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Re: Front End Recommendations - Stock K [Re: Pale_Roader] #1676344
10/17/14 10:10 PM
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I'm about halfway there with steering box gussets. They're thin [0.063"], also 4130 plate I had around. I think they'll be sufficient.








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Re: Front End Recommendations - Stock K [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #1676345
10/17/14 11:49 PM
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Awesome! More K-member pics please!
I need to do that as well when I pull out my engine


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Re: Front End Recommendations - Stock K [Re: Pale_Roader] #1676346
10/18/14 11:55 PM
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For the T bars, you need more than .9". What is "right" is application dependent and heavily debated. I like my 1" bars. 1.1" sounds good also and needs high end shocks to control. Budget?






Why would stiffer T-bars need better shocks? I know everything should always have the best shock in the budget, but is there an actual need for a superior shock if the front spring rate is serious?

So far my 70 Challenger's budget is looking like VERY serious T-bars (best available) and not much better than stock range shocks. We cant all afford Bilsteins. I NEED to buy T-bars (mine are 6-cyl), and i'm not buying them twice. I'll upgrade shocks down the road when funds allow.




Really stiff bars without high end shocks may be herky-jerky. Unpleasant ride and compromised handling. The lower end shocks (like my KYB's) cannot effectively control the high spring rate.

Re: Front End Recommendations - Stock K [Re: ahy] #1676347
10/19/14 12:18 AM
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Shock rates and spring rates need to be matched. KYB's are good for maybe .92" A body bars.


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Re: Front End Recommendations - Stock K [Re: Supercuda] #1676348
10/19/14 02:05 AM
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Shock rates and spring rates need to be matched. KYB's are good for maybe .92" A body bars.




Correct... the behavior of the system is determined by the dampening ratio, which is a function of spring rate and the shock rate. To maintain the same dynamic response the shock rate has to be increased to match the spring. If you increase the spring without increasing the shock rate the car will tend to be under damped and it will oscillate because the spring is overpowering the shock.

-Michael


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Re: Front End Recommendations - Stock K [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #1676349
10/19/14 09:41 AM
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I hope you are taking this advice-

You need to turn up the heat[current]!!!. Do not be afraid to sink some heat into those welds. Those are not the nicest welds. I am skeptical that you are wearing the necessary safety equipment - welding respirator, welding hat, safety glasses, welding jacket & gloves - because welding a k frame creates a lot of sparks, smoke and heat. The smoke is toxic.

Weld everything that has a seam even where it was welded before. Esp where the steering box mounts. You missed a spot in one of the pics.



Re: Front End Recommendations - Stock K [Re: ThermoQuad] #1676350
10/19/14 06:21 PM
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I hope you are taking this advice-

You need to turn up the heat[current]!!!. Do not be afraid to sink some heat into those welds. Those are not the nicest welds. I am skeptical that you are wearing the necessary safety equipment - welding respirator, welding hat, safety glasses, welding jacket & gloves - because welding a k frame creates a lot of sparks, smoke and heat. The smoke is toxic.

Weld everything that has a seam even where it was welded before. Esp where the steering box mounts. You missed a spot in one of the pics.







And I would add, those dimpled holes are best located in the areas of the lowest stress ( ie normally the geometric local plane center) to have the best bang for buck, and that smaller center located dimple doesn't look to be adhering to that theory. But I can't tell if you added it, enlarged it or just dimpled an existing hole.


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Re: Front End Recommendations - Stock K [Re: jcc] #1676351
10/19/14 06:29 PM
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.... and that smaller center located dimple doesn't look to be adhering to that theory. But I can't tell if you added it, enlarged it or just dimpled an existing hole.





Yep.

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