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Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: MikeyT] #1690239 10/27/14 12:18 PM 10/27/14 12:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,141 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,141 Benton, IL.	Quote: Hutch, Believe it or not but my 60 foot time, my best was 2.2. Also, Cab I agree I am always worried about TF linkage, so I had my transmission guy help set it up correctly. My concern is HP in general A 9:1 440 with decent 915 heads, headers, 703 lunati cam, Holley dominator intake,and 750 carb , SHOULD be able to push a car into low 13's at Least.. 2.2 60'?!?!?! I'ld be working on the 60' BEFORE anything else. Master, again and still

Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1690240 10/27/14 12:29 PM 10/27/14 12:29 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: i've seen many, many aftermarket shifter cables mal or misadjusted, that flat eats up HP and transmissions, especially in our 727 and 904 I learned a long time ago to make sure the pin on the end of the cable end that rotates on the cable to adjust the length that fits into the shifter arm on the valve body drops in in nuetral, 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear. DROPS IN If it doesn't adjust the cable hieght and angle on the tranny bracket that hold the cable to the shifter arm until the cable end drops in by itself in all four positions Some the different shifters companys don't designate which way they want the pin to be install, from the top of the shifter arm or from the bottom, if your doesn't sometimes 1/2 a turn on the cable end will make the difference in dropping and not dropping Good luck , lets us know how it works out Man I went through the cable deal a while ago where it banged into gear violently on shifts so I crawled under to adjust it at the trans and all was fine. Well confused I decided to check the cable at the shifter and the adjusting nuts were loose...........star washers and all so I cranked em tight re-checked it again at the trans and all`s good. I know it`s ok cos I waxed two Chevys since then........... Last edited by Thumperdart; 10/27/14 12:34 PM. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: Thumperdart] #1690241 10/27/14 01:01 PM 10/27/14 01:01 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI MikeyT OP master
MikeyT OP master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI	Ok... Well let's look at it.. 3990 lb race weight 3600 stall converter 3.55 gears 275/60/15 nitto drag radials ran at 20 psi Launched at 2000, 2500 , and 3000 rpms and it felt like it hooked Mike 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger

Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: MikeyT] #1690242 10/27/14 02:02 PM 10/27/14 02:02 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,271 Vista, California 6 67Satty pro stock
67Satty pro stock 6 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,271 Vista, California	I probably have a pretty similar combo except maybe a little less weight but a low-compression 440 with a hydraulic cam and stock 452 heads. I can usually get a bunch of 1.68-1.70 60 foot times. If it does a 1.70 and above, I can feel it spinning. What kind of springs and shocks do you run? Is there a front sway bar hooked up? I'd try some bias ply D.O.T. slicks like the Hoosier Quicktime Pros to see if that helps the 60 foot times.

Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: 67Satty] #1690243 10/27/14 02:17 PM 10/27/14 02:17 PM
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Paul_Fancsali master P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,931	How tall are your tires? looks like you need a little more rear gear. My 73 with 7.5 comp E-58 ran 14.3 at 95.5 and it weighs the same with 3.91s The Turbo action man valve bodys all were fast shifting but very hard on drive train U joints etc. Went with full automatic valve body using Darrell Young mods and never looked back. Car with shift fast and firm 24 years after it was built with 30K or more on trans car is faster in drive and shifts can be set for 5300 or 5700 in drive

Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: Paul_Fancsali] #1690244 10/27/14 02:56 PM 10/27/14 02:56 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI MikeyT OP master
MikeyT OP master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI	Ok, here is a launch before transmission and vb change( notice nice little flair between 2-3 shift) https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202733150713926&l=732393316980219169 The car has 90/10 culverts upfront Sway was still connected 9 way adjustable Rancho's out back SS springs with 3.55 gears Tires were 275/60/15 at 22psi of pressure It just looks lazy off the line. This is the best it has done 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger

Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: MikeyT] #1690245 10/27/14 03:16 PM 10/27/14 03:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass. 8 80fbody mopar
80fbody mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	Looks like very little weight transfer to me. Things like trunk mounted battery, sway bar removal, clamp front of rear springs, etc would all help to try and get some more transfer. I'm sure there's a few guys with heavy b-bodies on here that can get you pointed in the right direction.

Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: 80fbody] #1690246 10/27/14 10:17 PM 10/27/14 10:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 240 Ft. Wayne, IN. Q QTR MILR enthusiast
QTR MILR enthusiast Q Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 240 Ft. Wayne, IN.	It does sound lazy out of the hole. What is the timing set at, initial and total? Also have you tried playing with the accelerator pump at all?? Scott 69 Satellite, 3650lb street car... Dunnuck Racing pump gas 440. Best of 10:60@127...

Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: MikeyT] #1690247 10/27/14 10:42 PM 10/27/14 10:42 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA	So lets be clear. The car went 13.81 @ 96 w/ a 1.9 60ft, and then went a 14.2 @ 95 with a 2.2 60 ft.. Right? It appears that most or all of the difference between your best run and last outing is in the 60 ft. Posting both time slips will help. The bottom line is that if you don't find more horsepower, the car will never go faster than 13.5. That would be with a perfect suspension. A 1.9 60 ft in a 260 hp 4000 lb car is not that bad.

Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: BSB67] #1690248 10/27/14 11:20 PM 10/27/14 11:20 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI MikeyT OP master
MikeyT OP master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI	Initial. 22 degrees and 38 total at 2500, And I agree at 4000 lb and 260 hp, that would be what I expect but this is a mildly built 440, it should have more then 260 hp in it? I am not talking something crazy but I think it should have more? My question is why... Possible jumped teeth on timing chain, something else? Mikey Ps maybe it is just time to throw my stroker 508 in it and be done with it 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger

Re: Manual valve bodies... Do they improve ET? [Re: MikeyT] #1690249 10/27/14 11:25 PM 10/27/14 11:25 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI MikeyT OP master
MikeyT OP master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI	Also, agsin... Thank you so much for all the knowledge and expertise...I always feel very fortunate to have such wide variety of help! Thanks agsin guys 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger

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