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Front shocks for a ladder car? #1689084 10/22/14 03:24 PM 10/22/14 03:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,915 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer OP Too Many Posts
tboomer OP Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,915 United Socialist States of Ame...	Thought I would bring this up again. I will be looking for a decent shock that is better than the 14+ year old CE 90/10s on the front of my 64 330 sedan. I think DVW suggested the QA-1s? My car is a ladder bar car. Thanks guys! Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: tboomer] #1689085 10/22/14 03:56 PM 10/22/14 03:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,363 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,363 Las Vegas	The answer is buy the BEST shock you can afford. IMO Strange is a good value as is Afco. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: tboomer] #1689086 10/22/14 04:42 PM 10/22/14 04:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan B B3422W5 I Live Here
B3422W5 I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan	Quote: Thought I would bring this up again. I will be looking for a decent shock that is better than the 14+ year old CE 90/10s on the front of my 64 330 sedan. I think DVW suggested the QA-1s? My car is a ladder bar car. Thanks guys! Is the car not hooking/ working? 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: B3422W5] #1689087 10/22/14 08:06 PM 10/22/14 08:06 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	I ran QA-1 singles for nearly 2 years. It now has Afco doubles. So far I've been able to pick-up .03 in 60 ft. It does seem to be more consistent. Though I ran a slew of mid 1.30 60 ft with the QA-1's. I've moved ladder bars,swapped shocks, adjusted shocks, swapped tires. All this has gained me less than .10 in 60 ft. Doug

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: dvw] #1689088 10/22/14 09:22 PM 10/22/14 09:22 PM
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70satelliteguy pro stock 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,301 Penna	I also run QA-1's. Ladderbars,3600 lbs. 1.31 60 fts. I guess a more expensive shock may work better Mike

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: tboomer] #1689089 10/22/14 09:34 PM 10/22/14 09:34 PM
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Hemi Allstate master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	QA1 single adjustable shocks on mine. Only 15 passes on the car total, so not a lot of shock testing. So far the biggest improvements have come from tire pressure adjustments. Mark Last edited by Hemi Allstate; 10/23/14 09:27 AM. 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1689090 10/22/14 11:23 PM 10/22/14 11:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA	Quote: The answer is buy the BEST shock you can afford. IMO Strange is a good value as is Afco. I messed up and bought a set of the QA1 single adjustables for my Duster and then ended up buying a set of Koni SPA speed sensing front shocks later, way better On the rear same thing, buy the best ones you can, once I started out with Strange single adjustables coilovers on the rear with the ladder bars, I ended up buying a set of the same length and appication Strange double adjustables the second time around Some of us learn the hard way, some never learn I'm still trying to learn, thats why I read and post on here Last edited by Cab_Burge; 10/23/14 04:01 AM. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1689091 10/23/14 12:34 AM 10/23/14 12:34 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama M Monte_Smith master
Monte_Smith master M Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama	Shocks are one of the FIRST places you SHOULD spend money, yet one of the last that most do, if at all. Spend all kinds of money on engine mods and "cool guy" suspension parts, yet run 60s tech 90/10s Monte

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1689092 10/23/14 09:22 AM 10/23/14 09:22 AM
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tboomer OP Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,915 United Socialist States of Ame...	Thanks everyone! High dollar shocks are out of the question. Like Santuff or stuff like that. I don't know till next May if I can drive or not. Hell...I don't know if I will even keep the car! Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: tboomer] #1689093 10/23/14 12:34 PM 10/23/14 12:34 PM
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B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Ted,we use QA1 and Comp Eng shocks on most of our ladder bar cars.We set the extension as loose as we can and compression as tight as we can.Most of our ladder bar B-bodys similar to your car work well and see low 1.30 to 1.26 60 fts.On a high nine to ten second bracket car it's what works and what makes each run consistant that is important.Quick lift and weight transfer of the weight and keeping the weight planted while under power is important.A loose rebound will cause suspension dynamics which can cause et loss and occasionally steering issues on the big end and when braking.This referrs to stock suspension backhalved cars and not full chassis cars. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: B G Racing] #1689094 10/23/14 01:27 PM 10/23/14 01:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,915 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer OP Too Many Posts
tboomer OP Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,915 United Socialist States of Ame...	Thanks Bob! I am in no big hurry but will be making a few calls. Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: tboomer] #1689095 10/23/14 02:59 PM 10/23/14 02:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	I bought a set of Vi=king Da shocks.Rears are in and still have to weld the new mounts up front to install. Have not been able to tune them yet. Hope to see a great improvement 8309507-7.27.14002.jpg (48 downloads) HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: hemi-itis] #1689096 10/23/14 03:05 PM 10/23/14 03:05 PM
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Adrielp mopar A Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 577 Arkansas	Has anyone bought their shocks direct from a custom builder so they are pre-valved for their application? I plan to get some double adjustable shocks next year and this was a route I was thinking about going with some middle of the road shocks. Adriel Paradise Substation Design Engineer III

