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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: camastomcat]
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09/18/14 06:00 PM
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It seems there are several on here that know how to do it better, cheaper, and go faster than all you folks that do it for a living. Oh....and we all know you engine builders make high 6 figure incomes for 20 hour weeks. Oh...and you also find gold bars around your house. So why is it that us racers aren't able to buy a quality aluminum block for $3000, use stock 40 year old blocks for 1000+ HP and 300 runs and 1000's of street miles? I remember when this was a much more informative forum, now it's best to look for and post few parts. But let the bashing begin, because I'm sure you've all done it, and this why we're all stuck with ICH.
Did someone forget their meds this morning ? Or did you blow up another engine ??
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: camastomcat]
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09/18/14 06:08 PM
09/18/14 06:08 PM
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It seems there are several on here that know how to do it better, cheaper, and go faster than all you folks that do it for a living.
I am an avid lurker because I love mopars but don't "race" in your sense. Everyone is an expert because all the experts give away their secrets in every post.
Transmission problem? put in a powerglide or turbo 400
Camshaft? call a vendor and get it custom ground because an off the shelf will never do in your mild resto
Engine Rebuild? buy at least 2 aftermarket blocks, because an RB can't handle more then 35hp
How much power does the engine have? wallace calculator is the bible even though racing setups can severely hurt time and mph. (my 440 makes 19.1hp because it takes me 6 seconds to do 200ft)
Dyno's and flow benches are garbage
anything not made in 'MERICA is terrible and may explode
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
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09/18/14 06:39 PM
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It seems there are several on here that know how to do it better, cheaper, and go faster than all you folks that do it for a living. Oh....and we all know you engine builders make high 6 figure incomes for 20 hour weeks. Oh...and you also find gold bars around your house. So why is it that us racers aren't able to buy a quality aluminum block for $3000, use stock 40 year old blocks for 1000+ HP and 300 runs and 1000's of street miles? I remember when this was a much more informative forum, now it's best to look for and post few parts. But let the bashing begin, because I'm sure you've all done it, and this why we're all stuck with ICH.
Did someone forget their meds this morning ? Or did you blow up another engine ??
Med's are fine princess. Maybe someday even you will build something, then again, it's lot's easier to be a genius on a keyboard.
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: camastomcat]
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09/18/14 09:45 PM
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It seems there are several on here that know how to do it better, cheaper, and go faster than all you folks that do it for a living. Oh....and we all know you engine builders make high 6 figure incomes for 20 hour weeks. Oh...and you also find gold bars around your house. So why is it that us racers aren't able to buy a quality aluminum block for $3000, use stock 40 year old blocks for 1000+ HP and 300 runs and 1000's of street miles? I remember when this was a much more informative forum, now it's best to look for and post few parts. But let the bashing begin, because I'm sure you've all done it, and this why we're all stuck with ICH.
I'm running a stock magnum block, you prolly wanna shoot me in the face with a rocket launcher 
2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads 1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel. motor; 10.258 @ 132.78 200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69 racemagnum
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: camastomcat]
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09/18/14 11:35 PM
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It seems there are several on here that know how to do it better, cheaper, and go faster than all you folks that do it for a living. Oh....and we all know you engine builders make high 6 figure incomes for 20 hour weeks. Oh...and you also find gold bars around your house. So why is it that us racers aren't able to buy a quality aluminum block for $3000, use stock 40 year old blocks for 1000+ HP and 300 runs and 1000's of street miles? I remember when this was a much more informative forum, now it's best to look for and post few parts. But let the bashing begin, because I'm sure you've all done it, and this why we're all stuck with ICH.
Did some one poke the gerbil? Shouldn't ought to poke the gerbil.
Hey Tom.
I'll try and call you tomorrow.
