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69 Satellite to Charger question #1709408 12/11/14 02:07 PM 12/11/14 02:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 767 Riverside, Iowa C carmak OP super stock
carmak OP super stock C Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 767 Riverside, Iowa	I have a friend that has access to a 69 Satellite 2drHT that was in a garage fire. The back of the roof, trunk lid and tops of the qtrs. are cooked and warped. The top of the back seat melted but the windshield, side glass, front and side weatherstrip survived as did the paint on the top of the trunk floor. This was an otherwise very solid car (great floors, inner fenders etc...). The same friend has also been collecting parts to build a 69 Charger as that is what he and his wife really want. With all of the metal available for Chargers would it be possible to rebuild the Satellite body as a Charger body? Thanks. Carmak Riverside, Iowa

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: carmak] #1709409 12/11/14 02:22 PM 12/11/14 02:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	I think the wheel base on a Plymouth is 1-2" shorter than a Charger. I could be wrong. I guess if he has mad skills it could be done. He'd be better off selling the Charger parts and what's left of the Satellite and buying a complete Charger project. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1709410 12/11/14 02:31 PM 12/11/14 02:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A.	Quote: I think the wheel base on a Plymouth is 1-2" shorter than a Charger. I could be wrong. I guess if he has mad skills it could be done. He'd be better off selling the Charger parts and what's left of the Satellite and buying a complete Charger project. The wheelbase on the charger is a little longer than the Satellite , but a lot of it is in the spring hanger attached to the front of the leaf springs. The person could buy rear frame rails and all the sheet metal, including the roof and trunk floor, and make the satellite a charger , it would be a lot of work , it would be easier to find a charger wit ha wrecked nose and put the 2 halves together ... Or just buy a charger ...

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: JohnRR] #1709411 12/11/14 02:45 PM 12/11/14 02:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 767 Riverside, Iowa C carmak OP super stock
carmak OP super stock C Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 767 Riverside, Iowa	Finding a solid Charger to build has been a challenge here smack dab in the middle of the rust belt. I wonder if the Charger convertibles out there have shortened qtrs. or stretched floors/frame rails? Carmak

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: carmak] #1709412 12/11/14 02:49 PM 12/11/14 02:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Finding a solid Charger to build has been a challenge here smack dab in the middle of the rust belt. I wonder if the Charger convertibles out there have shortened qtrs. or stretched floors/frame rails? Carmak We have a member here that made one , Chargervert , I imagine he put the charger trunk floor in ?

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: JohnRR] #1709413 12/11/14 06:32 PM 12/11/14 06:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt chargervert I Live Here
chargervert I Live Here Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt	All I had to do was change the front spring hangers to Charger pieces. I used a Charger trunk floor pan. Frame rails are the same. To convert the Satellite to a Charger hardtop,would require changing the rear window inner structure to Charger pieces. The trunk floor wiil need to be changed or modified for the filler tube. The outer wheel houses will also need to be changed to Charger pieces,as well as the trunk extensions. The tail panel,rear valance,and corners would also have to be fitted to the AMD Charger quarter panels. An AMD roof skin and dutch panel would also be needed. It is doable. 70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: chargervert] #1709414 12/11/14 07:46 PM 12/11/14 07:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A.	Quote: All I had to do was change the front spring hangers to Charger pieces. I used a Charger trunk floor pan. Frame rails are the same. How is the angle of the rear spring shackles with the spring moved rearward ?

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: JohnRR] #1709415 12/11/14 07:56 PM 12/11/14 07:56 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt chargervert I Live Here
chargervert I Live Here Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt	The shakles on the Dodge is raked back and the shakles on the Plymouths are more vertical. I believe the rails are the same. The difference is just under an inch. I have never seen replacement rear rails listed as different parts from Dodge to Plymouth. 70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: chargervert] #1709416 12/11/14 10:44 PM 12/11/14 10:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Since this project would need good metal working and welding skills, at what point would one be better off building a tube frame and hanging body panels on there?

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1709417 12/11/14 11:29 PM 12/11/14 11:29 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida M mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks!
mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks! M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida	Back half it, tub it and hang the sheet metal. On the frame rail conversion: So the rear frame rails from a Cornet, Satelite and Charger are all the same on 68-69 cars? Careful, your character's showing!

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: mopar346] #1709418 12/11/14 11:47 PM 12/11/14 11:47 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt chargervert I Live Here
chargervert I Live Here Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt	I believe the frame rails are the same. The front leaf spring brackets are 1 inch longer on the Dodge than they are on the Plymouth. 70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: chargervert] #1709419 12/12/14 12:00 AM 12/12/14 12:00 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida M mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks!
mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks! M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida	Interesting. Careful, your character's showing!

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: chargervert] #1709420 12/12/14 12:01 AM 12/12/14 12:01 AM
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moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: I believe the frame rails are the same. The front leaf spring brackets are 1 inch longer on the Dodge than they are on the Plymouth. Yes the frames are the same and the front spring hanger is a inch longer on the Dodges. Also the box where the rear shackles hang has the hole an inch back on the Dodges. Thus the inch longer wheel base. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: moparmarks] #1709421 12/12/14 12:05 AM 12/12/14 12:05 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida M mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks!
mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks! M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida	So they are the exact same on a Coronet and a Charger? Careful, your character's showing!

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: chargervert] #1709422 12/12/14 12:08 AM 12/12/14 12:08 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks I Live Here
moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: All I had to do was change the front spring hangers to Charger pieces. I used a Charger trunk floor pan. Frame rails are the same. To convert the Satellite to a Charger hardtop,would require changing the rear window inner structure to Charger pieces. The trunk floor wiil need to be changed or modified for the filler tube. The outer wheel houses will also need to be changed to Charger pieces,as well as the trunk extensions. The tail panel,rear valance,and corners would also have to be fitted to the AMD Charger quarter panels. An AMD roof skin and dutch panel would also be needed. It is doable. Pretty much covers the back half. Then need doors, hood, fenders, front valance, grill with mounts, head light assy., bumpers with mounts, Rallye dash, interior panels, etc. etc. A lot to piece together if you don't have a good parts car and still would have a Satellite vin number... 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: mopar346] #1709423 12/12/14 12:09 AM 12/12/14 12:09 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks I Live Here
moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: So they are the exact same on a Coronet and a Charger? Yes. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: moparmarks] #1709424 12/12/14 12:14 AM 12/12/14 12:14 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida M mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks!
mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks! M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida	Hmmm............. Thank you. Careful, your character's showing!

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: mopar346] #1709425 12/12/14 11:59 AM 12/12/14 11:59 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A.	Quote: So they are the exact same on a Coronet and a Charger? Coronet , charger yes , satellite NO . thanks Mark , I figured threre was a difference back there. I have both a plymouth and dodge front hanger bracket , never made a measurement to see how big the difference was.

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: JohnRR] #1709426 12/12/14 08:35 PM 12/12/14 08:35 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,415 Connecticut Ron_M top fuel
Ron_M top fuel Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,415 Connecticut	I could be wrong, but I thought the jambs are wider on the Charger(?) Common sense is a flower that does not grow in everybody's garden

Re: 69 Satellite to Charger question [Re: Ron_M] #1709427 12/12/14 09:18 PM 12/12/14 09:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks I Live Here
moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: I could be wrong, but I thought the jambs are wider on the Charger(?) Latch jam? Could be. Books show different part number for Charger than H/T B. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

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