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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: 69CoronetRT]
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03/03/15 01:56 AM
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Why would you devalue a car because it is missing a a piece of metal that provides limited information at best?
Because an original fender tag provides, at least, minimal documentation and is one undisputable piece of evidence as to how the car was originally built and equipped. Remove it and everything that is listed on the tag comes into question. Color. Transmission. Options.
Not every car had or has a correct broadcast sheet or other documentation. EVERY car had a fender tag.
Is it the sole piece of documentation one should consider? No. Is it a very important piece? Yes.
just a thought... maybe some tags were stamped wrong ? yes ? no / every car had a window sticker yes ? would it not have the ultimate say ? it is the window sticker that has the " as built " , not "to be built" info on it correct ? with respect to tags, sheets ,stickers, were they all subject to mistakes ? I, am not picking on this comment, just curious ...thoughts ? 
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: fc7_plumcrazy]
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03/03/15 01:33 PM
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I have an A12 with broadcast sheet and original fender tag. I don't know how much a repop tag is but have thought about keeping my original tag with the broadcast sheet and having another made to put on the car. Opinions? 
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: mopar346]
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03/03/15 10:19 PM
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I guess I should be thankful that I have a car with all its original rust free metal, the original broadcast sheet and fender tag..Numbers match on every component...Inside and out...Don't have to deal with the scrutiny...
I also considered making a tag with something sarcastic or humorous on it to prevent theft of my original and even some consider that a bad idea...
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A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish..
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If they come back it means nobody else wanted them either..!!
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: fastmark]
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03/04/15 02:06 AM
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..... The only consolation that came from my deal was the crook lost his shirt when he sold the car.
then there is the issue of a car being created and it's (fake) history perpetuated.
Hopefully the info found it's way to a registry.
There has to be a way to disclose fakes. The chips fall where the will.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: sandbagger]
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03/04/15 02:14 AM
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I have an A12 with broadcast sheet and original fender tag.
I don't know how much a repop tag is but have thought about keeping my original tag with the broadcast sheet and having another made to put on the car.
Opinions?
Once in a while one will get stolen. If you are worried, take a picture, make a life size copy, glue to a piece of cardboard and put on. 
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: Mastershake340]
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03/04/15 02:55 AM
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If you take your fender tag off and put it someplace for safe keeping, there is probably a better chance that it will get lost at some point, or if something happens to you sometime and your family has to sell your car, they won't know about the original tag, then there is of the tag being stolen at a show.
Better to replace one of the screws for your original tag with a screw with a nut so that it would be difficult for someone to steal. Or use some JB Weld or epoxy or something for that purpose. Anyone who would steal a tag would only do it if they could remove it in a few seconds with a screwdriver. 
 Exactly...
I have yet to meet someone that actually had their fender tag stolen, but most everyone knows of a friend of a friend that had it happen. However, I know of several "well meaning" knuckle draggers, that took them off for safe keeping and lost the damn thing. That is a waaaayyyyy more likely scenario.
I have driven many A, B and E-bodys to Mopar shows and all make shows, left the hood open and wandered off, with not an issue. IMO, the ricer guys have more to worry about with theft of parts, than the classic car guys.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: fc7_plumcrazy]
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03/04/15 12:42 PM
03/04/15 12:42 PM
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I am far away being in germany.
But I have never meet someone claiming his tag has been stolen at a car show. I know guys, too that lost it while "safekeeping".
So I am curious if someone really had their tag stolen at a car show?
Carsten
I've always looked at the "My tag was stolen at a show" deal as an Urban Legend, while I've SEEN and heard first hand of individuals stealing air cleaners, items left inside a vehicle at a show, etc, etc....I ask what "value" does a fender tag have for a thief?, is there a "black market" for hot fender tags? 
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Re: Repop fender tag
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03/04/15 01:47 PM
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If you take your fender tag off and put it someplace for safe keeping, there is probably a better chance that it will get lost at some point, or if something happens to you sometime and your family has to sell your car, they won't know about the original tag, then there is of the tag being stolen at a show.
Better to replace one of the screws for your original tag with a screw with a nut so that it would be difficult for someone to steal. Or use some JB Weld or epoxy or something for that purpose. Anyone who would steal a tag would only do it if they could remove it in a few seconds with a screwdriver.
Exactly...
I have yet to meet someone that actually had their fender tag stolen, but most everyone knows of a friend of a friend that had it happen. However, I know of several "well meaning" knuckle draggers, that took them off for safe keeping and lost the damn thing. That is a waaaayyyyy more likely scenario.
I have driven many A, B and E-bodys to Mopar shows and all make shows, left the hood open and wandered off, with not an issue. IMO, the ricer guys have more to worry about with theft of parts, than the classic car guys.
X3 I've lost count of the "fender tag was misplaced during restoration" stories.....usually followed by "I'm sure it'll turn up and I'll send it to you".....which almost NEVER happens.
The JB weld or nut/bolt solution solves the problem AND keeps the tag with the car...which is where it belongs. I have photos of my tag on three separate computers and hosted sites as well as a pencil rubbing at work and at home....I'd say I've got the bases covered.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: DPelletier]
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03/04/15 03:22 PM
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I have photos of my tag on three separate computers and hosted sites as well as a pencil rubbing at work and at home....I'd say I've got the bases covered.
Dave
You could get them "Tat'ed" for further "safe keeping" and easy reference
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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03/04/15 03:38 PM
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I've had the car for 10 years now and I see all the points.
I agree that a repopped tag should be clearly defined as such.
Most of us can tell the difference anyways and just as stated if the tag is stolen then it becomes a serious problem because no one believes it and the car is called into question....fake tag doing the same of course.
I have pics of the tag in the safe with the broadcast sheet so I think I'll just keep plugging along for another 10 years.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: srt]
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03/04/15 05:56 PM
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..... The only consolation that came from my deal was the crook lost his shirt when he sold the car.
then there is the issue of a car being created and it's (fake) history perpetuated.
As posted above, how about a color copy of the original FT with the car somewhere for display purposes. Then, instead of your FT or a repop, you've got a custom tag that reads:
"My original tag is safe at home under lock and key."
- Wade
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: DPelletier]
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03/04/15 06:59 PM
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The Illinois Sec. of State investigators showed up at the well known Northern Ill. Resto shop where my Superbird was.
Owner of shop calls me up and says "where is your dash vin plate"?
I said you have it, your boys removed it when the dash frame was repainted and the dash pad was sent out to Just Dash's.
I got in my truck and rushed over. After turning the place upside down we found the vin plate where the owner had put it months ago.
Sec. Of States people left happy.
I pulled my car shortly thereafter.
Owner never learned, as this sort of stuff kept on happening with other customers cars. Titles/B.sheets/fender tags were always being misplaced.
Place went out of business and this was one of many reasons.
Beware of this stupidity and never let it happen to you. Only trust yourself with anything even remotely important or irreplaceable.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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03/04/15 07:21 PM
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I have photos of my tag on three separate computers and hosted sites as well as a pencil rubbing at work and at home....I'd say I've got the bases covered.
Dave
You could get them "Tat'ed" for further "safe keeping" and easy reference
Good idea Mike but for added safety I went a step further and have placed a pencil rubbing of my tag in between the foils of my tin foil hat...
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