Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: DoctorDiff] #1671552
09/16/14 04:31 AM
09/16/14 04:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

5 x 4.5" bolt pattern A-body conversion axles increase the track 1/4" per side.

Rear rotors increase the track an additional 1/8" per side, for a total assembly width of 58.175".




Thanks... I've got to work on my measuring. But doesn't 57.125 + 2(.250) + 2(.125) = 57.875"? Either I'm really tired, the rear axle info on the tech section is wrong, or I messed up somewhere on my rear end or brake setup.

I just looked at some pictures of my tape measure before I had to leave for the night and it seems to be closer to 58.175" My approximation was just bad looking at the tape measure at a funky angle. I'll post them tomorrow afternoon.

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671553
09/16/14 08:20 PM
09/16/14 08:20 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 380
Escondido CA USA
Tomswheels Offline
enthusiast
Tomswheels  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 380
Escondido CA USA
Samy, I have 4 different sets of 18x9, 18x10, and 19x10.5 wheels with +20 to +50 offsets down here in Escondido if you want to try them before you buy. I can fit the 18x10 with a 285 on the rear of my Valiant if you get the offset perfect. Springs do not need to be re-located. I bought all my wheels thru Americanmuscle.com for $75-$99 each on sale, so don't think this Craigslist deal is the only cost effective way.

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: Tomswheels] #1671554
09/16/14 08:28 PM
09/16/14 08:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

Samy, I have 4 different sets of 18x9, 18x10, and 19x10.5 wheels with +20 to +50 offsets down here in Escondido if you want to try them before you buy. I can fit the 18x10 with a 285 on the rear of my Valiant if you get the offset perfect. Springs do not need to be re-located. I bought all my wheels thru Americanmuscle.com for $75-$99 each on sale, so don't think this Craigslist deal is the only cost effective way.




If I'm not doing anything Saturday morning, I may be able to drive down for a little bit. I'd have to borrow them for a week or two though as the car is on jack stands.

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671555
09/16/14 09:20 PM
09/16/14 09:20 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 380
Escondido CA USA
Tomswheels Offline
enthusiast
Tomswheels  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 380
Escondido CA USA
I have an 18x9 with a 265/35/18 mounted I could loan you, but the rest are either on the cars (69 Cuda and 67 Valiant) or needed for racing. It would be easier if you could drive the Dart down once you get it back together and we could take stuff on and off as needed... By the way, the 18x9 with a 265 or 275/35/18 can work in front, with some fender massaging....

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: Tomswheels] #1671556
09/16/14 11:45 PM
09/16/14 11:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

I have an 18x9 with a 265/35/18 mounted I could loan you, but the rest are either on the cars (69 Cuda and 67 Valiant) or needed for racing. It would be easier if you could drive the Dart down once you get it back together and we could take stuff on and off as needed... By the way, the 18x9 with a 265 or 275/35/18 can work in front, with some fender massaging....




I'm just trying to find a set of wheels I can get by with at the moment for either a mock up or temporary driving.

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671557
09/17/14 12:21 AM
09/17/14 12:21 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
72Swinger Offline
master
72Swinger  Offline
master

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
Just a suggestion, eBay item# 201104894475


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: 72Swinger] #1671558
09/17/14 12:43 AM
09/17/14 12:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

Just a suggestion, eBay item# 201104894475




I actually really like the look and they're only about 10 miles away from me. But they sure are pricey... About $2500 after taxes. I'd definitely need a spacer for the rear.

If a standard rear end is 57.125" and mine is 58.175", then that means the rears will need to have ~13mm offset to be center, correct?

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671559
09/17/14 12:47 AM
09/17/14 12:47 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
72Swinger Offline
master
72Swinger  Offline
master

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
That price is for all 4.


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: 72Swinger] #1671560
09/17/14 12:56 AM
09/17/14 12:56 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

That price is for all 4.




If it is, he isn't very clear about it.

8272557-Untitled.png (181 downloads)
Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671561
09/17/14 01:03 AM
09/17/14 01:03 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
72Swinger Offline
master
72Swinger  Offline
master

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
Look at the first page it says Quantity 4.


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: 72Swinger] #1671562
09/17/14 01:09 AM
09/17/14 01:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

Look at the first page it says Quantity 4.




