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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: JERICOGTX]
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11/24/14 10:45 PM
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I know of lots of low 5s cars running 8.8s. Stock ring gear bolts suck.
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: Thumperdart]
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11/25/14 02:37 AM
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Why not a Dana 60 dom?
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They look too "obvious" in an a body to me..............just my personal thing. To me a braced bad ass 8 3/4 or 9" just looks plain mean and clean and less like a truck.
...Yup, you certainly don't wanna give away any of that fresh out of granny's garage, sleeper vibe you have going on by installing a dana. Sheesh, that would be a complete and total give-away right there. I mean, a dana would definitely be more obvious than the big scoop on the hood, the purple paint, the huge roller cam and the loud exhaust, ect, right?
Just having fun with you Dom! Everyone has their own tastes and definitions I suppose.  
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: WHITEDART]
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11/25/14 02:19 PM
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I know of lots of low 5s cars running 8.8s. Stock ring gear bolts suck.
I don't think it's a matter of who goes fast on an 8.8. it's a matter of if he's going to upgrade is that the best choice. I don't think it is, he would be better off doing it right the first time. 
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
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11/25/14 03:08 PM
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Most "fast" cars that have 8.8, 12 bolts, 8.75, etc, rears have them, because at one time the car was not near that fast and the rear under it was "good enough" at that time. As time wears on, a complete replacement is usually a pretty good cost, so the OK rear gets patched and band aided to try and make it passable. Nobody in their right mind is going to start a NEW build and say "I think I will put an 8.8 rear in my new low 5 sec radial car"..........c'mon.
The Buick we currently race in Drag Radial, had a 10 bolt under it when we bought it. The car had run 5.50s with small blocks when we bought it and our big block made it a 5.20 car right off the bat. We ran the 10 bolt until we broke it (which wasn't long). The point was, the car "evolved" from a streeter to a low 5 sec car and the 10 bolt was "good enough" to a point.......then it wasn't.........so in Dom's case, moving from an 8.75 TO an 8.8 under his car........well he may as well light that money on fire, because it will accomplish the same thing.
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: Thumperdart]
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11/25/14 06:19 PM
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Dana60 with a cool diff cover.
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: onig]
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11/25/14 08:55 PM
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The Buick we currently race in Drag Radial, had a 10 bolt under it when we bought it. The car had run 5.50s with small blocks when we bought it and our big block made it a 5.20 car right off the bat. We ran the 10 bolt until we broke it (which wasn't long). The point was, the car "evolved" from a streeter to a low 5 sec car and the 10 bolt was "good enough" to a point.......then it wasn't.........so in Dom's case, moving from an 8.75 TO an 8.8 under his car........well he may as well light that money on fire, because it will accomplish the same thing.
Monte
Just curious Monte, what rear is in that Buick?
Chromoly 9" sheetmetal Ford housing, with 40 spline gun drilled axles, alum Mark Williams center, with a 3.70 Pro gear and a billet 1350 yoke with a solid joint............expensive? yeah I guess, but high power, hard hooking radial cars will break EVERYTHING. Radial cars are harder on drive line parts by FAR than slick tire cars. That said, we have NEVER broken a single part in the rear...........Several radial guys I know this year were twisting and breaking 40 spline axles. That's how hard these cars can be on parts.
Monte
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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11/25/14 10:41 PM
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The Buick we currently race in Drag Radial, had a 10 bolt under it when we bought it. The car had run 5.50s with small blocks when we bought it and our big block made it a 5.20 car right off the bat. We ran the 10 bolt until we broke it (which wasn't long). The point was, the car "evolved" from a streeter to a low 5 sec car and the 10 bolt was "good enough" to a point.......then it wasn't.........so in Dom's case, moving from an 8.75 TO an 8.8 under his car........well he may as well light that money on fire, because it will accomplish the same thing.
Monte
Just curious Monte, what rear is in that Buick?
Chromoly 9" sheetmetal Ford housing, with 40 spline gun drilled axles, alum Mark Williams center, with a 3.70 Pro gear and a billet 1350 yoke with a solid joint............expensive? yeah I guess, but high power, hard hooking radial cars will break EVERYTHING. Radial cars are harder on drive line parts by FAR than slick tire cars. That said, we have NEVER broken a single part in the rear...........Several radial guys I know this year were twisting and breaking 40 spline axles. That's how hard these cars can be on parts.
Monte
If thats the case, then move up to a Dana 70, 10.5" ring gear, 35 spline axles, 3.5 tubes with .5 wall thickness, looks like a 60 but on steroids inside! 1401 ujoints and a bunch of ratio's up to 7.17 to 1 Tim
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: astjp2]
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11/25/14 11:00 PM
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The Buick we currently race in Drag Radial, had a 10 bolt under it when we bought it. The car had run 5.50s with small blocks when we bought it and our big block made it a 5.20 car right off the bat. We ran the 10 bolt until we broke it (which wasn't long). The point was, the car "evolved" from a streeter to a low 5 sec car and the 10 bolt was "good enough" to a point.......then it wasn't.........so in Dom's case, moving from an 8.75 TO an 8.8 under his car........well he may as well light that money on fire, because it will accomplish the same thing.
Monte
Just curious Monte, what rear is in that Buick?
