my style at all tsk

Lets just say it will NOT look that good by the time we get it to a track --- whistling



Hi Glenn ----- what day is this???? popcorn
Good I thought I'd have to park out back alone.
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#1993954 - 01/19/16 08:16 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dartman366]
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Originally Posted By dartman366
You forgot the fuzzy dice. shruggy


I knew I forgot something - found a nice red pair with white dots on Amazon!

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#1993959 - 01/19/16 08:27 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Originally Posted By dartman366
You forgot the fuzzy dice. shruggy


I knew I forgot something - found a nice red pair with white dots on Amazon!
Perfect! up
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#1993962 - 01/19/16 08:40 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Originally Posted By max_maniac
Originally Posted By dvw
Wow, we're getting fancy. You'll have to park that thing up front.
Doug



No no no ----- not my style at all tsk

Lets just say it will NOT look that good by the time we get it to a track --- whistling



Hi Glenn ----- what day is this???? popcorn


Well if somebody would stop using a hammer to pre-fit everything in place with - then again the outside has that "Russ flavor - patina" you know old and krusty!

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#1993971 - 01/19/16 08:48 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Originally Posted By max_maniac
Originally Posted By dvw
Wow, we're getting fancy. You'll have to park that thing up front.
Doug



No no no ----- not my style at all tsk

Lets just say it will NOT look that good by the time we get it to a track --- whistling



Hi Glenn ----- what day is this???? popcorn


Well if somebody would stop using a hammer to pre-fit everything in place with - then again the outside has that "Russ flavor - patina" you know old and krusty!



Kind of matches me ----- laugh

And the "fuzzy dice" are only in it when YOU are driving the car help
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#1994184 - 01/19/16 01:55 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Looks great guys!

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#1994515 - 01/19/16 09:11 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Everyday is Saturday Russ, I'm a retired old fart, so far its been very good, other than the stock market bouncing all around. Ive sold my house in WV, and moved to Western Ky. Everything moved, but still unpacking. I'll see you guys in Bowling Green, it'll be a short trip for me, but not a bad one for you guys, diesel is cheap, hoping race gas follows, that would probably be to much to expect though.
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#1995746 - 01/21/16 04:31 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: shorthorse]
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Originally Posted By shorthorse
Looks great guys!



Thanks but it's not me ------ all I do is watch Dave do everything and I'm his go fer. I go fer whatever he wants and needs and then sometimes I even drink beer while watching him work whistling He is doing a really fine job on it too bow


Kind of sounds like we could do a new reality car show for TV work you know he plays the smart one and I'm the idiot that gets yelled at all the time. But if they paid me I could care less grin
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#1995785 - 01/21/16 05:04 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Gofering and drinking huh, that's a good job as long as you keep them in that order. Save some beer money for Bowling Green, team car is looking good. You bringing both to Bowling Green?
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#2056079 - 04/17/16 11:03 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: wyoming]
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Been a while since I updated where we are at with Project Double Trouble - the car is just about ready to go racing - we are adding a complete caltrac suspension - everything else is buttoned up ready to fire up! Even have the fuzzy-dice in red!


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#2056083 - 04/17/16 11:07 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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And of course I already started the next engine program - picked up this new Mega-Block yesterday 4.5" bore - freshly machined by Arrow Racing Engines via Mopar Performance - This will end up a 572 - Eddy Victor Jr. heads Molnar Crank & Rods - Diamond custom pistons - have not decided on a cam yet.


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#2056111 - 04/17/16 11:41 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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This is the end game for Double Trouble - A tribute car to an old racer friend Ray Beraducci - who got me started and helped me learn - this was his old car which I bought and turned into the DoubleD - its long gone - Ray passed away a few years back - we talked about doing a clone of the original Hefty - I just wish Ray was still around to see it.


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#2056362 - 04/17/16 06:33 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Can't wait to see this one on the alignment rack and put that sweet smell of racing fuel in the shop devil
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#2056427 - 04/17/16 08:37 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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It will be a fun journey to the remaking of the HEFTYHEMI.

This year will be sorting out the Wedge and the car to make sure all is good and ready for the Hemi transplant and more then likely over next winter will be the complete transformation to the Hefty.
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#2057276 - 04/18/16 09:54 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Russ, sounds like the "Team" will be in Bowling Green?
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#2057278 - 04/18/16 09:56 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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#2057325 - 04/18/16 10:37 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: wyoming]
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Originally Posted By wyoming
Russ, sounds like the "Team" will be in Bowling Green?



