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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: autoxcuda] #1693428
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Thanks for the help guys!
This thing is actually a Unisteer Low-Flow pump 8060300
Hopefully it will work with my Hydroboost


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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: RylisPro] #1693429
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Just laying out my cache of power steering stuff


Top left: 6" diameter Aluminum V-groove pulley for press on 0.662 shafts.

Top pump: is a cast iron bare pump without reservoir. Exterior looks almost identical to the aluminum one w/reservoir attached. I believe the reservoir would interchange between the two.

Left pump: is aluminum with attached reservoir.

Center: pump is KRC p/n 20-0157 and KRC adapter p/n 30000 for a Chevy Circle Track car.

Lower Right: Remote aluminum reservoir has internal baffles and has a roll bar mount bracket attached to it.

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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: autoxcuda] #1693430
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Are these other pumps? What's the one on the bottom?

Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: RylisPro] #1693431
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Seems the KRC pump p/n 20-0157 and KRC adapter p/n 30000 I have has a different smaller bolt pattern than the aluminum one with the attached plastic reservoir.

Question is what bolt pattern are the Mopar KRC mounting plates made for???

This KRC pump has had the thread holes in the body drilled out removing the threads to fit bigger bolts

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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: autoxcuda] #1693432
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Aluminum Pump with reservoir has larger bolt spacing.

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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: autoxcuda] #1693433
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Cast iron bare pump without reservoir has same bolt spacing as aluminum pump w/reservoir

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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: autoxcuda] #1693434
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Backside of all the pumps.

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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: autoxcuda] #1693435
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I would bet the KRC matches the KRC bracket. Man Steve I didn't know you were a closet PS pump hoarder.


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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: 72Swinger] #1693436
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Quote:

I would bet the KRC matches the KRC bracket....




Yes, the KRC bracket came with that pump.

I've got about $40 tied up in what you see collected for over 10 years.

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...Man Steve I didn't know you were a closet PS pump hoarder.




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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: autoxcuda] #1693437
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I just started the electric PS conversion for my AAR. I have the motor attached to the column and have to measure and weld the shafts. Fits nicely under dash and will use the manual box. Will be under $200 including the controller and will make the Gen3 Hemi conversion easier. WIll do a write up when done.

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/mod-custom-forum/787114-best-200-mod-ever-eps.html


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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: HUSTLESTUFF] #1693438
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Steve I bet they have both sizes from KRC whether its an aluminum pump or iron. If you look at the Mopar KRC bracket it has 2 holes for the bottom bolt.


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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: autoxcuda] #1693439
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I'm using a Profile iron body pump from Speedway. This is a carbon copy of the aluminum KRC unit. I used stock brackets to mount mine up. The rear mount I did have to shim with a few washers and I had to modify a chevy alternator bracket for the adjustment arm, but otherwise, nothing trick to get it mounted.




Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: autoxcuda] #1693440
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So for the Unisteer low flow pump that I have in my pic above, I am pretty sure that I have this control valve installed which enables the GM type II pump to be used with a Ford rack and pinion.


According to this article
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/chassis-suspension/ccrp-1304-gm-power-steering-secrets/
there is just a size difference in the hole of the fittings stock .150 on left and low flow .093 on right


There is also a small hole one the side of the fitting which is a bypass hole "B"

http://www.archivedsites.com/techconnect/2009/09/power-steering-pump-service.html

Since I run hydroboost, my plan is just to drill out the fitting. In theory it should all work and even if I screw everything up, I can always get another fitting for cheap.

With the availability of a bracket soon, it will make more sense to use these Type II pumps on our Mopars


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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: RylisPro] #1693441
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Just an fyi, I have 4 brackets made to adapt these to a Gen III either by itself are as a complete kit with bolts and the right pulley for LX front covers. I also have a BB bracket and aluminum V belt pulley setup as well. PM with any questions. Not making a killing at all just want to get Mopar guys some good stuff to run on these hot rods. Alex,Brian and Ariel are all gonna use one so far so I figured I would get the word out that more are available.


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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: 72Swinger] #1693442
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Quote:

Just an fyi, I have 4 brackets made to adapt these to a Gen III either by itself are as a complete kit with bolts and the right pulley for LX front covers. I also have a BB bracket and aluminum V belt pulley setup as well. PM with any questions. Not making a killing at all just want to get Mopar guys some good stuff to run on these hot rods. Alex,Brian and Ariel are all gonna use one so far so I figured I would get the word out that more are available.




PM some details, I'm interested in a Gen III and the Big Block setup. I wouldn't mind having spares for the Dart in case I ditch my manual box and the Satellite could stand to drop a couple pounds too.

Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: autoxcuda] #1693443
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I made the KBC Bracket work on my 360. Had to customize a spacer but it was not the hardest bracket I had to make on this car.




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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: finadk] #1693444
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I made the KBC Bracket work on my 360. Had to customize a spacer but it was not the hardest bracket I had to make on this car.
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Very nice.

Thank you for the detailed pictures.

Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: 72Swinger] #1693445
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I got 72Swinger's power steering bracket and its a nice piece. I opted to get mine in raw aluminum so that I could drill more holes into it. I think I will drill a hole for the center mounting point so that it can be supported from the back side

One of the holes is 5/16 coarse thread and since my pump uses 8mm x 1.25 bolts I will have to drill out the mounting holes to fit a bolt long enough since all of the 3 inch grade 8 bolts at the local hardware was not threaded all the way. I am guessing the OEM bolt is not threaded all the way either. No big deal.

I'm glad I got the bracket. It's simple enough to make but, spending the time to get the material, cut, drill and design my own bracket would have cost way more than what I paid

Thanks Emil!


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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: RylisPro] #1693446
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You can go ahead and add an extra bolt if you want but I don't think it is necessary at all. All of the force on that pump is pulling it toward the bolt you are wanting to add. On top of that every circle track pump I have seen only uses the 2 I do as well. The pumps sit flat against the bracket and have no way of wiggling. Feel free to do whatever you want with it, but from what I have seen you will not gain anything.


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Re: Any Sm/Blk brackets for this Alum. P/S Pump setup yet? [Re: 72Swinger] #1693447
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You can go ahead and add an extra bolt if you want but I don't think it is necessary at all. All of the force on that pump is pulling it toward the bolt you are wanting to add. On top of that every circle track pump I have seen only uses the 2 I do as well. The pumps sit flat against the bracket and have no way of wiggling. Feel free to do whatever you want with it, but from what I have seen you will not gain anything.




someone should make an aluminum bracket for this pump on a big block and sell it here to us on moparts! whats the lbs difference between this and a saginaw with an aluminum pully?

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