Re: Numbers matching question? 1968 Dodge Dart GTS
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A friend is seriously looking at a '68 Dart GTS 383 4spd car. Two things that concerned him was that the six numbers on the lower right corner of the fender tag don't match the last 6 numbers of the vin tag. Should these always match? And second, the numbers stamped on the 4spd matched up until the last number, it should be a 6 but it's a 9. The ownwer told him that he thinks "the production employee accidently held the stamp upside down". I've never been a numbers correct kind of guy so any help would be appreciated.
as said the numbers on the tag are the number stamped on the body which doesn't match the VIN on a 68. The Broadcast sheet is the only way to tie them together , though there may be something of some original dealership docs ?
As far as that last digit being off, totally possible, but the number stamps were held all together in one tool , they were not held separately. I assume the original block is not present? If the trans is wrong, then the engine would/should be also as they were stamped at the same time, with the same tool, by the same person.
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Re: Numbers matching question? 1968 Dodge Dart GTS
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A friend is seriously looking at a '68 Dart GTS 383 4spd car. Two things that concerned him was that the six numbers on the lower right corner of the fender tag don't match the last 6 numbers of the vin tag. Should these always match? And second, the numbers stamped on the 4spd matched up until the last number, it should be a 6 but it's a 9. The ownwer told him that he thinks "the production employee accidently held the stamp upside down". I've never been a numbers correct kind of guy so any help would be appreciated.
as said the numbers on the tag are the number stamped on the body which doesn't match the VIN on a 68. The Broadcast sheet is the only way to tie them together , though there may be something of some original dealership docs ?
As far as that last digit being off, totally possible, but the number stamps were held all together in one tool , they were not held separately. I assume the original block is not present? If the trans is wrong, then the engine would/should be also as they were stamped at the same time, with the same tool, by the same person.
Thanks for the response John! The present owner claims all numbers match so I'll pass the word on to my buddy about number stamp tooling.
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Re: Numbers matching question? 1968 Dodge Dart GTS
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there are body production line numbers stamped on mopars----on some the front 6 digit number is on the radiator support in plain view and the matching rear number is hidden under the rubber gasket of the back window--near the package tray---these numbers match the data plate and the broadcast sheet----in some years the front number is moved to the area of cowl near windshield wiper motor----these numbers have nothing to do with the vin number....
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Re: Numbers matching question? 1968 Dodge Dart GTS
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there are body production line numbers stamped on mopars----on some the front 6 digit number is on the radiator support in plain view and the matching rear number is hidden under the rubber gasket of the back window--near the package tray---these numbers match the data plate and the broadcast sheet----in some years the front number is moved to the area of cowl near windshield wiper motor----these numbers have nothing to do with the vin number....
Package tray was on earlier cars ... like a 64 Savoy ... 68 A/B body it was on the trunk rail under the weatherstrip, in 69 they changed it from the SO number to the partial VIN.
On cars that had it on the cowl it would have been the partial of the VIN as that started in 70 with the E body.
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Re: Numbers matching question? 1968 Dodge Dart GTS
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1968 383 Dart: Engine & trans should match last 8 digits of VIN on dash Core support & trunk lip should match the last 6 bottom row of fender tag (S.O.#)
S.O.# (Shipping Order number) on fender tag & VIN don't match in '68
The SPD (Scheduled Production Date) on fender tag has to be appropriate for the VIN
Post or PM those 2 & I can verify that they are at least "appropriate" for that plant & date
A single digit error is possible.
Where are the rear S.O. Numbers on a Fastback 68 barracuda? Still the trunk? If so, what side?
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Re: Numbers matching question? 1968 Dodge Dart GTS
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Lot of owners will make that claim. If the stampings on the engine , tranny, radiator support don't match the vin forget number matching. My two cents
As already mentioned, the radiator support stamping will not match the vin on a '68 model year car, that started with the '69 models.
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Re: Numbers matching question? 1968 Dodge Dart GTS
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I know on a '67 Charger the rear stamp was down by the holes for the bumper bracket. I have '67 Dart I can't find a rear stamping in the trunk jamb or rear bumper area. Any idea where it is on '67 A body?
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Re: Numbers matching question? 1968 Dodge Dart GTS
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i understand the block and auto tranny would be stamped together, would that also apply to a 4sp bell housing? never saw numbers on one?
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