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: hemi-itis] #1689097 10/23/14 06:35 PM 10/23/14 06:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,915 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer OP Too Many Posts
tboomer OP Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,915 United Socialist States of Ame...	Al...How is the quality on those shocks? Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: tboomer] #1689098 10/25/14 12:53 AM 10/25/14 12:53 AM
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steeldust mopar S Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 469 Tennessee	I called Mark Menscer and ordered Afco Double adjustable shocks and he made them for my car he is a good guy to talk to and he will help you and he sends a sheet on what to adjust them to and I got them today and I ordered them 10 days ago they look great .I can`t wait to try them out next week 8311052-GOPR0054.JPG (65 downloads) Last edited by steeldust; 10/25/14 01:30 AM.

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: tboomer] #1689099 10/25/14 02:12 AM 10/25/14 02:12 AM
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WH23H6 member W Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 134 Closest Race Track	QA 1 singles on the front... Koni Dbls on the back... 3300lbs.. 1.30 60ft consistently.... with the odd 1.28s.. While we are talking shocks... heres a question (for Bob maybe) I had issues at Norwalk getting the car to leave... never had a chance to get it out again until last weekend at testing.. Playing with the shocks (rear) last weekend I had a thought that perhaps the cold air was affecting the oil in the shock... so we loosened the extension more than ever before and found very favourable results. Has any body else noticed this in cooler temps? 8311111-2014HemiShootout.jpg (40 downloads)

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: steeldust] #1689100 10/25/14 02:18 AM 10/25/14 02:18 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR Jeremiah master
Jeremiah master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR	Quote: I called Mark Menscer and ordered Afco Double adjustable shocks and he made them for my car he is a good guy to talk to and he will help you and he sends a sheet on what to adjust them to and I got them today and I ordered them 10 days ago they look great .I can`t wait to try them out next week May I ask how much they cost per shock? I have a ladder bar car that is new to us and am all ears on this thread.

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: tboomer] #1689101 10/25/14 11:17 AM 10/25/14 11:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,994 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart master
gregsdart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,994 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	It all boils down to how much control you need for landing after a wheelie. I need a lot, and it started to show after the front was getting more than a foot in the air or so. A single adjustable good quality shock ought to do the job to a point, depending on a lot of things. A stock bodied drag car should be OK to 10.0 I would think. Maybe faster. Especially if the car in question runs a glide. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: Jeremiah] #1689102 10/25/14 08:39 PM 10/25/14 08:39 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 469 Tennessee S steeldust mopar
steeldust mopar S Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 469 Tennessee	Quote: Quote: I called Mark Menscer and ordered Afco Double adjustable shocks and he made them for my car he is a good guy to talk to and he will help you and he sends a sheet on what to adjust them to and I got them today and I ordered them 10 days ago they look great .I can`t wait to try them out next week May I ask how much they cost per shock? I have a ladder bar car that is new to us and am all ears on this thread. $909.00 for the front set shipped 8311647-1025141656a.jpg (42 downloads)

Re: Front shocks for a ladder car? [Re: steeldust] #1689103 10/27/14 06:27 PM 10/27/14 06:27 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 577 Arkansas A Adrielp mopar
Adrielp mopar A Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 577 Arkansas	Quote: Quote: Quote: I called Mark Menscer and ordered Afco Double adjustable shocks and he made them for my car he is a good guy to talk to and he will help you and he sends a sheet on what to adjust them to and I got them today and I ordered them 10 days ago they look great .I can`t wait to try them out next week May I ask how much they cost per shock? I have a ladder bar car that is new to us and am all ears on this thread. $909.00 for the front set shipped Thats not a terrible price given their custom built to your application. I'm looking forward to upgrading the 20yr old shock technology on our car. Adriel Paradise Substation Design Engineer III

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