Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
[Re: RAMM]
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Yes the Hemi is tumble ports, something a lot harder (but possible usually at the expense of flow) to achieve with a wedge.
I also seem to keep seeing guys building the new hemi are claiming no difference firing both or only one plug, what have you found?
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Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
[Re: HotRodDave]
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11/06/14 06:28 PM
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Yes the Hemi is tumble ports, something a lot harder (but possible usually at the expense of flow) to achieve with a wedge.
I also seem to keep seeing guys building the new hemi are claiming no difference firing both or only one plug, what have you found?
They might not see a difference in power but I would bet if they had an emissions sniffer on it they would likely see a difference there.
Kevin
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Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
[Re: 1964superstock]
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11/06/14 06:49 PM
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More good close up photos here: http://www.hotrod.com/features/1411-tric...2014-sema-show/
Looks like winner to me, but nearly even with Modern CNC Edelbrock RPM head flow. I sure like that nice 21st century 78 cc combustion chamber. If they are priced right and truly ready to bolt on, they will be very tough to beat.
That finish on the CC is by far, 100-1 better than the finish I got on my Indy 440-1 heads. Those will never be right after they got smoothed out enough to bolt on.
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Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
[Re: RAMM]
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11/06/14 08:36 PM
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Yes the Hemi is tumble ports, something a lot harder (but possible usually at the expense of flow) to achieve with a wedge.
I also seem to keep seeing guys building the new hemi are claiming no difference firing both or only one plug, what have you found?
When you think about it--How can there be the same timing lead required when you have 2 plugs on opposite sides of the chamber? J.Rob
What's a tumble port?
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Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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A tumble port adds another dimension to the flow of the intake charge. We've all heard of swirl ports, which impart a curving swirl to the charge to help it mix when it enters the chamber.
Think of a tumble port as making the charge do a somersault when it comes in the room.
Tumble ports are not really new, Ford had them on some of the 4.6 and 5.4 32-valve engines of the late 90s-early 00s.
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Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
[Re: Brian Hafliger]
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11/07/14 12:09 AM
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Unlike every single mopar head out there, these heads are a TRUE bolt on! And they actually flow as advertised...and they have upgraded hardware.
This is the first of 3 heads they will offer...
Take note what they flow, the quality castings, machine work and parts, then compare them with Eddy or whoever's heads. You'll quickly see they are priced damn good!
For you to say that, I would assume you have a set, and have personally flowed them ??? Please share the details and some photos...Thanks !
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Just like the Edelbrock RPM heads are NOT RACE heads, neither are these...I see a lot of mixup about a race head vs. a performance head. Yes you can race anything, but this first head is not a RACE head...it's intended for performance, quality, and value. Can't please everybody that's for sure!!
Any clues as to the potential of their top end version?
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Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
[Re: HotRodDave]
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11/07/14 12:19 AM
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Hey Brian,
Can you tell us if either one of the next two versions will need piston changes?
Thanks Damon
What's the BIG deal about changing pistons?????????? Heck its done everyday. Some guys want to go fast.
Some guys can spend a ton on a motor upgrade and others can't, pistons cost money, labor is certainly worth money even if you do it yourself, re-balancing costs money then if you want a different head someday you got to do the whole thing again... that is the big deal with piston swaps. Also you are gonna have a hard time getting anyone to stock a piston like that so you spend more on a piston and have more wait time. Gonna cost $6000+ at a shop.
Along the lines of what HotRodDave said I have a great block that I can't afford to change. If one of the next head versions would be substantially better than my fully ported MCH Eddies then I would be a buyer in a year or two.
Damon
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Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
[Re: RAMM]
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11/07/14 02:15 PM
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Two quick comments: 1. I'd like a set of these heads, even though they'd be a step backwards performance-wise from what I have now, simply because they look cool! 2. After looking through what else Trick Flow offers in heads for all makes, I question if the "Big Guns" here hoping for a new generation high-end BB Mopar head are going to see that from Trick Flow. One of their trademarked slogans is "Ultimate Bolt-on Performance!", and even their top-of-the-line BB Chevy & BB Ford heads don't appear (IMO at least) like anything more exotic than the equivalent of a nicely prepped B-1. But I'm all eyes & ears when it comes to new BB Mopar heads!
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Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
[Re: BradH]
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DISCLAIMER: The opinions above have been posted by a street-car test-n-tuner with a "toy" flowbench and a rusty 10-second '73 Challenger that hasn't run since 2009 LOL
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Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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11/07/14 07:27 PM
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DISCLAIMER: The opinions above have been posted by a street-car test-n-tuner with a "toy" flowbench and a rusty 10-second '73 Challenger that hasn't run since 2009
LOL
Hey, I believe in truth in advertising...
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Re: Trick Flow introduces BBM heads
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