Re: Sure Grip, locker, or spool?
[Re: Lmopar69]
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11/25/14 10:40 PM
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I personally can't stand spools or lockers on the street. If it is strip only then a spool may make sense depending on how hard it is to get traction.
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Re: Sure Grip, locker, or spool?
[Re: Lmopar69]
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11/26/14 01:41 AM
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Spool on the street? VERY bad idea, ANY amount of moisture on the street and it's like being on glare ice. Rounding corners drags a tire and can break an axle, and not always when you are turning a corner, it can stress and break when least expected. Nodular/Yukon (Tru-Track) 8.75 with a Sure Grip. Plenty for most any street strip car unless it's a big power/heavy car on slicks. Brand new drop in will run about $1250.00 Detroit Locker? Strongest of the 8.75's but they are noisy. I run one in my 71 Demon and am going back to a Nodular 8.75 Sure Grip, I just don't like the racket when cruising and probably don't need the extra strength on any tire that's streetable. These run a hundred bucks or so more than the Nodular/Yukon Tru-Track unit. For a bit more $ you can buy a custom built Dana 60 from Cass and be done with it. In your case that would be my move. 
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Re: Sure Grip, locker, or spool?
[Re: 383man]
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11/26/14 02:00 AM
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No, I don't get the ratcheting noise on the street (but we do in our race car on the road course rounding corners) we plan to change it for a non locker, it's not a good road course rear. What I get is a weird harmonic reverberation noise, sort of a "rumm rumm rumm" sound (maybe it's drunk LOL!), all else has been checked, drive shaft and u-joints are new and right, etc. it's definitely the rear and all looks healthy inside (it's a nearly new unit).
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Re: Sure Grip, locker, or spool?
[Re: QTR MILR]
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11/26/14 08:32 AM
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With that much tire I wouldn't be scared of a spool either. It's not like the truck will be a great rain/snow/road course vehicle anyway. Good axles are a must.
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Re: Sure Grip, locker, or spool?
[Re: 383man]
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11/26/14 10:19 AM
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I have been running a Detroit Locker in my 63 for years on the street. I take it to the track and race once or twice a year right now as thats all my budget will let me. Myself I love the locker as it works great for me. Sure it makes a little noise sometimes but nothing that even notice most of the time. To me its a great street/strip choice. Many guys do run a spool on the street but I drive my 63 alot and take alot of the long beltway ramps and dont want to be fighting a spool like that. If it was race only then of course I would run a spool. Ron
 On the street the locker doesn't bother me at all in a vehicle that's built to be loud and maybe a little clumsy in tight turns. The only time I really notice it is when parking or maneuvering in tight places, but prefer the ratchet sound to tires hopping and dragging with a spool.
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Re: Sure Grip, locker, or spool?
[Re: slantzilla]
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11/26/14 12:08 PM
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Axles are Dutchman custom made for the narrowed 8-3/4 rear. Should be no problem there. A locker has been my primary thought. But since I've never been in a vehicle that has one, I don't know how they act on the street.
Odds are this one won't be driven in the rain, snow, ice... Ever. Unless I get caught in it sometime on the way home.
I have a 4:10 geared sure grip center section in my challenger currently (not on the road right now). But if memory serves,the sure grip unit was getting a bit soft and will need rebuilt.
My concern is that if this thing launches HARD, which it should, and the tires bite hard, which they should, that my old SG unit could slip and cause a nasty unwanted turn.
Thoughts?
Laine.
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Re: Sure Grip, locker, or spool?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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11/26/14 12:15 PM
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Spool on the street?
VERY bad idea, ANY amount of moisture on the street and it's like being on glare ice. Rounding corners drags a tire and can break an axle, and not always when you are turning a corner, it can stress and break when least expected.
Nodular/Yukon (Tru-Track) 8.75 with a Sure Grip. Plenty for most any street strip car unless it's a big power/heavy car on slicks. Brand new drop in will run about $1250.00
Detroit Locker? Strongest of the 8.75's but they are noisy. I run one in my 71 Demon and am going back to a Nodular 8.75 Sure Grip, I just don't like the racket when cruising and probably don't need the extra strength on any tire that's streetable. These run a hundred bucks or so more than the Nodular/Yukon Tru-Track unit.
For a bit more $ you can buy a custom built Dana 60 from Cass and be done with it. In your case that would be my move.
While a spool does take a little extra care, it is nowhere like driving on glare ice.
I would almost vote a locker more dangerous, because a locker turns into a spool when you apply power. So you go into a corner with an open diff and when you accelerate it locks up like a spool...that can get nasty in the wrong hands. Its also really fun to do it on purpose lol.
My jeep is locked front and rear, in the wet all it takes is a blip of the throttle to throw it sideways in a turn because it engages the locker. Its the only way to have sideways fun with a 250HP I6 and 35" tires, sure as heck won't do that on dry pavement lol.
My Barracuda has a spool and its a 100% low eleven second street car. Rain does require caution but I don't feel the spool is anymore dangerous than the locker in my jeep.
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Re: Sure Grip, locker, or spool?
[Re: Lmopar69]
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11/26/14 12:15 PM
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My concern is that if this thing launches HARD, which it should, and the tires bite hard, which they should, that my old SG unit could slip and cause a nasty unwanted turn.
Thoughts?
Laine.
Save any guessing and get a Dana 60
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Re: Sure Grip, locker, or spool?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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11/26/14 12:34 PM
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