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Plastic Parts Glu #167435 12/14/08 12:09 PM 12/14/08 12:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa. 7 71vert340 OP mopar
71vert340 OP mopar 7 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa.	What is the best glue to use on hard plastic dash trim? I need to glue a piece back on to the dash piece. What have you found to be the best way to repair? Thanks Terry

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: 71vert340] #167436 12/14/08 12:12 PM 12/14/08 12:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 70,126 Here DirectSubjection Tacohead. The First and Only
DirectSubjection Tacohead. The First and Only Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 70,126 Here	If it can be adhered from the back where it won't be seen, I use clear silicone adhesive (aquarium stuff). Will stick anything to anything, holds thru all temps, and can possible be removed if need be in the future. Ride eternal, shiny and chrome

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: DirectSubjection] #167437 12/14/08 12:35 PM 12/14/08 12:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	What year and model car, what part exactly? Take a good picture of the part and post it, different plastics require different adhesives or bonding agents

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: 71vert340] #167438 12/14/08 12:51 PM 12/14/08 12:51 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 220 Bellville, Mi. T tscuda enthusiast
tscuda enthusiast T Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 220 Bellville, Mi.	3M makes a glue for abs plastic.

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: 71vert340] #167439 12/14/08 12:57 PM 12/14/08 12:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK) Apply it on both sides of the broken plastic parts and gently press the two pieces together. It will literally melt the parts together and be as strong as if they had never been damaged.

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: ECS] #167440 12/14/08 01:01 PM 12/14/08 01:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Dave's right............If it's ABS, we still don't have a positive ID on what's being repaired here.

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #167441 12/14/08 01:01 PM 12/14/08 01:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington	Quote: What year and model car, what part exactly? Take a good picture of the part and post it, different plastics require different adhesives or bonding agents Exactly, there are MANY different types of plastic. Polyethylene is one of the most difficult (like windshield washer bottle plastic), Styrene (like car models) is easy, ABS will only respond to certain chemicals. Totally depends on the plastic involved.

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #167442 12/14/08 01:25 PM 12/14/08 01:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,501 Chicago, Illinois Devil I Live Here
Devil I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,501 Chicago, Illinois	I used PC-7. It made it rock hard the repair, and was easily sandable. Ryan

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: 71vert340] #167443 12/14/08 04:02 PM 12/14/08 04:02 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,872 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,872 Ontario, Canada	Chances are that if its a dash piece its either ABS or PVC - not polyethylene. Either ABS or PVC can have parts attached using crazy glue and baking soda. Glue the pieces with crazy glue (you don't have to wait for them to set). Put a small bit of baking soda around the break then add crazy glue so that it soaks into the powder. The powder should turn from white to almost clear if the glue soaks in properly. Keep this up till you're happy with the buildup. It can be drilled, tapped, sanded, painted etc. and will yeild a virtually indestuctable joint. The baking soda actually reacts with the crazy glue so you may see a bit of smoke. You can get ABS or PVC cement in the plumbing section of any hardware store but the above method will outperform either. If something doesn't "harden" its not a glue, silcone is a sealant - not a glue

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: 71vert340] #167444 12/14/08 06:29 PM 12/14/08 06:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa. 7 71vert340 OP mopar
71vert340 OP mopar 7 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa.	Sorry I forgot to mention the part . The plastic piece below the heater controls on a Challenger dash. It's the lower dash piece and the other side covers the lower dash below the radio. I also found a crack in an inside front winshield pillar piece. Thanks for the responses. This is for a daily driver or I'd buy new pieces. Terry

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: 71vert340] #167445 12/14/08 06:58 PM 12/14/08 06:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 70,126 Here DirectSubjection Tacohead. The First and Only
DirectSubjection Tacohead. The First and Only Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 70,126 Here	My bad - I wasn't thinking crack repair, I was thinking something like an emblem had come loose and needed to be secured back up in place. Ride eternal, shiny and chrome

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: 71vert340] #167446 12/14/08 07:21 PM 12/14/08 07:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	That is ABS then. Daves fix with MEK should work but be careful and practice on a junk part first, it can also destroy the part. ABS can typically be glued with an adhesive that is made for styrene (which is the "S" componant of ABS). Home Depot has a nice selection of epoxy products that should do the job.

