Big Tire Cars
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I've been having an argument with a guy I work with. So please chime in..... Is there such a thing as "Too much tire"? If there is, what are the key things to look for? Thanks for playing
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Re: Big Tire Cars
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Ya,if its a 10 or 11 sec car,there's no need to run a 14 X 32 tire. In reality its probably slowing the car down.
Definitely, I know this SS/KA car shaved off considerable ET by simply going from a 14x32 radial slick to a 10.5x30 radial slick
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Re: Big Tire Cars
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How did you know it wanted a smaller tire?
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Re: Big Tire Cars
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Depends on what you are trying to do. I know some very successful bracket racers who run huge tires on realitively slow cars just for consistancy.
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Re: Big Tire Cars
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How did you know it wanted a smaller tire?
I'm guessing because the car is not mine but belongs to the father of a friend, but I'd say it seemed logical, a car that runs 10.40s combined with the minimal torque output of the 283 a 14x32 seems like overkill, his son also runs a 283 powered car in Super Stock and runs a 9x30 radial slick despite having a back halved car and class rules allowing a much bigger tire to be used. Leaves the line at 7k and still prefers the small tire.
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Re: Big Tire Cars
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Ya,if its a 10 or 11 sec car,there's no need to run a 14 X 32 tire. In reality its probably slowing the car down.
Definitely, I know this SS/KA car shaved off considerable ET by simply going from a 14x32 radial slick to a 10.5x30 radial slick
This could be because he went to a smaller diameter tire. But, I would agree if the tire is lighter it will help.
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Re: Big Tire Cars
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Very much agreed that it depends on the application. If it is a bracket car I would say NO. If it is in the case of looking for every last little .01 then yes you can easily have WAY more tire than needed. But I don't think you are building a heads up car so IMO use what works best most consistently.
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Re: Big Tire Cars
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Very much agreed that it depends on the application. If it is a bracket car I would say NO. If it is in the case of looking for every last little .01 then yes you can easily have WAY more tire than needed. But I don't think you are building a heads up car so IMO use what works best most consistently.
I guess I was wrong then. I was arguing that there is such a thing as "too much tire" for a car.
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Re: Big Tire Cars
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Hi Monte- This is what I was trying to argue. Was what you said here: "They want to shake. In those instances there is definitely a such thing as too much tire." But I thought that blanket rule for all cars. So that's where I went wrong on my argument
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Re: Big Tire Cars
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Hi Monte- This is what I was trying to argue. Was what you said here: "They want to shake. In those instances there is definitely a such thing as too much tire." But I thought that blanket rule for all cars. So that's where I went wrong on my argument
Nine times out of ten, if you are "shaking" the tire......you are underpowering the tire
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Re: Big Tire Cars
[Re: dakotawilly]
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10/17/14 01:11 AM
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easy formula,divide the tire width by your i.q. if the answer is less than 2 you should be racing the"short bus"and licking the windows as you pass the 60 ft mark......
well everybody will be on the short bus with that formula unless we use millimeters for width.
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Re: Big Tire Cars
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easy formula,divide the tire width by your i.q. if the answer is less than 2 you should be racing the"short bus"and licking the windows as you pass the 60 ft mark......
That doesn't make sense. Baseline: Average IQ is 100. Untubbed duster fits a 275 tire. So that gets you a 2.75- safely above window licker status. A super genius should be able to make a skinny tire hook by controlling the power delivery and instant center but his 150 IQ gets him a 1.83 score- his favorite color is 'clear'= window licker.
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