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Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: markz528] #1701381
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If you welding skills are within reason of your machining skills, you will be fine. Good Job!

Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: Jerry Kathe] #1701382
12/07/14 12:21 PM
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I went to WalMart and bought a gun bluing kit and applied that to the pucks so they would not rust as easy.

Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: SB412DUSTER] #1701383
12/07/14 12:36 PM
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and if you need to straighten the housing after welding, measure with 3' sticks of straight, stiff material clamped to the ends at 90* intervals. if out, keep the inner pucks & bar clamped into the diff while the housing is chained to a hefty piece of I beam. a touch of heat[plus wet rag quench] & a small bottle jack [12tonish or so] will put the housing into the correct place so the end pucks will zoom into the bearing bores easily on the center bar. this process description sounds lots more difficult than it really is.

Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: moparx] #1701384
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Nice work on the mandrels.

Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: RobX4406] #1701385
12/07/14 07:43 PM
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Rather than trying to fix it after it's welded or welding the ends on off center, I've been doing it a little differently. I fixture the housing and pull the ends of the tubes forward (away from the brace), fit the brace to the housing at that point and hold the bow while welding it. It's going to pull. May as well have it pull back to where it needs to be.

I don't actually bend the housing and pull it so far that it springs back to where I want it, I just pull it to where I want it and hold it there. The 9" and 8.75" housings have some flex in them before they are braced up. Easier to do it before than after the brace is welded up.
Keep the jig bar in the housing and use it to measure how far off from axle centerline you are moving it.
The amount you pull it depends on the width of the housing and the brace. The longer the weld, the more it needs to be compensated for. Maybe 1/4 or so on a stock length housing, less as it gets narrow.
Spend the time to get a tight fit on the brace. Relying on filler to take care of gaps will make the pull worse.


If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: CMcAllister] #1701386
01/19/15 09:53 PM
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Well you all scared me about how much it is gonna move so I ended making a jig. Its as good as I can make it, so if it moves I will use the jig to straighten it.

Back brace is pretty much ready to get welded.


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Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: markz528] #1701387
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Having trouble with picture. Lets try this.......

8401890-bracejig.JPG (529 downloads)

67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: markz528] #1701388
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Just weld short spots at a time and jump around..
do some on the left... jump to the right side and
let it cool. if I can put my hand on it with my light
gloves I'll burn there.. just jump around

Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: markz528] #1701389
01/19/15 10:33 PM
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Quote:

Well you all scared me about how much it is gonna move so I ended making a jig. Its as good as I can make it, so if it moves I will use the jig to straighten it.

Back brace is pretty much ready to get welded.


Your back brace is too short. It WILL bend out on the ends with the brace that short. You obviously have fab skills. I suggest you run the brace as close to the ends as possible and then "tube" the brace for the U bolts

Monte

Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1701390
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Well you all scared me about how much it is gonna move so I ended making a jig. Its as good as I can make it, so if it moves I will use the jig to straighten it.

Back brace is pretty much ready to get welded.


Your back brace is too short. It WILL bend out on the ends with the brace that short. You obviously have fab skills. I suggest you run the brace as close to the ends as possible and then "tube" the brace for the U bolts

Monte




Monte - I was thinking of adding some end pieces that overlap the short brace by about 12 inches and bring it as you said, as close to the ends as possible. Do you think that would be effective?


67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
Re: Tips on making a rear end narrowing jig? [Re: markz528] #1701391
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Well you all scared me about how much it is gonna move so I ended making a jig. Its as good as I can make it, so if it moves I will use the jig to straighten it.

Back brace is pretty much ready to get welded.


Your back brace is too short. It WILL bend out on the ends with the brace that short. You obviously have fab skills. I suggest you run the brace as close to the ends as possible and then "tube" the brace for the U bolts

Monte




Monte - I was thinking of adding some end pieces that overlap the short brace by about 12 inches and bring it as you said, as close to the ends as possible. Do you think that would be effective?


Outside the perches is where it will bend...........needs something to support it

Monte

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