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: 71vert340] #167447 12/14/08 09:46 PM 12/14/08 09:46 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 201 Rome, Ga S sbhpcb enthusiast
sbhpcb enthusiast S Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 201 Rome, Ga	I have been looking at PLASTEX You can actually make missing parts? Check it out plastex.com I think.

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: sbhpcb] #167448 12/15/08 06:53 AM 12/15/08 06:53 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 520 Virginia L larry4406 mopar
larry4406 mopar L Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 520 Virginia	slightly off topic, but can someone put together a list of the various plastic items and their materials used on the e-bodies and the recommeded glue/repair technique of each? This could then be archived.

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #167449 12/15/08 09:41 AM 12/15/08 09:41 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,047 Arizona 6 68CoronetRT super stock
68CoronetRT super stock 6 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,047 Arizona	Quote: That is ABS then. Daves fix with MEK should work but be careful and practice on a junk part first, it can also destroy the part. ABS can typically be glued with an adhesive that is made for styrene (which is the "S" componant of ABS). Home Depot has a nice selection of epoxy products that should do the job. Is there an easy and quick way to tell what type of plastic you are looking at or do you have to learn this by experience?

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: 68CoronetRT] #167450 12/15/08 10:17 AM 12/15/08 10:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT C CJK440 master
CJK440 master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT	Quote: Quote: That is ABS then. Daves fix with MEK should work but be careful and practice on a junk part first, it can also destroy the part. ABS can typically be glued with an adhesive that is made for styrene (which is the "S" componant of ABS). Home Depot has a nice selection of epoxy products that should do the job. Is there an easy and quick way to tell what type of plastic you are looking at or do you have to learn this by experience? Theres generaly 2 kinds on our cars. ABS and Polypropylene. ABS is more brittle and "harder" than PP. Cluster bezels, grilles and most dash parts are ABS. Chances are, if you are trying to fix a crack in it, its ABS. The best way to fix it is using a solvent type "glue" to soften the ABS and let it weld itself together. It also works best for clean breaks that nest together tightly. Polypro is used on ebody door panels and kick panels. Its very durable and seems a little gummy or waxy compared to ABS. its also very chemical resistant hense the reason its difficult to repair and paint. 2017 Contusion Blue Challenger T/A 392 M6 "BLKNBLU"

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: CJK440] #167451 12/15/08 01:11 PM 12/15/08 01:11 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,872 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,872 Ontario, Canada	Actually most parts will be ABS or Polyethylene. Regardless, the above comment is correct regarding gluing. ABS is rigid and prone to cracking or breaking if bent, etc. ABS molds very well and so is used on decorative pieces that require a fine finish. It will accept vacuum plating and can easily be painted. Polyethylene is much more flexible and durable. Subsequently its used for things like scuff plates or kick panels. It too can be repaired using the proper adhesives. It will take paint with a light scuffing but paint won't bite or adhere like it does to ABS.

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: Stanton] #167452 12/15/08 02:35 PM 12/15/08 02:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,047 Arizona 6 68CoronetRT super stock
68CoronetRT super stock 6 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,047 Arizona	Thanks. The reason I ask is because the plastic handle on my turn signal lever is cracked in two. I need to get it repaired if possible and from what you're saying it will be ABS. Should I try the MEK method on it? The break is clean and fits together nicely.

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: 68CoronetRT] #167453 12/15/08 02:36 PM 12/15/08 02:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I'll bet your TS handle is niether Polypropylene or ABS, it's more likely either Nylon or Butyrate. If you have one you can spare a burn test could be used to figure it out.

Re: Plastic Parts Glu [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #167454 12/15/08 05:53 PM 12/15/08 05:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,047 Arizona 6 68CoronetRT super stock
68CoronetRT super stock 6 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,047 Arizona	No spares. Mine was fine until I was moving some stuff around on the shelf and it fell.

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