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Sway bars on truck ??? #1699374
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So if one is solid and one is hollow but the diameter is the same is the solid one going to resist sway more? I know the outside of the bar does most of the work but does the solid center help at all?


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Re: Sway bars on truck ??? [Re: HotRodDave] #1699375
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Solid would be stiffer!


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Re: Sway bars on truck ??? [Re: astjp2] #1699376
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Solid would be stiffer!




I'm not home right now to pull out a strength of materials book and display some torsion equation, but there are equations specifically for solid and hollow bars.

Re: Sway bars on truck ??? [Re: MuuMuu101] #1699377
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Yep I agree, solid is stiffer.
http://www.1speedway.com/swaybar375.htm

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Get a truck with torsion bars and factory Bilstein shocks and a solid sway bar ...

Re: Sway bars on truck ??? [Re: PHJ426] #1699380
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Get a truck with torsion bars and factory Bilstein shocks and a solid sway bar ...








My little truck is a 1992 D250 Club Cab long bed diesel. It has the heavy suspension package for towing and still tried to fall over on freeway off ramps despite the large front sway bar. I stuffed a 7/8" sway bar under the back of it and there was a night and day difference.
I waited FAR too long to do that.


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Re: Sway bars on truck ??? [Re: feets] #1699381
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I have a 2000 dakota 4x4 that I tow way too much with, it has a hollow front bar, I have a 3 parts durangos, 2 have the same size bars but solid and the 01 R/T has an even bigger bar that is solid. I was wondering if I should install the same size diameter solid bar or should I just put in the R/T bars?

I have taken off the bars temporarily for hunting season for when I am out in the woods so just trying to decide witch one to put back on in 2 weeks. Dakota is a V6 5 speed all the Durangos are V8s.


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Re: Sway bars on truck ??? [Re: HotRodDave] #1699382
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I'd slam the R/T bars on it and call it done.


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Re: Sway bars on truck ??? [Re: HotRodDave] #1699383
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I have a 2000 dakota 4x4 that I tow way too much with, it has a hollow front bar, I have a 3 parts durangos, 2 have the same size bars but solid and the 01 R/T has an even bigger bar that is solid. I was wondering if I should install the same size diameter solid bar or should I just put in the R/T bars?




We don't know the wall size of the tubular bar, but in this case its moot. A solid bar of the same size will have more resistance than the tubular bar of the same OD. The even bigger R/T bar that is solid has the most resistance of the lot. I 2nd feets recommendation.

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I have taken off the bars temporarily for hunting season for when I am out in the woods so just trying to decide witch one to put back on in 2 weeks. Dakota is a V6 5 speed all the Durangos are V8s.




Do you have to take it completely off? I'd try just pulling out the link on one side.

Re: Sway bars on truck ??? [Re: TC@HP2] #1699384
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Would the R/T bar be over kill?

I remove the whole thing, it is real easy, (the rear bar is like a pencil so I just leave it and I hear the durango bar won't fit but they are much bigger) I guess since they are so easy I could just try all the bars to see what I like


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Re: Sway bars on truck ??? [Re: HotRodDave] #1699385
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If it was 2" bar stock it would be overkill.

I imagine you'll be satisfied with the improvement.


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Re: Sway bars on truck ??? [Re: feets] #1699386
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The r/t sways aren't all that aggressive. Put them on, I think you'll be happy. Hotchkis makes fromt/rear sways that are even stiffer than the stock r/t sways

The 'equation' for a hollow bar is to pretend you're dealing with 2 seperate solid sways. If you have a 7/8" tube with 1/8" thickness, then the diameter of the open space is 5/8"

You would calculate the strength of a solid 7/8" bar, then subtract the strength of a 5/8" solid bar

Sounds like a lot, but as mentioned, there's a torque involved with sways, so the farther out from the center, the more work the tube does. You can use a larger hollow bar to increase the spring rate of the sway bar, without adding additional weight


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