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: madscientist]
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09/19/14 12:20 AM
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I have built Mopar engines every day for over 25 years--that means a lot of them. Some wonders --that won championships and some turds that well...were just that but...98% were just fine , however I am always surprised when one I built 7 years ago-- finally gives up at the race track- and I get a call --'what am I going to do about it?" then..a dear friend that has built engines for over 40 years says to me If they can't afford to blow one up every now and then NO matter who or what was at fault --then...this ain't the hobby for them. It is tougher every day that passes to justify doing more--with parts quality what it is and budgets way less than it really takes to cover all the bases When I really think it over --I know we were better off sticking a 509 cam in a junk yard 440 stuffing that into a $700 Duster and having FUN. Way better than where we are now with a $15K build being pretty normal. I sinned and built myself a 350 small block Chevy for my Nostalgia dragster--a nice 200 inch old school looking fun machine--well after doing all that "sinning" without doing all that much spending I can say that it is the best bang for the buck since those .509 in a old 440 days Bash if you must --I do not care but I am racing--going fast as I need to--and doing it on the cheap which... Makes it FUN AGAIN!!! and if it blows all to pieces --well..it was just a friggin SBC--who gives a damn. 
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
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09/19/14 12:24 AM
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It seems there are several on here that know how to do it better, cheaper, and go faster than all you folks that do it for a living.
I am an avid lurker because I love mopars but don't "race" in your sense. Everyone is an expert because all the experts give away their secrets in every post.
Transmission problem? put in a powerglide or turbo 400
Camshaft? call a vendor and get it custom ground because an off the shelf will never do in your mild resto
Engine Rebuild? buy at least 2 aftermarket blocks, because an RB can't handle more then 35hp
How much power does the engine have? wallace calculator is the bible even though racing setups can severely hurt time and mph. (my 440 makes 19.1hp because it takes me 6 seconds to do 200ft)
Dyno's and flow benches are garbage
anything not made in 'MERICA is terrible and may explode
And we won't even talk about things made in Canada........... 
Your sweeping generalizations are very nearly amusing , and have spent their worth trying to get there.
I have gotten some great advice and tips here.
Bought and sold a few parts too.
Made a couple friends too , and have even met a few of them.
A lot of the advice you poke at has a foundation in truth , but that seems to be an issue.
I don't get that.
Oh..........yeah. 9" Ford.
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: camastomcat]
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09/19/14 12:24 AM
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I would love to respond to this, but I am at a loss where to even start....I think I better wait a day or two...
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: tubtar]
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09/19/14 01:31 AM
09/19/14 01:31 AM
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And we won't even talk about things made in Canada...........
Your sweeping generalizations are very nearly amusing , and have spent their worth trying to get there.
I have gotten some great advice and tips here.
Bought and sold a few parts too.
Made a couple friends too , and have even met a few of them.
A lot of the advice you poke at has a foundation in truth , but that seems to be an issue.
I don't get that.
Oh..........yeah. 9" Ford.
people complain about the price of parts now, it would be four times as much if we made things in Canada plus they would read Made in C.. and throw it away.
I completely forgot about the Ford 9", the solution to every diff related problem (except pinion angle)
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: camastomcat]
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09/19/14 02:56 AM
09/19/14 02:56 AM
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I'm not saying that stock blocks don't have their place, or 509 cams, or Chinese parts. A person should just not expect these to hold up to twice the power they were intended to make. And aluminum costs and is worth money, even scrap aluminum as I found out. No gerbil here Tim, but call me tomorrow and we'll talk. Oh......and what moron really thinks "prolly" is a word. If you guys that type this word think it's funny, it is that someone over the age of 3 would type it.
Hey what is wrong with "prolly" on an internet forum discussion??
I was "probably" typing fast and decided to use the word "prolly" which I do use a lot. You should here these 20 something techs I got working for me, try to understand that language 
2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads 1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel. motor; 10.258 @ 132.78 200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69 racemagnum
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
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09/19/14 08:53 AM
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If you guys that type this word think it's funny, it is that someone over the age of 3 would type it. Sorta funny like the OPs first comments. Since you lit the fire speak your mind, spill your guts,get an enima, whatever but don't put the bag of dogcrap on the porch and don't light it.
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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09/19/14 09:11 AM
09/19/14 09:11 AM
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I would love to respond to this, but I am at a loss where to even start....I think I better wait a day or two...
Good thinking --I just jumped in
This proves Wedge is smarter than I am
No wait...he is an engine builder too 
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