Glenn, it will only be me and the 63.
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#2304852 - 05/15/17 11:42 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Well here is an update on project double trouble – We got the car out last fall after a series of set-backs for a couple of passes and quickly realized we had the wrong converter and gear – we had used a 9” ATI we had on the parts shelf – it had nowhere near the stall we need and with a 4:10 gear it only compounded the problem the car was a mid-11 second ride with that combo – so over the winter we put in our spare an 8” ATI and a new 4;56 gear – took the car out to Quaker over the weekend and it definitely liked that combo with a 10.77 @125 with 1.45 sixty foot wheels up! - pretty much where I thought it would run with the factory cross-ram and 34 degrees timing. Not bad for a 3800+ lb whale with a full factory interior on cal tracks and 9” slicks. A little tuning will probably net a tenth or so – maybe add an INDY bathtub cross-ram somewhere down the line and that would put it solid and cover the 10.50 index. But this engine will be short lived in the car - the 572 HEMI is being built at BEST Machine and will replace the 512 sometime later this year – as it becomes a replica of the Hefty HEMI. But for now Russ will race the car at Bowling Green this weekend as the strictly business 63 is not ready yet.


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#2371463 - 09/15/17 08:31 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Time for an update - the car has been real consistent so far this year even with two different drivers. The 512 wedge has a factory cross ram and - likes to stay in the 10.65 - to 10.75 range with a MPH at 128 - the converter is not quite right for the car - but it works for now. Not bad for a 3800 lb car with a full interior - there is more ET in this combo - but its time to take it out and move on with Plan B - The HEMI ! The engine is almost complete - Best machine got the nod - and I am thrilled so far! It will be on the dyno soon.


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#2371480 - 09/15/17 08:58 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Can't wait to see it run.
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#2371516 - 09/15/17 09:58 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: dvw]
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Originally Posted By dvw
Can't wait to see it run.
Doug
I can't wait either but - Dave said he is building a mild Hemi to stay in the 10 sec range shruggy


Yea right - whistling I have this feeling it's going to be cage time help
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#2401344 - 11/10/17 09:26 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Well the HEMI is Home and in the engine bay - Lots of work yet to go - new torque converter, headers to get coated - add a few bars to the roll bar to make it a cage - probably going to change the rear suspension to a ladder bar - and hopefully get the rest of the car painted before spring!

The HEMI made 870 HP at 6900 rpm and 740 ft-lbs at 5600 rpm with two box stock 800cfm eddies - I am more than happy with those numbers! Best Machine built a durable killer engine!

This car started as a budget build - that concept got lost somewhere along the way! But we are having some fun!


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#2401371 - 11/10/17 10:17 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Nice build. Close to mine. My 528' Hemi made 853@7100 & 691@5400 but mine is a 10.5:1 Pump gas street engine. My car will be mostly strip but will still street cruise it.
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#2401492 - 11/10/17 02:53 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: 6PKRTSE]
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WOW Dave,you ain`t fouling around !!!!!!

What would Cook say-----"now what"?

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#2401620 - 11/10/17 07:29 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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#2401709 - 11/10/17 10:14 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: ProSport]
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BUT ---- we never even got a chance to get the 512 Wedge tuned in yet???? Oh well it will make a good back up engine if nothing else. Wonder how long it will take Dave to change direction again - shruggy


It's all FUN and can't wait until next spring!!! drive
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#2402943 - 11/13/17 08:55 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Originally Posted By max_maniac
BUT ---- we never even got a chance to get the 512 Wedge tuned in yet???? Oh well it will make a good back up engine if nothing else. Wonder how long it will take Dave to change direction again - shruggy


It's all FUN and can't wait until next spring!!! drive



You know an injector stack would look cool - but with electronic fuel injection - is that legal in FX??

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#2402999 - 11/13/17 10:46 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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Originally Posted By max_maniac
BUT ---- we never even got a chance to get the 512 Wedge tuned in yet???? Oh well it will make a good back up engine if nothing else. Wonder how long it will take Dave to change direction again - shruggy


It's all FUN and can't wait until next spring!!! drive



You know an injector stack would look cool - but with electronic fuel injection - is that legal in FX??


FUEL INJECTION Era-correct mechanical fuel injection permitted in FX classes only.
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#2403006 - 11/13/17 10:55 AM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: max_maniac]
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Originally Posted By max_maniac
Originally Posted By DoubleD
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BUT ---- we never even got a chance to get the 512 Wedge tuned in yet???? Oh well it will make a good back up engine if nothing else. Wonder how long it will take Dave to change direction again - shruggy


It's all FUN and can't wait until next spring!!! drive



You know an injector stack would look cool - but with electronic fuel injection - is that legal in FX??


FUEL INJECTION Era-correct mechanical fuel injection permitted in FX classes only.


I can hide the injectors - like I can hide the grid!

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#2403129 - 11/13/17 02:36 PM Re: Project Double Trouble - Max Maniac Two [Re: DoubleD]
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2018 is shaping up to be an interesting and fun year. The project is awesome and the build post has been very entertaining. Looking forward to rejoining friends for a safe and fun season.

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