Yeah, I see it now. Still not clear if it's 1 or 4 wheels. I guess I'd have to give them a call tomorrow. However, with this wheel I'd probably need something like a 0.750-0.900" spacer for the rear assuming the my current brake setup sits about a touch more than half an inch on both sides than stock. 34 - 13 mm = 21 mm, ~0.820". I only have 2" studs. Isn't that getting thick?

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671563
09/17/14 01:29 AM
09/17/14 01:29 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Got a halfway decent idea of taking the spare tire from my Scion and throwing it on the rear of the Dart. Bolt patterns are the same, but it's a shallow 16" wheel so the face of the caliper was bumping against the inner wheel.

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671564
09/17/14 01:33 AM
09/17/14 01:33 AM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 380
Escondido CA USA
Tomswheels Offline
enthusiast
Tomswheels  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 380
Escondido CA USA
Samy, do your want a set for Autocross?

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671565
09/17/14 01:36 AM
09/17/14 01:36 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
72Swinger Offline
master
72Swinger  Offline
master

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
I'm thinking it would need 1/2" tops. I believe your rear studs thread into the axle, swapping studs on the rear, don't sweat it.


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: Tomswheels] #1671566
09/17/14 03:05 AM
09/17/14 03:05 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

Samy, do your want a set for Autocross?




I'd like to find a set I can use for all purposes. Something I can take to the autocross, road course, or general cruising around town or the freeway. When/if I get more serious about racing the car I'll probably get two sets of wheels or just move on to track wheels.

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671567
09/17/14 11:59 AM
09/17/14 11:59 AM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 380
Escondido CA USA
Tomswheels Offline
enthusiast
Tomswheels  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 380
Escondido CA USA
Just know that 98% of street tires won't hold up well (or do well) at the track. I have a full set of 18x9 stealth black FR500 wheels with a +24/+30 offset and 265/275/35/18 Falken RT615Ks with about 1/2 tread left for $650 if that would help. They are great for track, 200 treadwear, firm ride on the street.

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: Tomswheels] #1671568
09/17/14 10:45 PM
09/17/14 10:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
The two tires I've been looking at the most is the Dunlop ZII's and the Hancook RS-23.

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671569
09/17/14 11:54 PM
09/17/14 11:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 380
Escondido CA USA
Tomswheels Offline
enthusiast
Tomswheels  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 380
Escondido CA USA
Those are great choices, they are in the process now of replacing the Dunlop ZII with the ZII Star Spec...

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: Tomswheels] #1671570
09/18/14 12:00 AM
09/18/14 12:00 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

Those are great choices, they are in the process now of replacing the Dunlop ZII with the ZII Star Spec...




They're already out... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+ZII+Star+Spec

Re: 275 Series Tires, A-bodies, and Offset Shackles [Re: MuuMuu101] #1671571
09/18/14 12:46 AM
09/18/14 12:46 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
So what size offset do you think I'd need front and back. Due to the small wheel wells, I'll constrict myself to 245/40/18's for now (8-9.5" wide wheel). For the fronts, I was told an 18mm to 40mm offset should work. Using the same tire size and offset, I don't see how wheel width would matter. All it would do is stretch or bulge the sidewalls.

Just surfing CL these are some of the wheel specs I found that might work with or without spacers...

1) XXR wheels
Bolt Pattern: 5 x 4.5" / 5 x 100mm
Hub Centerbore: Unknown
Width: 8.5"
Offset: 35 mm

Not a fan of the duel bolt pattern. Very similar (may even be the same) to the wheels 72BBSwinger posted above. I haven't been able to contact them today. I was busy.

2) Unknown make or Varrstoen ES2 (found two different wheels)
Bolt Pattern: 5 x 4.5"
Hub Centerbore: 73.1mm
Width: 9.5"
Offset: 22 mm

Based off of my research, I feel like I could get away with this combo without or with very skinny spacers front and rear. Plus the width may end up helping me out if I choose to go wider tire in the future. Both wheels are built to clear big brakes.

3) Enkei RP01
Bolt Pattern: 5 x 4.5"
Hub Centerbore: Unknown (could find them if I searched hard enough)
Width: 9"
Offset: 42 mm

Would definitely need spacers.

I kind of like option two as they look nice and may seem to fit both the front and rear with little work. All wheels are $650-800 w/out tires. The ES2's come with NT05 245/40/18's for an extra $500 if I want them. The Enkei's are about $1400 for wheels and tires but they're on RS-23 265/35/18.

Page 2 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1