Chromoly 9" sheetmetal Ford housing, with 40 spline gun drilled axles, alum Mark Williams center, with a 3.70 Pro gear and a billet 1350 yoke with a solid joint............expensive? yeah I guess, but high power, hard hooking radial cars will break EVERYTHING. Radial cars are harder on drive line parts by FAR than slick tire cars. That said, we have NEVER broken a single part in the rear...........Several radial guys I know this year were twisting and breaking 40 spline axles. That's how hard these cars can be on parts.
Monte
If thats the case, then move up to a Dana 70, 10.5" ring gear, 35 spline axles, 3.5 tubes with .5 wall thickness, looks like a 60 but on steroids inside! 1401 ujoints and a bunch of ratio's up to 7.17 to 1 Tim
You're kidding right.........why would I put that heavy pos in the car when it has a real "race car" rear in it now.
I said OTHER guys had twisted another brand of 40 spline axles, but we are having no issues. And if other guys are twisting 40s, you think a DANA with 35s is gonna be better.......okie dokie, but I will pass.
Monte
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: astjp2]
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11/26/14 11:54 AM
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The Buick we currently race in Drag Radial, had a 10 bolt under it when we bought it. The car had run 5.50s with small blocks when we bought it and our big block made it a 5.20 car right off the bat. We ran the 10 bolt until we broke it (which wasn't long). The point was, the car "evolved" from a streeter to a low 5 sec car and the 10 bolt was "good enough" to a point.......then it wasn't.........so in Dom's case, moving from an 8.75 TO an 8.8 under his car........well he may as well light that money on fire, because it will accomplish the same thing.
Monte
Just curious Monte, what rear is in that Buick?
Chromoly 9" sheetmetal Ford housing, with 40 spline gun drilled axles, alum Mark Williams center, with a 3.70 Pro gear and a billet 1350 yoke with a solid joint............expensive? yeah I guess, but high power, hard hooking radial cars will break EVERYTHING. Radial cars are harder on drive line parts by FAR than slick tire cars. That said, we have NEVER broken a single part in the rear...........Several radial guys I know this year were twisting and breaking 40 spline axles. That's how hard these cars can be on parts.
Monte
If thats the case, then move up to a Dana 70, 10.5" ring gear, 35 spline axles, 3.5 tubes with .5 wall thickness, looks like a 60 but on steroids inside! 1401 ujoints and a bunch of ratio's up to 7.17 to 1 Tim
Oh I love getting on here. Twisting 40 spline axles and should go back to 35 spline and add 150 lbs in the process. That is exactly what they should do. I think you should call all the big chassis shops and get them all on board with the dana 70 movement also. You better buy up all the parts they are going to be flying off the shelf. 
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: sdaurity]
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11/26/14 01:24 PM
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 ,looking to buy a new rear-end in the next week or 2, my factory 8 3/4 may not be up to the 535 stroker 6 pak,cope built 727 tranny, and the slicks, this is in my 70 runner,with the stroker expected to make 650 hp and 6?? torque, want to add a rear that will not fail me, as this is all new and i will being put together next month, thoughts were to buy a DANA (to stick with mopar)car will not be tubbed but inner wheel wells massaged for bigger meats. So in short a good read post
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: meepmeep70]
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11/26/14 04:47 PM
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,looking to buy a new rear-end in the next week or 2, my factory 8 3/4 may not be up to the 535 stroker 6 pak,cope built 727 tranny, and the slicks, this is in my 70 runner,with the stroker expected to make 650 hp and 6?? torque, want to add a rear that will not fail me, as this is all new and i will being put together next month, thoughts were to buy a DANA (to stick with mopar)car will not be tubbed but inner wheel wells massaged for bigger meats. So in short a good read post
just a tip, Dana is not mopar. they came in just about all trucks. mopar used them because they knew the 83/4 wouldn't handle the big hemi's and 440s 
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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................
[Re: sdaurity]
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11/26/14 04:48 PM
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The Buick we currently race in Drag Radial, had a 10 bolt under it when we bought it. The car had run 5.50s with small blocks when we bought it and our big block made it a 5.20 car right off the bat. We ran the 10 bolt until we broke it (which wasn't long). The point was, the car "evolved" from a streeter to a low 5 sec car and the 10 bolt was "good enough" to a point.......then it wasn't.........so in Dom's case, moving from an 8.75 TO an 8.8 under his car........well he may as well light that money on fire, because it will accomplish the same thing.
Monte
Just curious Monte, what rear is in that Buick?
Chromoly 9" sheetmetal Ford housing, with 40 spline gun drilled axles, alum Mark Williams center, with a 3.70 Pro gear and a billet 1350 yoke with a solid joint............expensive? yeah I guess, but high power, hard hooking radial cars will break EVERYTHING. Radial cars are harder on drive line parts by FAR than slick tire cars. That said, we have NEVER broken a single part in the rear...........Several radial guys I know this year were twisting and breaking 40 spline axles. That's how hard these cars can be on parts.
Monte
If thats the case, then move up to a Dana 70, 10.5" ring gear, 35 spline axles, 3.5 tubes with .5 wall thickness, looks like a 60 but on steroids inside! 1401 ujoints and a bunch of ratio's up to 7.17 to 1 Tim
Oh I love getting on here. Twisting 40 spline axles and should go back to 35 spline and add 150 lbs in the process. That is exactly what they should do. I think you should call all the big chassis shops and get them all on board with the dana 70 movement also. You better buy up all the parts they are going to be flying off the shelf.
heck I am heading to the junk yard today to see if I can find a dump truck rear to put in mine
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