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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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10/15/14 10:46 PM
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I have the Willwood light wt. front breaks and there rear drag race breaks on the Valiant.
The rear breaks really helped my car!
A drag car does most of the stopping with the rear tires!
Skinny fronts can't grip like steam rollers! 
So your fronts are NOT the drag brakes, just their lightweight brakes? Do you happen to know the weight savings? Overall, you are happy with how everything worked and fit?
Yes mine are the drag breaks front and back. The thin rotor with no type of venting on anything.
If you run skinnys up front put some rear breaks on it first.
On my tube Chassi Avenger I have the same Willwoods on the back and the small light weight strange stuff up front. It stops very well too.
I am looking at the Wilwood pro street brakes, which are vented, for the 73 and up B-body spindle. Going to look into whether or not the push the front wheels out at all. Also looking in to the rear wilwood pro street kit, although I am having trouble finding the part # with a integrated parking brake.
If I spend around $1k on brakes, but they lighten the car up and stop it better, I will be happy with it
Still need to look in to the Aerospace stuff a little more, but I like how Wilwood is somewhat cheaper and doesn't have any issues with the pedal needing a pump to get a very positive pedal feel
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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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10/15/14 11:08 PM
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i went from the 73 a body disk's to the wilwood drag brake's and lost 50lbs on the front.
Im going to be using the thicker, vented rotor, so I would assume that the weight savings will be somewhat less, but atleast it should still be a substantial amount.
Are you running drums on the back still? Are you happy with the Wilwoods?
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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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10/15/14 11:11 PM
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I am using vented Wilwoods all around. My front suspension is based off 72 Pinto (Art Morrison). The vented rears have a cable parking brake caliper. I think they may be discontinued though. So far the car seems to stop well. I have not made a 1/4 mile pass yet though. Mark
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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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10/16/14 12:51 AM
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I am not sure I would worry so much about the vented rotors. Mine have been fine with lots of street miles. I have never had any noticeable brake fade or moments where I felt stopping power was compromised.
It tips the scales at about 4100lbs when rolling down the highway for drag week(passenger plus extra crap) never once a stopping problem.
Also, I am not in the rear brakes first camp, I think the weight transfer on the front over rides the larger rear tire(I'm not running giant rears and neither are you). I have shut this thing down hhhaaarrrddd before and never had problems locking the fronts up that I couldn't control. Also no noticeable difference from a 235 front tire to a 165 front tire.
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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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10/16/14 12:55 AM
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I have manual SSBC kit up front & Dana drums out back,car weighs over 3800 with no problem stopping from 140 MPH.
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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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I am not sure I would worry so much about the vented rotors. Mine have been fine with lots of street miles. I have never had any noticeable brake fade or moments where I felt stopping power was compromised.
It tips the scales at about 4100lbs when rolling down the highway for drag week(passenger plus extra crap) never once a stopping problem.
Also, I am not in the rear brakes first camp, I think the weight transfer on the front over rides the larger rear tire(I'm not running giant rears and neither are you). I have shut this thing down hhhaaarrrddd before and never had problems locking the fronts up that I couldn't control. Also no noticeable difference from a 235 front tire to a 165 front tire.
For me, having the vented rotors is just peace of mind- more then likely I would never (atleast I hope to never) be in a situation where the brakes would fade....however, should that situation arise, I would like to have the best brakes possible to stop me safely. Insurance rates where I live are higher then the rest of the cities around me because we are known for our very poor drivers, so anything can happen here I hate to say it. I am not so much worried about stopping the car from a hard blast, but more so with the repeated stopping of regular driving and stop and go traffic.
I am with you also- I have NEVER locked up my front skinnies before, even in HARD panic stops, so the fronts are my priority...But since I am not planning on many upgrades this winter to the driveline side of things, I would really like to focus some money on lightening up the car, and getting some better stopping power in the process, so if I can swing it, I will do the rears as well.
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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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10/16/14 08:18 AM
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My Strange fronts are vented. 
There is a HUGE difference between vented and slotted....To my knowledge, strange has only ever and is still only making non vented rotors. A vented rotor is one where the inside and outside face of the rotor have a space in between them, just like a stock passenger car rotor. Slotted rotors, like those that strange sells, are not vented.
The Strange stuff seems to work good for the price, although I have read of some who had trouble with them at the track (as mentioned in this thread here) getting hot...I just don't want to take the chance where I live driving with non vented rotors as I need to be able to have this thing stop WHENEVER I ask it to- whether that is gridlock traffic, regular traffic, or after a high speed blast.
Pardon me. My "slotted" Strange brakes have been great on the street and strip for four years. My Wilwoods on the rear now for almost 10. But my car is slow.
Good luck in your quest.
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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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10/16/14 06:52 PM
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My Strange fronts are vented.
There is a HUGE difference between vented and slotted....To my knowledge, strange has only ever and is still only making non vented rotors. A vented rotor is one where the inside and outside face of the rotor have a space in between them, just like a stock passenger car rotor. Slotted rotors, like those that strange sells, are not vented.
The Strange stuff seems to work good for the price, although I have read of some who had trouble with them at the track (as mentioned in this thread here) getting hot...I just don't want to take the chance where I live driving with non vented rotors as I need to be able to have this thing stop WHENEVER I ask it to- whether that is gridlock traffic, regular traffic, or after a high speed blast.
Pardon me. My "slotted" Strange brakes have been great on the street and strip for four years. My Wilwoods on the rear now for almost 10. But my car is slow.
Good luck in your quest.
Wasn't trying to be smart about it, was just saying...I used to think the Strange brakes were vented because of the slots, and almost pulled the trigger on them, until I found out that vented and slotted are VERY different lol
Are your rear wilwoods the race brakes, or the pro street style? How do you like them?
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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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10/16/14 06:53 PM
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no drum's wilwoods all the way around.
they work good.
I think the rear's are vented just can't remember right now .
Cool, good to hear they are working out well for you...Would be curious to know what the weight savings are on the rear as well
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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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10/17/14 12:02 PM
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For those of us with a manual trans, a parking brake is important. Wilwood rear brakes with a parking brake uses an all iron rotor with a drum built into it for a parking brake. They are so heavy, they make Rosie O'Donnell look like a supermodel. So has anyone tried using a Wilwood rotor with an aluminum hat, then adapting on a 1990ish corvette aluminum caliper that has an integral mechanical parking brake? It seems to me that this would be the lightest and still have a parking brake.
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Re: Lightweight street/strip front and rear disc brakes???
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10/17/14 01:11 PM
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The rear parking brake calipers that came in my Wilwood kit have Wilwood decals on them. When I pulled one off, it had Airheart cast into the caliper. This may be a source for these calipers? Mark
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They were hairline cracks that were hard to see but would have got worse if I did not see them in time. I now have front and rear Strange slotted discs and have been trouble free even up to 154 mph. 
