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Re: Why do guys race small blocks?
[Re: fishy340]
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11/01/14 03:18 AM
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Monte_Smith
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How come no bb's run 50's in x275 if it's all about powa ? BB MOPAR gotta make a ton more hp then Ron Rhodes no ?
You're kidding right??? There have been SEVERAL BB cars run in the .50s in X275. And lets see....oh yeah, big block cars have one kit and have to weigh 3250. Ron Rhodes can have all the kits he wants and weighs 2600..........Any more questions.......LOL!!!
Plus.....I don't think its a real secret that big blocks are capable of making more power than smallblocks. Super Stock Hemis are approaching the 1050 level with a stock valve angle head. Where is the 426 inch smallblock that does that? 500" smallblocks are possible, show me one that makes the power of a 500" BB pro stocker.
One more time......AIRFLOW.....AIRFLOW......AIRFLOW......LOL!!!
Monte
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks?
[Re: ademon]
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11/01/14 12:51 PM
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MoparBilly
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OK, to recap up to this point.
OP-WHY race small blocks, what is the allure.
Answers:
BECAUSE-
-they are lighter
-they fit in smaller places, take up less room.
-we are RPM junkies
-we are cheap
-as if being a Mopar guy is not underdog enough, now we are the underdog of the underdogs.
-the challenge of doing more with less
-more junkyard parts availability
-we are masochists who enjoy the pain and struggle of wringing out all the performance we can find
-we don't know any better (AKA it's all we've ever raced)
-it's the only way to use up all these parts I've accumulated for twenty years
-Big Blocks Suck
-exotic Nascar engines that require a ton of work to re-engineer, and install (see masochists)
-we don't have enough chips on our shoulder
-we have W8s and you don't
-need room for the turbo
-r5p7
-we think trying to run fast at 3800lbs is even crazier than trying to run fast with less inches
Ok, did I miss any so far?
"Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks"
4 Street cars, 5 Race engines
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks?
[Re: J_BODY]
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11/01/14 02:02 PM
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Thank god Monte still posts once in a while
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks?
[Re: mopars4ever]
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11/01/14 03:18 PM
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I LOVE both big and small blocks. I've gone 9.91@131 with a very mild 408 and 5.48@159mph with my big block. Both were NA and both should be running way better in 2015. 
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks?
[Re: fishy340]
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11/01/14 03:31 PM
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Gary Robbins
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Monte take a breath and answer the question...how many bb MOPARS ?
I don't need to know about other makes that do it,it's my boys motors that are the fastest 
I see it coming...SILVERFISH on silverfish crime !!
W headed smallblock vs B1 headed bigblock !!
Fastback vs notchback !!
I'll give ya the back tire and the move !!
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks?
[Re: Gary Robbins]
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11/01/14 03:53 PM
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SpareParts
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Monte take a breath and answer the question...how many bb MOPARS ?
I don't need to know about other makes that do it,it's my boys motors that are the fastest
I see it coming...SILVERFISH on silverfish crime !!
W headed smallblock vs B1 headed bigblock !!
Fastback vs notchback !!
I'll give ya the back tire and the move !!
I like the silver car's odds
Giving that much and knowing the little I think Iremember about the notch, I'd probably go with that one. Love both cars tho
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks?
[Re: MoparBilly]
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11/01/14 04:15 PM
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Thank god Monte still posts once in a while
Darn it Ray,
If a guy had posted multiple times on this thread, and was the sensitive type, he might take that the wrong way!
By the way, was thinking of you yesterday when I shot this picture:
Well, i was going to include you and one other in that statement also. I like that plate. I need one
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks?
[Re: fishy340]
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11/02/14 03:34 AM
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Monte_Smith
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Monte take a breath and answer the question...how many bb MOPARS ?
I don't need to know about other makes that do it,it's my boys motors that are the fastest
Well I guess I don't understand the question..........you made the comment and then mentioned Ron Rhodes. He drives a SB Chevy, so I assumed you meant in general.
But if you are asking about BB Mopars in X275, I think they can run that number with the right serious effort combo. At present, I can only think of ONE guy who is even running that combo in X period and that would be Mr Robbins. And this is in no way shape or form a slight against him, plus I am sure he will agree, that his current combo is not a balls to the wall, all out, X275 combo. Spoke with him at Holly Springs and he admitted as much. His combo needs a little work, likely doesn't have the right cam and head, nor has he even approached the jet size the "hitters" in the class run. He is more focused on a "jet limited" 275 class in Texas, where he runs near the front of the pack.............So, knowing what the "go to" head in the X275 class will flow and what a properly done PSO head can flow, I would say a BBM can do it, just that nobody has yet. I would like to try it myself, I just don't have an X275 ready chassis, nor do I have the FIRST part for that type motor...........Now if somebody wants to volunteer up a car and motor, we will see what we can do.........LOL!!!
Monte
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks?
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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11/02/14 12:38 PM
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Gary Robbins
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Monte take a breath and answer the question...how many bb MOPARS ?
I don't need to know about other makes that do it,it's my boys motors that are the fastest
Well I guess I don't understand the question..........you made the comment and then mentioned Ron Rhodes. He drives a SB Chevy, so I assumed you meant in general.
But if you are asking about BB Mopars in X275, I think they can run that number with the right serious effort combo. At present, I can only think of ONE guy who is even running that combo in X period and that would be Mr Robbins. And this is in no way shape or form a slight against him, plus I am sure he will agree, that his current combo is not a balls to the wall, all out, X275 combo. Spoke with him at Holly Springs and he admitted as much. His combo needs a little work, likely doesn't have the right cam and head, nor has he even approached the jet size the "hitters" in the class run. He is more focused on a "jet limited" 275 class in Texas, where he runs near the front of the pack.............So, knowing what the "go to" head in the X275 class will flow and what a properly done PSO head can flow, I would say a BBM can do it, just that nobody has yet. I would like to try it myself, I just don't have an X275 ready chassis, nor do I have the FIRST part for that type motor...........Now if somebody wants to volunteer up a car and motor, we will see what we can do.........LOL!!!
Monte
Your 100% correct as we are very conservative on our program...4.80's are easy with low 70's or high 60's doable but still does not make us a serious player in X275...The TEX275 jet limit class is in our back yard and our main focus as we're a serious player in that class !!
It was refreshing in Holly Springs at how many complements we got on our car with most coming from mustang guys...was amazing out of 50 cars 90% were mustangs and class could be renamed FOX275,Lol.
Now that they lowered BOP/MOPAR weight to 3000# and give us -6 nitrous lines along with having a new set of PSO heads I may have to order up some carbon fiber body parts and see how serious Monte is about making a BBM NOS combo run up front !!!!!
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