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MagnumTR6060 6 speed shifters?? #1692192
10/29/14 09:23 PM
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From what I can tell, With the six speed installed in my Cuda, the shifter location is about 3 to 4 inches forward of the stock location. Is there a shifter option that will move the shifter back closer to the stock location.

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Re: MagnumTR6060 6 speed shifters?? [Re: Chally426] #1692193
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I've read the Challenger TR6060 puts the shifter too far back, but I haven't seen the comparison.

What TR6060 are you looking at? Camaro, Viper, Mustang, Challenger...

I'm going with the T56 Magnum, which is the hot rodder's version of a TR6060.


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Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #1692194
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Yes, Sorry, I have the T56 Magnum, as well

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Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: Chally426] #1692195
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The Challenger, like several other cars, has the shifter remote mounted off the transmission. You just need to fab up a shaft to go to the transmission. The picture below Challenger transmission.

Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: it's Bob] #1692196
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Ok, computer acting funky. Here are other pics/info

Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: it's Bob] #1692197
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I don't have that trans, I have this one

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Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: Chally426] #1692198
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Have no idea what it would cost..... but you could get one of the Challenger/GM tail housings that has the bosses for the shifter stand off attachments and build out from there. The Challenger shifter adapter mounted on the trans itself is not that expensive. I found one, a new one at that, for $99 on the ebag. The GM part is a Cadillac CTS-V application. It stands off even further from the trans than the Mopar part. I think this is a GM 6060 trans.

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Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: Chally426] #1692199
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Quote:

I don't have that trans, I have this one





Got 'cha, so you do have the T56 Magnum and not, technically, a TR6060. I think you threw a few people off with that.


I am surprised to see even at the rearmost mounting location that the shifter is too far forward. Do you have any pictures of where it's ending up in the car? Is your car an original 4spd?

From what my research has shown is you're stuck with it where it's at. The only alternative would be to try to get a Challenger, or similar, tailshaft on it, but I'd expect a bunch of hurdles in doing that. Such as losing the speedo output, going to a much different transmission mount and maybe losing the slip-yoke style driveshaft.



That is the setup I was planning on buying for my 5.7L Hemi swap. Is that the Ford or GM version? Close or wide ratio? I am very interested in any mockup pictures you may have of it in the car!

Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: it's Bob] #1692200
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Quote:

I think this is a GM 6060 trans.





Likely, that's definitely not a Mopar driveshaft flange.

Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #1692201
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Here's one where we cut the floor, don't need to remove as much as some people have, I measured from a friends 4 speed car and the stock location is 4" back further

8316541-floorcut3.jpg (112 downloads)
Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: Chally426] #1692202
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only needed to cut the passenger side

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Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: Chally426] #1692203
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another

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Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: Chally426] #1692204
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American powertrain says they have a shifter that will move back 3", but when you look at the pics, it looks like it can move 3" total from full forward to full rear, which means it really would only go 1 1/2" each way of center

Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: Chally426] #1692205
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Quote:

American powertrain says they have a shifter that will move back 3", but when you look at the pics, it looks like it can move 3" total from full forward to full rear, which means it really would only go 1 1/2" each way of center




American Powertrain is who I have been working with and they mentioned the shifter as well. Honestly, I wouldn't sweat a small difference, 2-3" in shifter location won't make it or break it. You will quickly get used to it and not notice after very long.


Thank you for the pics, how have you reworked the torsion bar crossmember? Or are you going to coil overs?


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Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: Chally426] #1692206
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Im putting in a 2010 dash and console heavenly modified and need to get the shifter as far back as I can from the dash.

I went with the RMS set up

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Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: Chally426] #1692207
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Quote:


I went with the RMS set up





Very nice! Your pictures have me worried about the shifter location relative to where the torsion bar crossmember is.

I know it needs to be completely fabricated there, but It seems like the upper portion of the crossmember would want to share the same real estate as the shifter.

Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #1692208
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I read somewhere(I think) that if you use your crossmember and try to rebuild it up around the trans, you have to move the shifter to the most forward position, in the far back position it is right on the crossmember ..

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Yup

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Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: johnscudashop] #1692210
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Quote:

I read somewhere(I think) that if you use your crossmember and try to rebuild it up around the trans, you have to move the shifter to the most forward position, in the far back position it is right on the crossmember ..




Quote:

Yup





Most forward as in flipping the shifter mount you have now 180º [Orange] or using the Yellow spot for shifting?

Sorry for the thread-jack, I've been scrounging for e-body specific T56Mag info lately.

Re: T56 Magnum 6 speed shifters?? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #1692211
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Hum...That I am not sure...I will go back on some of the stuff I've kept and recorded...sounds like you have the same sickness I have, "scrounging for e-body specific T56Mag info". If you come across anything that moves the shifter back let me know...lol







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