Re: Lots of shock questions lately
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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So how much does a set of 4 Santhuffs cost? Rear coilovers, and fronts for stock suspension. Their web site isn't much help.
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Re: Lots of shock questions lately
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You guys looking for shocks and prices just need to call Mark Roth if you are interested in Santhuffs and Mark Menscer or AFCO direct if that is your choice.
The reason is........a shock is NOT a shock. Even in GOOD D/A shocks, the intended purpose of the car comes into play. We call most GOOD race shocks "double adjustable" but shocks really have 4 adjustments that can be made to them. There is a high and low speed rebound and a high and low speed extension. Since drag cars don't see varying track conditions like a round track car, having all 4 externally adjustable is not needed...........BUT, the power level and type suspension used, will dictate where in the valving the low speed takes over from the high.
High speed valving is defined as hitting the shock hard and fast, such as at launch. Low speed is usually down track to absorb bumps. Since shocks are very sensitive to velocity, the type suspension and power level greatly comes into play on choosing a valving. Power and a violent suspension setup, like a ladder bar, will require the high speed to be very sensitive, very quick, to control the housing. Lesser power and lesser aggressive suspension, like leafs, will change the transition point in the valving.
All this is why a "serious" guy should not just pick up the phone and order some shocks from Jegs
Monte
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Re: Lots of shock questions lately
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The rears retail for $1210 a pair and the fronts are $1000 retail. I can save you quite a bit of money over those prices though. Mike
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Re: Lots of shock questions lately
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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You guys looking for shocks and prices just need to call Mark Roth if you are interested in Santhuffs and Mark Menscer or AFCO direct if that is your choice.
The reason is........a shock is NOT a shock. Even in GOOD D/A shocks, the intended purpose of the car comes into play. We call most GOOD race shocks "double adjustable" but shocks really have 4 adjustments that can be made to them. There is a high and low speed rebound and a high and low speed extension. Since drag cars don't see varying track conditions like a round track car, having all 4 externally adjustable is not needed...........BUT, the power level and type suspension used, will dictate where in the valving the low speed takes over from the high.
High speed valving is defined as hitting the shock hard and fast, such as at launch. Low speed is usually down track to absorb bumps. Since shocks are very sensitive to velocity, the type suspension and power level greatly comes into play on choosing a valving. Power and a violent suspension setup, like a ladder bar, will require the high speed to be very sensitive, very quick, to control the housing. Lesser power and lesser aggressive suspension, like leafs, will change the transition point in the valving.
All this is why a "serious" guy should not just pick up the phone and order some shocks from Jegs
Monte
Best explanation I have seen on this board! People dont realize how involved every aspect of a purpose build drag car really is, or should be! Hats off to you Monte
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Re: Lots of shock questions lately
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If anybody is interested or ever has questions about Penske Racing Shocks let me know. I split my time currently between the drag race and NASCAR shocks at Penske. Our shocks are custom made for every car. Everything is hand built to customer specs. Everything is dynoed before it is shipped and every shock matches. We have a huge data base. Also currently all Pro Stock cars run Penske Shocks. I bracket race and I think we all know how much varying 60' times can be the difference in a first round loss or a final round appearance. I think the information in this post is good. I will never bash another shock companies product. If anybody has questions just PM me.
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Re: Lots of shock questions lately
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I tried the jack trick on mine when I was winterizing it. My Koni's failed miserably. I think they are single adjustable. Is the single adjustment for compression or extension?
Jim
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Re: Lots of shock questions lately
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Can this be controlled to a certain extent by adjusting launch rpm, for e.g loading the converter as opposed to flashing it. Mick
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Re: Lots of shock questions lately
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Monte,
If you have 90\10s or 3 ways on the front and single adj on the back, you can only afford to buy 2 shocks, which one do you replace
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